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Old 10-17-2016, 12:30 PM   #1
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It really was a great speech.
Spence, here is another great speech by Michelle Obama. From 2008. In this great speech, Michelle says that Hilary is unfit to be POTUS, because if you can't control your own house, you can't manage the White House.



Now, all of a sudden, Michelle is saying the opposite.

Spence, which is it? Was Michelle full of crap then, or is she full of crap now? Because I don't see how even you could claim she was right both times.

I await your thoughtful answer.
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Old 10-17-2016, 12:42 PM   #2
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Spence, here is another great speech by Michelle Obama. From 2008. In this great speech, Michelle says that Hilary is unfit to be POTUS, because if you can't control your own house, you can't manage the White House.



Now, all of a sudden, Michelle is saying the opposite.

Spence, which is it? Was Michelle full of crap then, or is she full of crap now? Because I don't see how even you could claim she was right both times.

I await your thoughtful answer.
Its called the Trump effect .. is it really so shocking

'better the devil you know than the devil you don't',
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Old 10-17-2016, 01:43 PM   #3
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'better the devil you know than the devil you don't',
Not in this case
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She would rather have the worst possible example of a Democrat liar in office than ANY Republican.

Each candidate has had some problems brought to the limelight, and being true to their form, the Democrats want to tear the opposition to pieces while canonizing their own candidate.

Said before and I'll say it again:
This year we will be voting for the lesser of two evils.

One difference is that one wants to close our borders (to illegal aliens) and one wants to open them up (to everyone, from everywhere, and "persuade" them to vote for their party)

I am a legend in my own mind!
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Old 10-17-2016, 01:46 PM   #5
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She would rather have the worst possible example of a Democrat liar in office than ANY Republican.
Apparently, the D liar lies a heck of a lot less then the R liar:

For instance, the fact-checking website PolitiFact found that of the statements by Hillary Clinton that it checked, 22 percent were completely “true” and another 28 percent were “mostly true.”
But Trump is another animal. There is no true equivalency between Trump and Clinton, or between Trump and any other politician, for that matter. Only 4 percent of Trump’s statements that PolitiFact checked were rated as completely “true” and only another 11 percent were even rated as “mostly true.” Seventy percent of Trump’s statements that the site checked were rated as “mostly false,” “false” or “pants on fire,” the site’s worse rating.

PolitiFact has examined 258 Trump statements and 255 Clinton statements and classified them on a scale ranging from “True” to “Pants on Fire.” One might quibble with some of the judgments, but they’re overwhelmingly in the ballpark. And they show two candidates living in different moral universes when it comes to truth-telling. Mr. Trump had 48 Pants on Fire ratings, Mrs. Clinton just six; the G.O.P. nominee had 89 False ratings, the Democrat 27.
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PolitiFacts?Really?

If y'all believe that crap we really are doomed.
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Old 10-17-2016, 02:12 PM   #7
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PolitiFacts?Really?

If y'all believe that crap we really are doomed.
So come up with a better source.

I listen to Trump lie out and out daily and say to myself who believes his crap.
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Old 10-17-2016, 03:34 PM   #8
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So come up with a better source.

I listen to Trump lie out and out daily and say to myself who believes his crap.
REALLY?But you'll believe Poltifacts and Shrillary with her daily/yearly/decades long string of lies?

Like I said if YOU believe that CRAP we're all doomed.
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Old 10-17-2016, 02:00 PM   #9
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Apparently, the D liar lies a heck of a lot less then the R liar:

For instance, the fact-checking website PolitiFact found that of the statements by Hillary Clinton that it checked, 22 percent were completely “true” and another 28 percent were “mostly true.”
But Trump is another animal. There is no true equivalency between Trump and Clinton, or between Trump and any other politician, for that matter. Only 4 percent of Trump’s statements that PolitiFact checked were rated as completely “true” and only another 11 percent were even rated as “mostly true.” Seventy percent of Trump’s statements that the site checked were rated as “mostly false,” “false” or “pants on fire,” the site’s worse rating.

PolitiFact has examined 258 Trump statements and 255 Clinton statements and classified them on a scale ranging from “True” to “Pants on Fire.” One might quibble with some of the judgments, but they’re overwhelmingly in the ballpark. And they show two candidates living in different moral universes when it comes to truth-telling. Mr. Trump had 48 Pants on Fire ratings, Mrs. Clinton just six; the G.O.P. nominee had 89 False ratings, the Democrat 27.
And it's not possible that they picked the statements of each to get the result they wanted.

Paul, how about treatment of women? Please tell me, specifically, what is wrong with my following opinion:

The party that worships at the feet of the Clintons and the Kennedys, is in no position to wag their fingers at the way anyone else treats women.

Why is that not a valid statement, exactly?
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Old 10-17-2016, 02:17 PM   #10
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For instance, the fact-checking website PolitiFact found that of the statements by Hillary Clinton that it checked, 22 percent were completely “true” and another 28 percent were “mostly true.”
So where did the other 50% go? Glad to see America is OK with someone who's trustworthiness is basically a "Coin Toss"

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So where did the other 50% go? Glad to see America is OK with someone who's trustworthiness is basically a "Coin Toss"
http://www.politifact.com/personalit...llary-clinton/

http://www.politifact.com/personalities/donald-trump/
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That really didn't change what I stated...

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