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01-18-2022, 09:54 AM
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American voters logic Hard at work 81 million bounce Trump suddenly want to be conservatives
I said it before American voters are stupid and impatient. Their like a battered person They demand change get away ! But can’t handle a normal relationship if they don’t see instant results they go back to the abusive relationship Americans seem to love the Drama so it starts all over again.
Seems you went with just the headline
Then created your own narrative
1 poll is not a trend . But there’s more in the poll
In the first quarter of 2021, 49% of U.S. adults identified as Democrats or leaned Democratic versus 40% who sided with Republicans, according to Gallup,
By the fourth quarter of 2021, 47% of respondents identified as Republicans while only 42% said they were Democrats.
Republicans so far hold a narrow advantage on the generic congressional ballot, which broadly asks people whether they’d support the GOP or Democratic candidate. As of January 16, 42.4% of respondents said they’d back Republicans versus 41.8% supporting Democrats, according to an aggregate of polls compiled by
Most Americans identified as Independents
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So to sum up your post...
First, you said Americans are only shifting right because they are stupid.
Then, you immediately said they aren't really shifting right, because 1 poll isn't a trend (which is true, but we can look at a dozen polls plus w3hat happened in VA and in NJ, and that IS a trend).
Then, you said I misinterpreted the poll.
Then, you explained in detail, why the poll said exactly what I claimed that it said.
Between the 2 parties, Gallup poll shows republicans with the largest lead over democrats, since 1995.
"Most Americans identified as Independents"
Who are turning off Biden in huge numbers.
I agree most Americans are thoughtless and short-sighted. You know what else? They're not progressively liberal either. They're just not.
Obama got elected, but went too far to the left, which is why his party was absolutely routed by the time he left in 2016.
Biden is taking the party way further to the left than Obama dared try. That's not what America wants.
America wants a Bill Clinton-type democrat, someone right around the center. Unfortunately, it's very unlikely that such a moderate democrat could ever with the party's primary.
Trump was a moderate conservative. That's why people liked his policies. They just did. But they hates Trump personally, which is obviously understandable.
Both parties tend to want radical purists to with their presidential primaries, but that's not what America wants in a POTUS..
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01-18-2022, 10:05 AM
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Trump was a moderate conservative. That's why people liked his policies.
Yet Trump conservatives learned to hate the FBI
keep drinking your Kool aid
MAWA should be the newest GOP HAT MAKING AMERICA WHITE AGAIN
because thats all they are selling
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01-18-2022, 10:06 AM
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Originally Posted by wdmso
MAWA should be the newest GOP HAT MAKING AMERICA WHITE AGAIN
because thats all they are selling
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this is what all the smart people are saying anyway.....
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01-18-2022, 10:33 AM
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Trump was a moderate conservative. That's why people liked his policies.
Yet Trump conservatives learned to hate the FBI
keep drinking your Kool aid
MAWA should be the newest GOP HAT MAKING AMERICA WHITE AGAIN
because thats all they are selling
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when the FBI denies that the recent synagogue hostage situation was partly based in anti semitic, the FBI deserves to lose some credibility.
I think the FBI is the greatest investigative agency on the planet. i also believe it’s being weapon used a little, by the left. i read the emails between Strzok and his mistress. They weren’t really ambiguous. Really only one way to interpret them.
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01-18-2022, 01:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Jim in CT
when the FBI denies that the recent synagogue hostage situation was partly based in anti semitic, the FBI deserves to lose some credibility.
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your a newsmax junky
So the FBI should lose credibility for being Honest and not making stuff up to feed the radical right .... even Lindsey Graham in on the outrage he's on the islamic bandwagon
"We do believe from our engagement with this subject that he was singularly focused on one issue, and it was not specifically related to the Jewish community. But we are continuing to work to find [the] motive," DeSarno said.
More fake right wing outrage
heres a sample comment
There was a time when FBI would inspire trust and confidence now it shows more like Gestapo enforcers of the democrats
Funny conservatives could care less How he a MUSLIM NON citizen Bought a GUN in TEXAS
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01-18-2022, 02:48 PM
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your a newsmax junky
So the FBI should lose credibility for being Honest and not making stuff up to feed the radical right .... even Lindsey Graham in on the outrage he's on the islamic bandwagon
"We do believe from our engagement with this subject that he was singularly focused on one issue, and it was not specifically related to the Jewish community. But we are continuing to work to find [the] motive," DeSarno said.
More fake right wing outrage
heres a sample comment
There was a time when FBI would inspire trust and confidence now it shows more like Gestapo enforcers of the democrats
Funny conservatives could care less How he a MUSLIM NON citizen Bought a GUN in TEXAS
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he picked a synagogue on the sabbath.
either that’s random ( and a real coincidence) or he was targeting jews.
i have never once read or watched newsmax. i don’t like blind, pure, rabid partisan news. that’s your style, not mine.
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01-19-2022, 07:55 AM
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he picked a synagogue on the sabbath.
either that’s random ( and a real coincidence) or he was targeting jews.
i have never once read or watched newsmax. i don’t like blind, pure, rabid partisan news. that’s your style, not mine.
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But we are continuing to work to find [the] motive,"
We know why he went to Texas and it wasn’t just to kill Jews . And the FBI statement reflects that .. because hostage negotiators were talking to him
He had a priority the Afghan womens release … seems killing Jews wasn’t his many reason. Like the statement read. He could have kill Jews in England
more faux outrage from conservatives as an excuse for attacking the FBI
I guess backing the blue doesn’t apply to the FBI
Ok mr Fox News
Again how did a British Muslim citizen buy a Gun in Texas
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01-18-2022, 10:37 AM
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MAWA should be the newest GOP HAT MAKING AMERICA WHITE AGAIN
because thats all they are selling
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if that’s all they’re selling, why are hispanics starting to shift?
and it’s nonsense to say that’s all they’re selling. Trump increased funding to black colleges, championed criminal justice reform, got black unemployment to its all time low, advocates for school
choice.
At Trumps state of the union, when he celebrated lowest black unemployment ever, republicans were dancing in the aisles, democrats sat on their hands, scowling. what does that tell you, wayne?
saying white supremacy is all
they’re selling, makes you look terrified and desperate. and you’re right to feel that way. even you know what’s likely coming in november.
a lot can happen between now and then. but you’re right to feel
terrified right now.
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01-18-2022, 12:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Jim in CT
if that’s all they’re selling, why are hispanics starting to shift?
and it’s nonsense to say that’s all they’re selling. Trump increased funding to black colleges, championed criminal justice reform, got black unemployment to its all time low, advocates for school
choice.
At Trumps state of the union, when he celebrated lowest black unemployment ever, republicans were dancing in the aisles, democrats sat on their hands, scowling. what does that tell you, wayne?
saying white supremacy is all
they’re selling, makes you look terrified and desperate. and you’re right to feel that way. even you know what’s likely coming in november.
a lot can happen between now and then. but you’re right to feel
terrified right now.
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Carried to it's logical conclusion, Republicans should have been dancing in the aisles when the first black president, Barack Obama was elected.
Electing a black president was the beginning, but the thought of a woman president REALLY triggers them
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Lets Go Darwin
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01-18-2022, 12:40 PM
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Carried to it's logical conclusion, Republicans should have been dancing in the aisles when the first black president, Barack Obama was elected.
Electing a black president was the beginning, but the thought of a woman president REALLY triggers them
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republicans were all happy we elected a black. not an inexperienced radical liberal.
that is the stupidest response in the internet today.
you boiled obama down to nothing but skin color. very liberal of you.
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01-18-2022, 12:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Jim in CT
if that’s all they’re selling, why are hispanics starting to shift?
and it’s nonsense to say that’s all they’re selling. Trump increased funding to black colleges, championed criminal justice reform, got black unemployment to its all time low, advocates for school
choice.
At Trumps state of the union, when he celebrated lowest black unemployment ever, republicans were dancing in the aisles, democrats sat on their hands, scowling. what does that tell you, wayne?
saying white supremacy is all
they’re selling, makes you look terrified and desperate. and you’re right to feel that way. even you know what’s likely coming in november.
a lot can happen between now and then. but you’re right to feel
terrified right now.
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black unemployment Again
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01-18-2022, 12:57 PM
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black unemployment Again
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lowest ever recorded.
you desperately try to dismiss it, because you can’t bear to admit how it happened.
i asked why the republicans celebrated it, why the democrats hated it.
Aaaaaaand, you dodged. Shocker!
why did trump celebrate it? why did he increase funding to black colleges, champion criminal
justice reform, advocate for school
choice? those are all things that disproportionately help blacks.
liberals love blacks so much, they want an abortion clinic on every corner in black neighborhoods!!!
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01-18-2022, 12:47 PM
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So to sum up your post...
Then, you explained in detail, why the poll said exactly what I claimed that it said.
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Jim where in the poll was there any reference to the following
Open borders, telling 6 year old white kids that they are guilty for sins from 200 years ago, saying there’s no such thing as male/female, inflation at a 40 year high, saying the answer to crime is less police, 9th month abortions for any reason, men competing against women in physical contests
Just more right wing talking points
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