Striper Talk Striped Bass Fishing, Surfcasting, Boating

     

Left Nav S-B Home Register FAQ Members List S-B on Facebook Arcade WEAX Tides Buoys Calendar Today's Posts Right Nav

Left Container Right Container
 

Go Back   Striper Talk Striped Bass Fishing, Surfcasting, Boating » Striper Chat - Discuss stuff other than fishing ~ The Scuppers and Political talk » The Scuppers

The Scuppers This is a new forum for the not necessarily fishing related topics...

Reply
 
Thread Tools Rate Thread Display Modes
Old 05-01-2009, 09:48 PM   #1
cheferson
Registered User
iTrader: (0)
 
cheferson's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: MA
Posts: 3,630
Mushrooms

A bunch of different mushrooms
Attached Thumbnails
Click image for larger version

Name:	DSC01236.jpg
Views:	129
Size:	38.6 KB
ID:	33598   Click image for larger version

Name:	DSC01233.jpg
Views:	139
Size:	48.9 KB
ID:	33599   Click image for larger version

Name:	DSC01138.jpg
Views:	136
Size:	29.5 KB
ID:	33600  
cheferson is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-01-2009, 09:57 PM   #2
Cool Beans
Registered User
iTrader: (0)
 
Cool Beans's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Posts: 1,044
Whats the one in the middle? I believe I have seen both the others, but not that hairy one.....
Cool Beans is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-01-2009, 10:05 PM   #3
cheferson
Registered User
iTrader: (0)
 
cheferson's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: MA
Posts: 3,630
lions mane
cheferson is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-01-2009, 10:40 PM   #4
JohnnyD
Registered User
iTrader: (0)
 
JohnnyD's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2008
Location: Mansfield, MA
Posts: 5,238
Very nice yellow oysters.

Brown Rice Flour, mixed with vermiculite base? I've done some mushroom growing with very good success.
JohnnyD is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-01-2009, 11:07 PM   #5
cheferson
Registered User
iTrader: (0)
 
cheferson's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: MA
Posts: 3,630
The italian oysters are on paper, the yellow is on coir and coffee grounds, and the lions mane is on supplemented sawdust.
cheferson is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-02-2009, 12:49 AM   #6
JohnnyD
Registered User
iTrader: (0)
 
JohnnyD's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2008
Location: Mansfield, MA
Posts: 5,238
Nice variety. The lions mane can be a pain sometimes.

I was lazy and mostly used brown rice flour or mullet seed.
JohnnyD is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-02-2009, 04:52 AM   #7
Raven
........
iTrader: (0)
 
Raven's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2002
Posts: 22,805
Blog Entries: 1
mullet seed ?

i can tell what your thinkin....about

i love shi take 's .... nice pics Cheferson
Raven is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-02-2009, 06:50 AM   #8
Nebe
Registered User
iTrader: (0)
 
Nebe's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: Libtardia
Posts: 21,557
Nice chef! There's a fungus amung us
Posted from my iPhone/Mobile device
Nebe is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-02-2009, 09:54 AM   #9
cheferson
Registered User
iTrader: (0)
 
cheferson's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: MA
Posts: 3,630
shiitakes will be this fall or next spring
cheferson is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-02-2009, 10:41 AM   #10
JohnnyD
Registered User
iTrader: (0)
 
JohnnyD's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2008
Location: Mansfield, MA
Posts: 5,238
Quote:
Originally Posted by Raven View Post
i can tell what your thinkin....about

i love shi take 's .... nice pics Cheferson
It's the next cheapest thing to brown rice flour and gave me about twice the yield. I only used it for the yellow oysters though, they'd get huge.
JohnnyD is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-02-2009, 11:51 AM   #11
ProfessorM
Uncle Remus
iTrader: (0)
 
ProfessorM's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Lakeville Ma.
Posts: 14,773
very cool

"A beach is a place where a man can feel he's the only soul in the world that's real"
ProfessorM is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-02-2009, 01:41 PM   #12
striprman
Wishin' for fishin'
iTrader: (0)
 
striprman's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: Brockton
Posts: 1,651
Blog Entries: 1
Smile I'm kinda like a mushroom

I'm a fun guy

striprman is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-02-2009, 03:41 PM   #13
Raven
........
iTrader: (0)
 
Raven's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2002
Posts: 22,805
Blog Entries: 1
wha....

Quote:
Originally Posted by JohnnyD View Post
It's the next cheapest thing to brown rice flour and gave me about twice the yield. I only used it for the yellow oysters though, they'd get huge.
i thought you meant Millet and you said mullet
Raven is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-02-2009, 05:25 PM   #14
JohnnyD
Registered User
iTrader: (0)
 
JohnnyD's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2008
Location: Mansfield, MA
Posts: 5,238
Quote:
Originally Posted by Raven View Post
i thought you meant Millet and you said mullet
oi... The keys are too close together.
JohnnyD is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-02-2009, 06:26 PM   #15
5/0
Eels
iTrader: (0)
 
5/0's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: Mansfield,MA.
Posts: 3,322
Quote:
Originally Posted by striprman View Post
I'm a fun guy

Live bait sharp hooks and timing is all you need
5/0 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-02-2009, 07:17 PM   #16
Raven
........
iTrader: (0)
 
Raven's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2002
Posts: 22,805
Blog Entries: 1
noooo

Quote:
Originally Posted by JohnnyD View Post
oi... The keys are too close together.
but your ears are

so eat some shrooms

and expand them outward
Raven is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-03-2009, 12:35 AM   #17
cheferson
Registered User
iTrader: (0)
 
cheferson's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: MA
Posts: 3,630
Quote:
Originally Posted by striprman View Post
I'm a fun guy
Heh, we have a new menu starting monday. The new mushroom pizza is called the fun guy
cheferson is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-03-2009, 10:56 AM   #18
cheferson
Registered User
iTrader: (0)
 
cheferson's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: MA
Posts: 3,630
some more pix
Attached Thumbnails
Click image for larger version

Name:	DSC01238.jpg
Views:	113
Size:	41.7 KB
ID:	33613   Click image for larger version

Name:	DSC01191.jpg
Views:	106
Size:	39.2 KB
ID:	33614   Click image for larger version

Name:	DSC01133.jpg
Views:	113
Size:	43.4 KB
ID:	33615  
cheferson is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-03-2009, 10:59 AM   #19
cheferson
Registered User
iTrader: (0)
 
cheferson's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: MA
Posts: 3,630
Did an experiment with some seaweed from the beach. They grew very quickly on it.
Attached Thumbnails
Click image for larger version

Name:	DSC01165.jpg
Views:	117
Size:	42.5 KB
ID:	33616   Click image for larger version

Name:	DSC01178.jpg
Views:	111
Size:	44.6 KB
ID:	33617  
cheferson is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-03-2009, 11:04 AM   #20
cheferson
Registered User
iTrader: (0)
 
cheferson's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: MA
Posts: 3,630
oyster mushrooms are really amazing. They recently did a study about ridding soil of oil contamination.

From a piece of tissue the size of one tenth of your little fingernail, what we call a clone, cells can be grown exponentially into millions of pounds of mushrooms in as little as several months. More than 10% of the growing medium or "substrate" (straw, sawdust, compost, most agricultural and forest debris) can be converted into a protein- and vitamin-rich food. Not only are these mushrooms nutritious, they have demonstrated abilities in enhancing the human immune system, and they produce a slew of natural antibiotics. Yet it is the residual mycelium in that substrate that holds the greatest potential for ecological rehabilitation.

Mycelia can serve as unparalleled biological filters. When I first moved to my property, I installed an outdoor mushroom bed in a gulch leading to a saltwater beach where clams and oysters were being commercially cultivated. An inspection showed that the outflow of water from my property was jeopardizing the quality of my neighbor's shellfish with the bacteria count close to the legal limit. The following year, after the mushroom beds were colonized with mycelium, the coliform count had decreased to nearly undetectable levels. This led to the term I have coined "mycofiltration", the use of fungal mats as biological filters.

Mycelium produces extracellular enzymes and acids that break down recalcitrant molecules such as lignin and cellulose, the two primary components of woody plants. Lignin peroxidases dismantle the long chains of hydrogen and carbon, converting wood into simpler forms, on the path to decomposition. By circumstance, these same enzymes are superb at breaking apart hydrocarbons, the base structure common to oils, petroleum products, pesticides, PCBs, and many other pollutants.

For the past four years I have been working with Battelle Laboratories, a non-profit foundation, whose mission is to use science to improve environmental health. Battelle is a major player in the bioremediation industry, and widely used by the United States and other governments in finding solutions to toxic wastes. The marine science laboratory of Battelle, Sequim, Washington became interested, as their mandate is to improve the health of the marine ecosystem. Under the stewardship of Dr. Jack Word, we began a series of experiments employing the strains from my mushroom gene library, many of which were secured through collecting specimens while hiking in the old growth forests of the Olympic and Cascade mountains. We now have applied for a patent utilizing mycelial mats for bioremediation, a process we have termed "mycoremediation".

After several years, and redundant experiments to prove to naysayers that our data was valid, we have made some astonishing discoveries. (I am continually bemused that humans "discover" what nature has known all along.) The first significant study showed that a strain of Oyster mushrooms could break down heavy oil. A trial project at a vehicle storage center controlled by the Washington State Dept. of Transportation (WSDOT) enlisted the techniques from several, competing bioremediation groups. The soil was blackened with oil and reeked of aromatic hydrocarbons. We inoculated one berm of soil approximately 8 feet x 30 feet x 3 feet high with mushroom spawn while other technicians employed a variety of methods, ranging from bacteria to chemical agents. After 4 weeks, the tarps were pulled back from each test pile. The first piles employing the other techniques were unremarkable. Then the tarp was pulled from our pile, and gasps of astonishment and laughter welled up from the observers. The hydrocarbon-laden pile was bursting with mushrooms! Oyster mushrooms up to 12 inches in diameter had formed across the pile. Analyses showed that more than 95% of many of the PAH (polycyclic aromatic hydrocarbons) were destroyed, reduced to non-toxic components, and the mushrooms were also free of any petroleum products.

After 8 weeks, the mushrooms had rotted away, and then came another startling revelation. As the mushrooms rotted, flies were attracted. (Sciarid, Phorid and other "fungus gnats" commonly seek out mushrooms, engorged themselves with spores, and spread the spores to other habitats). The flies became a magnet for other insects, which in turn brought in birds. Apparently the birds brought in seeds. Soon ours was an oasis, the only pile teeming with life! We think we have found what is called a "keystone" organism, one that facilitates, cascade of other biological processes that contribute to habitat remediation. Critics, who were in favor of using plants (as in "phytoremediation") and/or bacteria, reluctantly became de facto advocates of our process since the mushrooms opened the door for this natural sequencing
cheferson is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-03-2009, 11:39 AM   #21
striprman
Wishin' for fishin'
iTrader: (0)
 
striprman's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: Brockton
Posts: 1,651
Blog Entries: 1
Question

where do you get your spores ?

ever grow "magic" mushies ?

striprman is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-03-2009, 11:41 AM   #22
Raven
........
iTrader: (0)
 
Raven's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2002
Posts: 22,805
Blog Entries: 1
Thumbs up wondering

if those flies eaten by toads,frogs,birds ect have the mushroom
mycelium in them and thus transport to other areas via their droppings to start the cycle again....

the other thing that i found quite interesting was how not only do mushrooms have anti cancer attributes...

but exposing the gills of shi takes mushrooms to sunshine when drying them made them absorb ten times their original vitamin D
which scientists are now discovering is a much more important vitamin than they thought....and is a body regulator .

Also on your post Cheferson the use of sea weed as a bedding material .... very ineresting not to mention the pollution remediation...

how easy can it get too go out and :seed: an area will spawn to solve the problem.... just awesome
Raven is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-03-2009, 12:03 PM   #23
cheferson
Registered User
iTrader: (0)
 
cheferson's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: MA
Posts: 3,630
There are lots of people selling spores and spawn , just google . Thats cool about the shiitakes and the sun drying.
cheferson is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-04-2009, 09:50 AM   #24
Joe
Registered User
iTrader: (0)
 
Joe's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2001
Location: Rhode Island
Posts: 3,650
Nothing like ten hours of paranoid introspection to get one in touch with their poor self esteem.

Joe is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-04-2009, 11:08 AM   #25
reelecstasy
Boston Anglah
iTrader: (0)
 
reelecstasy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: Sitting on top of the world with my legs hangin free
Posts: 3,322
10? I always found it to be 5-6 at best






Very cool Chef
reelecstasy is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-04-2009, 11:29 AM   #26
Raven
........
iTrader: (0)
 
Raven's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2002
Posts: 22,805
Blog Entries: 1
Arrow jeez..........

they are meant for sunrises and sunsets, outdoors not indoors

----------------------------------------------------------------------
of course i'll never forget when Steve answered the door to find a PIZZA delivery man
that he/we just totally forgot about .....

then Steve, after grabbing and accepting the large Pizza
he completely lost control of it and was trying to balance it again
in the air making it slide right out of the box and it went flying and flopping
on to the floor....
before we even paid for it....

that was the absolute funniest thing i can ever remember......

and that poor Pizza man must of thought he was at a Looney bin
because he had to wait forever for us to stop laughing to get paid
and every time he asked to get paid again
it was even funnier... .....
Raven is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-04-2009, 01:16 PM   #27
cheferson
Registered User
iTrader: (0)
 
cheferson's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: MA
Posts: 3,630
No 6 hour trips from these. The yellow oysters have some kick though. They were grown on about 50% coffee grounds and will uptake some of the caffeine into the fruits.
cheferson is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-07-2009, 09:12 AM   #28
zimmy
Registered User
 
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: Bethany CT
Posts: 2,877
you guys find morels at all? I used to get em by the pounds in PA, but this new england place seems to not have em.

No, no, no. we’re 30… 30, three zero.
zimmy is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-07-2009, 09:46 AM   #29
cheferson
Registered User
iTrader: (0)
 
cheferson's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: MA
Posts: 3,630
I have never personally, but i have heard of some finds , mostly in MA. Now would be the time for them
cheferson is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-08-2009, 05:41 PM   #30
Adam_777
Registered User
iTrader: (0)
 
Adam_777's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: N.K.
Posts: 1,330
neat pics of shrooms.Very cool stuff.
Adam_777 is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 11:35 AM.


Powered by vBulletin. Copyright ©2000 - 2008, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Please use all necessary and proper safety precautions. STAY SAFE Striper Talk Forums
Copyright 1998-20012 Striped-Bass.com