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11-07-2020, 07:03 PM
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The crowd outside the White House celebrating Joe Biden’s projected victory is blaring YMCA — the song President Trump closed out his latest rallies with.
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11-07-2020, 08:02 PM
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Donald Trump Celebrates Most Ever ‘Legal Votes’ for Sitting President Take a ride over to Breitbart. And witness the melt down .. I love this excuse. Since when do news networks choose The President. Funny it was acceptable in 2016 when media outlets called it for Trump now not so much 🙈
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11-07-2020, 09:14 PM
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Leaders Of Hungary And Slovenia, Stout Trump Allies In EU, Say U.S. Vote Isn't Over
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11-07-2020, 09:19 PM
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Leaders Of Hungary And Slovenia, Stout Trump Allies In EU, Say U.S. Vote Isn't Over
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Isn’t Slovenia where Melania is from?
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The artist formerly known as Scratch59.
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11-08-2020, 09:41 AM
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Isn’t Slovenia where Melania is from?
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Yes that’s what’s on her bill of sale
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11-08-2020, 10:24 AM
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11-08-2020, 11:16 AM
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TRUMP REPORTEDLY CONSIDERING LAUNCHING FOX NEWS RIVAL NETWORK
life after, anger at Fox / Murdoch family cannot be understated. Should he lose, Trump wants to destroy Fox - aides believe they can steal hosts Hannity & Carlson. Sources believe Trump will never admit he lost should we get there - instead stick with “rigged” “fraud” “stolen”
At least you’ll have a new station to watch dedicated to telling its viewers what they want to hear
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11-08-2020, 11:18 AM
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TRUMP REPORTEDLY CONSIDERING LAUNCHING FOX NEWS RIVAL NETWORK
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this would be fun....
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11-08-2020, 12:29 PM
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Yes, the Trumps are.
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Bryan
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"For once I agree with Spence. UGH. I just hope I don't get the urge to go start buying armani suits to wear in my shop"
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11-08-2020, 05:32 PM
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oops....democrats are embarrassing us around the world 
"One Mexican election authority is aghast at the fraud he has seen among Democrats in the 2020 election.
“The fraud I have seen in Michigan, Pennsylvania, Georgia, and some other states is so evident,” he said on condition of anonymity, that “it rivals the worst of what we have had in Mexico.”
Mexico’s dominant Institutional Revolutionary Party (PRI) held onto power for decades through a combination of ruthless central control via an unaccountable bureaucracy, a powerful political police, economic nationalism, and massive corruption and patronage. The country has come a long way in recent years but still has far to go.
Even so, Mexicans are aghast at the Biden machine’s electoral corruption.
“Mexican and Latin American ‘fraud experts’ like PRI wouldn’t believe how easy it is to rig elections in the United States,” the Mexican election authority told me. “And it’s very clear that Democrats used every tool at hand to force a win. As far as I can see, they are ‘stealing the election, fair and square.’”
Most countries south of the border are strict about ensuring one person, one vote. No foreigners are allowed to vote. Quality of voter integrity varies.
“We have a very strict voting system in El Salvador,” says Ambassador Francisco Lainez, a former foreign minister. “Every citizen over 18 has what’s called a Unique Identity Document bearing his or her name, personal information, and digital photo, fingerprint, and signature. Every voter must present that ID when requesting a ballot at the voting booth,” he said, perhaps too diplomatic to make a comment either way about the unfolding vote count in the United States.
I’ve seen El Salvador’s political process evolve since the Communist insurgency in the 1980s. As an official international election observer after the war, I was impressed with strict adherence to voter ID for everyone and measures to ensure that people vote only once.
Every democracy has its problems with fraud and abuse, and our southern neighbors have their fair share. Mexico still has trouble with “the substitution of ballots,” the Mexican election authority says, referring to wholesale dumping of real ballots and replacing them with faked ballots to be counted. “Entire blocks of cast votes were changed by others. All in favor of one candidate. These are very easy to spot. It’s impossible to have 100 percent of the votes for one option.”
It’s just as easy to spot in the United States, if those counting the ballots allow others to watch.
Traditional voter fraud in Mexico persists in some areas with “the nullification of ballots,” or “with writing on ballots, marking votes for multiple candidates, or whatever is needed to prevent those ballots from being counted,” the election authority told me. And then there is what he called “increasing the amount of ballots, exceeding the turnout.”
Biden’s Vote-Rigging Would Leave Mexican Vote Fraudsters Breathless
It’s the specific steps that Mexico has taken to prevent voter fraud at the ballot box—and to prevent noncitizens from voting at all—that reveal how Democrats in the United States have made politics dirtier than Mexico’s.
With a population of 129 million, Mexico is the 10th most populous country in the world. That leaves a lot of room for electoral fraud.
The PRI tolerated regional or token competition as long as opponents didn’t threaten its fundamental grip on power. Over time, however, Mexico’s spectacularly corrupt one-party state gave way to a real democratic system that, for all is shortcomings, the country guards jealously. In recent decades, opposition leaders ranging from conservative to Marxist have overcome the PRI to win the presidency.
Even the PRI would find American vote-rigging in 2020 too staggering to behold.
Vote by mail? No way. “In Mexico, and in Latin America, there is not a chance to mail votes. Mail service is terrible, no one would accept losing control of their vote,” the Mexican election authority says. He never heard of drive-thru voting until watching the 2020 U.S. election.
Vote on any day but Election Day? Never. Even applying to vote absentee requires the voter to appear in person with an ID three months in advance, and with a solid reason.
Can dead people still vote in Mexico? “Right now it is very difficult,” the official tells me. “But years before it was a very common fraud practice, as well as prison inmates and migrants.”
Mexico is as nationalistic as a country can be. It’s proud of its traditions and its sovereignty. It aggressively protects its system from foreign interference. And it has one of the toughest voter ID systems around.
All adult citizens must have national identification cards. One such ID is a voter card, called “Credencial para votar,” literally “credential for voting.” It resembles an American state driver’s license with name, address, age, sex, place of residence, and a photo of the bearer, plus a unique “clave de elector” or “voter key” that functions like an voter equivalent of an American Social Security number, but without the taxation or handouts. (There’s a different personal number for those in Mexico.)
This key is an 18-character alphanumeric code derived from letters from the individual’s given name, surname, mother’s maiden name or matronymic, the first internal consonant of each name, plus the numerical date of birth, two digits indicating the place of birth, either of the two genders, and a computer-generated suffix to prevent duplication. It contains numeric designations of the citizen’s state, district, municipality, neighborhood, and subsection. Unlike in America, Mexicans don’t appear on the voter rolls of multiple jurisdictions.
The code also indicates whether the Mexican citizen was foreign-born, natural-born to Mexican parents abroad, or a naturalized immigrant. Foreign status is important in Mexico, a country tough on illegal immigration and where foreigners are forbidden to interfere at all in politics.
The reverse of the credential-to-vote card contains the individual’s digitized signature and fingerprint, with personal data stored on a magnetic strip similar to those on a credit card. The card is protected with holograms and ultraviolet ink, all sealed in plastic.
In other words, Mexico runs a very tight ship to track its citizens—more than the average American would or probably should ever tolerate—to protect its electoral system from fraud and foreign interference.
If a Mexican citizen shows up at the polling station without showing this form of ID, he can’t vote. All of this shows why Mexico’s electoral process is cleaner than ours in America." |
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11-08-2020, 05:49 PM
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oops....democrats are embarrassing us around the world
"One Mexican election authority is aghast at the fraud he has seen among Democrats in the 2020 election.
“The fraud I have seen in Michigan, Pennsylvania, Georgia, and some other states is so evident,” he said on condition of anonymity, that “it rivals the worst of what we have had in Mexico.”
Mexico’s dominant Institutional Revolutionary Party (PRI) held onto power for decades through a combination of ruthless central control via an unaccountable bureaucracy, a powerful political police, economic nationalism, and massive corruption and patronage. The country has come a long way in recent years but still has far to go.
Even so, Mexicans are aghast at the Biden machine’s electoral corruption.
“Mexican and Latin American ‘fraud experts’ like PRI wouldn’t believe how easy it is to rig elections in the United States,” the Mexican election authority told me. “And it’s very clear that Democrats used every tool at hand to force a win. As far as I can see, they are ‘stealing the election, fair and square.’”
Most countries south of the border are strict about ensuring one person, one vote. No foreigners are allowed to vote. Quality of voter integrity varies.
“We have a very strict voting system in El Salvador,” says Ambassador Francisco Lainez, a former foreign minister. “Every citizen over 18 has what’s called a Unique Identity Document bearing his or her name, personal information, and digital photo, fingerprint, and signature. Every voter must present that ID when requesting a ballot at the voting booth,” he said, perhaps too diplomatic to make a comment either way about the unfolding vote count in the United States.
I’ve seen El Salvador’s political process evolve since the Communist insurgency in the 1980s. As an official international election observer after the war, I was impressed with strict adherence to voter ID for everyone and measures to ensure that people vote only once.
Every democracy has its problems with fraud and abuse, and our southern neighbors have their fair share. Mexico still has trouble with “the substitution of ballots,” the Mexican election authority says, referring to wholesale dumping of real ballots and replacing them with faked ballots to be counted. “Entire blocks of cast votes were changed by others. All in favor of one candidate. These are very easy to spot. It’s impossible to have 100 percent of the votes for one option.”
It’s just as easy to spot in the United States, if those counting the ballots allow others to watch.
Traditional voter fraud in Mexico persists in some areas with “the nullification of ballots,” or “with writing on ballots, marking votes for multiple candidates, or whatever is needed to prevent those ballots from being counted,” the election authority told me. And then there is what he called “increasing the amount of ballots, exceeding the turnout.”
Biden’s Vote-Rigging Would Leave Mexican Vote Fraudsters Breathless
It’s the specific steps that Mexico has taken to prevent voter fraud at the ballot box—and to prevent noncitizens from voting at all—that reveal how Democrats in the United States have made politics dirtier than Mexico’s.
With a population of 129 million, Mexico is the 10th most populous country in the world. That leaves a lot of room for electoral fraud.
The PRI tolerated regional or token competition as long as opponents didn’t threaten its fundamental grip on power. Over time, however, Mexico’s spectacularly corrupt one-party state gave way to a real democratic system that, for all is shortcomings, the country guards jealously. In recent decades, opposition leaders ranging from conservative to Marxist have overcome the PRI to win the presidency.
Even the PRI would find American vote-rigging in 2020 too staggering to behold.
Vote by mail? No way. “In Mexico, and in Latin America, there is not a chance to mail votes. Mail service is terrible, no one would accept losing control of their vote,” the Mexican election authority says. He never heard of drive-thru voting until watching the 2020 U.S. election.
Vote on any day but Election Day? Never. Even applying to vote absentee requires the voter to appear in person with an ID three months in advance, and with a solid reason.
Can dead people still vote in Mexico? “Right now it is very difficult,” the official tells me. “But years before it was a very common fraud practice, as well as prison inmates and migrants.”
Mexico is as nationalistic as a country can be. It’s proud of its traditions and its sovereignty. It aggressively protects its system from foreign interference. And it has one of the toughest voter ID systems around.
All adult citizens must have national identification cards. One such ID is a voter card, called “Credencial para votar,” literally “credential for voting.” It resembles an American state driver’s license with name, address, age, sex, place of residence, and a photo of the bearer, plus a unique “clave de elector” or “voter key” that functions like an voter equivalent of an American Social Security number, but without the taxation or handouts. (There’s a different personal number for those in Mexico.)
This key is an 18-character alphanumeric code derived from letters from the individual’s given name, surname, mother’s maiden name or matronymic, the first internal consonant of each name, plus the numerical date of birth, two digits indicating the place of birth, either of the two genders, and a computer-generated suffix to prevent duplication. It contains numeric designations of the citizen’s state, district, municipality, neighborhood, and subsection. Unlike in America, Mexicans don’t appear on the voter rolls of multiple jurisdictions.
The code also indicates whether the Mexican citizen was foreign-born, natural-born to Mexican parents abroad, or a naturalized immigrant. Foreign status is important in Mexico, a country tough on illegal immigration and where foreigners are forbidden to interfere at all in politics.
The reverse of the credential-to-vote card contains the individual’s digitized signature and fingerprint, with personal data stored on a magnetic strip similar to those on a credit card. The card is protected with holograms and ultraviolet ink, all sealed in plastic.
In other words, Mexico runs a very tight ship to track its citizens—more than the average American would or probably should ever tolerate—to protect its electoral system from fraud and foreign interference.
If a Mexican citizen shows up at the polling station without showing this form of ID, he can’t vote. All of this shows why Mexico’s electoral process is cleaner than ours in America." |
Wow now your using Mexican experts . To defend Trumps claims of fraud Cool from a source that can’t get much farther right .. hea hea kool aid
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11-08-2020, 05:57 PM
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Wow now your using Mexican experts . To defend Trumps claims of fraud Cool
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"authority speaking on conditions of anonymity"
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11-08-2020, 06:48 PM
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Now the Trumplicans want National Identity Cards?
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11-08-2020, 08:44 PM
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"authority speaking on conditions of anonymity"
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Anonymity its not the issue but a Mexican fraud expert that’s funny
Maybe he’s an illegal and and that’s why he’s wants Anonymity
And then you got fox host
Levin called on Republican-controlled state legislatures to disregard the results of the 2020 election and send electors to the Electoral College who would vote for Trump...
What an upstanding American
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11-08-2020, 10:16 PM
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Anonymity its not the issue but a Mexican fraud expert that’s funny
Maybe he’s an illegal and and that’s why he’s wants Anonymity
And then you got fox host
Levin called on Republican-controlled state legislatures to disregard the results of the 2020 election and send electors to the Electoral College who would vote for Trump...
What an upstanding American
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Flailing,,,,,,if there is nothing there then the investigation should show nothing ...right? What are you afraid of?
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11-08-2020, 10:18 PM
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Now the Trumplicans want National Identity Cards?
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No, just an id to vote. They even do it in Mexico😁
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11-08-2020, 10:39 PM
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No, just an id to vote. They even do it in Mexico😁
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They have national identity cards
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Niles: You have met “people”, haven’t you?
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11-08-2020, 10:46 PM
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11-08-2020, 11:07 PM
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Apparently you didn’t read the article you cited
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Frasier: Niles, I’ve just had the most marvelous idea for a website! People will post their opinions, cheeky bon mots, and insights, and others will reply in kind!
Niles: You have met “people”, haven’t you?
Lets Go Darwin
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11-09-2020, 08:46 AM
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Flailing,,,,,,if there is nothing there then the investigation should show nothing ...right? What are you afraid of?
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Afraid the sitting president Is attacking our elections suggestions at a scale of a James Bond film . With zero evidence of how this massive fraud was committed just to stay in power and his party and like minded people such as yourself
don’t have an issue with Trump lying or suggesting fraud pre election or post election we all ready know all that.. another shinning example of how your putting man before Nation
Clearly rallies size has poisoned the minds of Trump supporters . A classic example of being in an echo chamber . Nothing exist out side that event
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11-09-2020, 08:53 AM
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how this massive fraud was committed just to stay in power and his
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don't underestimate the democrats...we've seen that they are quite ruthless in their attempt to stay in or gain power and they have the media and the technocracy at their disposal.. |
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11-09-2020, 09:16 AM
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According to Trump, Nearly Everyone Is Conspiring To Deny Him His Rightful Victory
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11-10-2020, 07:09 AM
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Biden is ahead of Trump by 45,000 in Pennsylvania.
Biden now has 12,337 more votes in Georgia than Trump.
The margin between Gore and Bush in Florida in 2000 was 537 votes.
There’s a difference between “clear” and “close.”
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11-10-2020, 08:48 AM
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don't underestimate the democrats...we've seen that they are quite ruthless in their attempt to stay in or gain power and they have the media and the technocracy at their disposal..
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Classic you have no issues with Republicans still not providing evidence of the biggest crime in American history
You just expect everyone else to show proof it didn’t happen
Like most conservative thinkers you think every ones as gullible as their voters
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