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11-12-2020, 03:45 PM
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judge rules PA secretary of state had no authority to extend voting deadline
It would appear that the accusations of irregularities, were not completely unfounded. Likely nowhere near enough to change the outcome (Budens lead has grown), but are these things worth looking into? or should we pretend they don’t exist?
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/pen...anged-deadline
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11-12-2020, 04:12 PM
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Trump just won the Pennsylvania lawsuit saying ballots arriving after election day can't be counted.
That sounds great until you realize these were previously set aside (and are not included in counts), there are less than 10,000 of them, and Biden is leading PA by 54,109 votes.
Meanwhile he’s playing games with National Security
Just what is his goal?
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11-12-2020, 05:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Pete F.
That sounds great until you realize these were previously set aside (and are not included in counts), there are less than 10,000 of them, and Biden is leading PA by 54,109 votes.
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I don't think this is accurate... |
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11-12-2020, 06:04 PM
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yeah, I heard he has 472 million votes now...did you know that's a record?  |
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11-12-2020, 07:33 PM
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How’s the “Golden Goose” doing?
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11-12-2020, 07:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Jim in CT
It would appear that the accusations of irregularities, were not completely unfounded. Likely nowhere near enough to change the outcome (Budens lead has grown), but are these things worth looking into? or should we pretend they don’t exist?
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/pen...anged-deadline |
Jim this happened before the election .. your dedication to this fool is incredible
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11-12-2020, 07:51 PM
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I don't think this is accurate...
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Of course you don’t because it’s true
Judge ruled ballots that were previously set aside should not be counted
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11-12-2020, 09:56 PM
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Repeat after me. President Biden. Vice President Harris.
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11-13-2020, 04:11 AM
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Originally Posted by wdmso
Of course you don’t because it’s true
Judge ruled ballots that were previously set aside should not be counted
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Originally Posted by Pete F. View Post
Trump just won the Pennsylvania lawsuit saying ballots arriving after election day can't be counted.
read
"may not count ballots where the voters needed to provide proof of identification and failed to do so by Nov. 9"
....but I'm sure you are ok with voting without proof of ID  ...
After the Pennsylvania Supreme Court ruled that mail-in ballots could be accepted three days after Election Day, Pennsylvania Secretary of State Kathy Boockvar submitted guidance that said proof of identification could be provided up until Nov. 12, which is six days from the ballot acceptance deadline. That guidance was issued two days before Election Day.
“[T]he Court concludes that Respondent Kathy Boockvar, in her official capacity as Secretary of the Commonwealth, lacked statutory authority to issue the November 1, 2020, guidance
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11-13-2020, 08:53 AM
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Repeat after me. President Biden. Vice President Harris.
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Isn’t everyone supposed to run around Sky Screaming “Not My President”?
I thought that precedent was set 4 years ago.
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"If you're arguing with an idiot, make sure he isn't doing the same thing."
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11-13-2020, 08:56 AM
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Isn’t everyone supposed to run around Sky Screaming “Not My President”?
I thought that precedent was set 4 years ago.
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they are too busy spray painting public property, blocking highways, threatening citizens in their cars and destroying police vehicles and burning buildings....oh wait.... |
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11-13-2020, 09:14 AM
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So as of this morning, Trump is represented in his PA lawsuit by...a divorce attorney.
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11-13-2020, 09:23 AM
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I like how his lawyers made sure the remaining votes that "could" help cut into Biden's 54,000 vote lead can't be counted. This is the problem when you want some counting to stop and other counting to continue. Even the lawyers get confused.
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No, no, no. we’re 30… 30, three zero.
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11-13-2020, 09:31 AM
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Originally Posted by Pete F. View Post
Trump just won the Pennsylvania lawsuit saying ballots arriving after election day can't be counted.
read
"may not count ballots where the voters needed to provide proof of identification and failed to do so by Nov. 9"
....but I'm sure you are ok with voting without proof of ID ...
After the Pennsylvania Supreme Court ruled that mail-in ballots could be accepted three days after Election Day, Pennsylvania Secretary of State Kathy Boockvar submitted guidance that said proof of identification could be provided up until Nov. 12, which is six days from the ballot acceptance deadline. That guidance was issued two days before Election Day.
“[T]he Court concludes that Respondent Kathy Boockvar, in her official capacity as Secretary of the Commonwealth, lacked statutory authority to issue the November 1, 2020, guidance |
Ahh the ID card argument do some research 34 states require voters to show identification at the polls in order to cast a ballot. PA is not one of them .
The constitution say you need an ID to Vote no
It’s all about voter suppression not having a secure election
Your boy Trump would cry fraud even if all states had voter ID and you would I am 100% certain you would stand with him. truth be damned
PS who push Voter I’d laws Republicans
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11-13-2020, 09:32 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by The Dad Fisherman
Isn’t everyone supposed to run around Sky Screaming “Not My President”?
I thought that precedent was set 4 years ago.
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I'm not particularly surprised you thought that, but... |
No, no, no. we’re 30… 30, three zero.
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11-13-2020, 09:35 AM
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If you still have crazy I've really lost my mind Rudy out front making your case for voter fraud, well you get what you pay for; I guess money is still tight in Trump world. Trump being the con man he is, is gathering election defense donations from the mindless supporters who have bought into his conspiracy theories.
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11-13-2020, 09:35 AM
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Quote:
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Isn’t everyone supposed to run around Sky Screaming “Not My President”?
I thought that precedent was set 4 years ago.
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No 11 years ago
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11-13-2020, 09:36 AM
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Quote:
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Isn’t everyone supposed to run around Sky Screaming “Not My President”?
I thought that precedent was set 4 years ago.
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I bet you like this guy too.
Sean Hannity: Obama's "Not My President" January 12, 2015
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No, no, no. we’re 30… 30, three zero.
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11-13-2020, 09:47 AM
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Big fan, one of the greatest journalistic minds of our time. Up there with Cronkite
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11-13-2020, 09:48 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by wdmso
34 states require voters to show identification at the polls in order to cast a ballot. PA is not one of them
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the ballots in question were not cast in person...for the ballots in question you do...try to pay attention
State of PA
If a voter is voting for the first time in an election district, the voter must show proof
of identification, either photo or non-photo identification.
Act 18 of 2012 imposed new proof of identification requirements for voters applying to vote by absentee ballot. The court’s ruling in 2014 did not affect those new requirements and
they remain in effect.
A voter applying to vote by absentee ballot must provide proof of identification.
A voter who does not include proof of identification with the absentee ballot application should still receive an absentee ballot; however, the county board of elections must send a notice to the voter with the absentee ballot requiring the voter to provide proof of identification
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11-13-2020, 10:06 AM
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Big fan, one of the greatest journalistic minds of our time. Up there with Cronkite
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Interesting choice of words. I understand why.
"I never claimed to be a journalist"
Sean Hannity
August 21, 2016 NYT
Asked...whether Fox considered Hannity a journalist, a network spokesman declined to answer directly. She would only allow that Hannity is “an opinion talk-show host.”
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No, no, no. we’re 30… 30, three zero.
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11-13-2020, 01:22 PM
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Originally Posted by scottw
the ballots in question were not cast in person...for the ballots in question you do...try to pay attention
State of PA
If a voter is voting for the first time in an election district, the voter must show proof
of identification, either photo or non-photo identification.
Act 18 of 2012 imposed new proof of identification requirements for voters applying to vote by absentee ballot. The court’s ruling in 2014 did not affect those new requirements and
they remain in effect.
A voter applying to vote by absentee ballot must provide proof of identification.
A voter who does not include proof of identification with the absentee ballot application should still receive an absentee ballot; however, the county board of elections must send a notice to the voter with the absentee ballot requiring the voter to provide proof of identification
with the absentee ballot.
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How an un-American suggestion to allow some one more time for to correct their ballot so it counts ..
are you suggesting Trump would file such a law suit in a state he won?
That’s the problem with Trump lovers and conservatives in general they suggest they are all for the equal application of justice under the law .. but only claim fraud in Democratic areas
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11-13-2020, 02:00 PM
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How an un-American suggestion to allow some one more time for to correct their ballot so it counts ..
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You really don’t know anything do you?
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11-13-2020, 03:51 PM
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You really don’t know anything do you?
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I know enough to understand when a party cares more about fake fraud then allowing voters to actual vote
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11-13-2020, 03:58 PM
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I think Tweety is getting close to accepting his participation award and going home to Floriduh
“ Now it is learned that the horrendous Dominion Voting System was used in Arizona (and big in Nevada). No wonder the result was a very close loss!”
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11-13-2020, 04:14 PM
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I know enough to understand when a party cares more about fake fraud then allowing voters to actual vote
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you can't change election law right before an election particularly when it is not within your purview to do so...
“[T]he Court concludes that Respondent Kathy Boockvar, in her official capacity as Secretary of the Commonwealth, lacked statutory authority to issue the November 1, 2020, guidance to Respondents County Boards of Elections insofar as that guidance purported to change the deadline … for certain electors to verify proof of identification,” Judge Mary Hannah Leavitt said in a court order.
This was in line with the Trump campaign’s argument, which was that there was no basis in the state’s law to extend the identification deadline, and that Boockvar did not have the power to unilaterally change it. |
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11-13-2020, 07:00 PM
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you can't change election law right before an election particularly when it is not within your purview to do so...
“[T]he Court concludes that Respondent Kathy Boockvar, in her official capacity as Secretary of the Commonwealth, lacked statutory authority to issue the November 1, 2020, guidance to Respondents County Boards of Elections insofar as that guidance purported to change the deadline … for certain electors to verify proof of identification,” Judge Mary Hannah Leavitt said in a court order.
This was in line with the Trump campaign’s argument, which was that there was no basis in the state’s law to extend the identification deadline, and that Boockvar did not have the power to unilaterally change it.
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And what does this have to do with this massive fraud you still insist exist
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11-13-2020, 08:15 PM
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Scott you need to head over to Breitbart You’ll fit right in .
Donald Trump is Commander in Chief of the Pentagon until January 21, 2021
Do the Saturday Night Massacre thing right now. No delay.
Order the seizure of all ballots in WI, MI, PA, Georgia and NC. Bring them all back to the White House. Arrest all on-air talent at the TV networks and their CEO's beginning with Rupert Murdoch who is part of the coup.
Democracy is over. Trump rules or the communists do. It's one or the other.
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11-14-2020, 05:11 AM
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Do the Saturday Night Massacre thing right now. No delay.
Order the seizure of all ballots in WI, MI, PA, Georgia and NC. Bring them all back to the White House. Arrest all on-air talent at the TV networks and their CEO's beginning with Rupert Murdoch who is part of the coup.
Democracy is over. Trump rules or the communists do. It's one or the other.
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you know...if you listen to what some elected democrats are actually saying along with some media members on the left etc...there are actually some calling for a reckoning for trump and his supporters
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11-14-2020, 06:07 AM
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Ledge Runner Baits
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Posturing aside, which is politics as usual, for this current administration to not help with the transition after a clear mandate by the voters is dangerous. With this virus running rampant again and our economy and national security tied to it, to not allow the Biden team access to key briefings and planning is a national security risk. The spoiled childlike behavior I expect from the thin skinned orange baby but it’s shocking so many Republicans are enabling this dangerous behavior.
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