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Old 01-31-2010, 12:10 PM   #1
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spinning setup

Thinking about jumping into the football game this year. I have an 18' cc and am considering purchasing a spinning setup capable of tuna.

Any suggestions? Have heard good things about Fin Nor reels, how about Penn? Not looking to break the bank.

Any other gear needed?

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Old 01-31-2010, 06:35 PM   #2
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i've got a penn 950. it works, it's big and clunky but get's the job done on the occasional fish. i've had a few shimano thunnus's and they were nice. in an ideal world we'd all be fishing stellas and van stalls. i've played around with the fin nors - they were clunkier than the penn but i hear good things from guys who own them

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Old 01-31-2010, 09:32 PM   #3
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Fin nor is cheap and reliable. Cabo also wont kill the wallet.



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Old 02-01-2010, 05:38 AM   #4
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Don't have on but have been told the fin-nor 950 gets 50 lbs of drag

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Old 02-01-2010, 12:11 PM   #5
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I believe Buckman or his son have used the Fin Nors with pretty good success based on some of their pictures. Might want to shoot a private message that way.
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Old 02-01-2010, 04:24 PM   #6
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Fin-nors work well.

I've got the 75's and 95's. Like them alot.

Btw - If anyone wants to buy a Penn 9500SS - older style metal body, loaded with 50lb braid - very good condition - $100 and its yours. Good reel, but my Dad thinks everything should match -- evidently we're getting fancy on L-J these days.
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Old 02-02-2010, 09:14 AM   #7
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Thanks all, I assume 50 or 65lb braid is the way to go on these reels? How do you tie to a leader, with a swivel? Do you double the line with a bimini twist? What is the best line/leader connection. Also do you tie direct to the plug/lure or use a snap? If a snap, what works best for you?

Thanks again...
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Old 02-02-2010, 09:35 AM   #8
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Best line to leader connection is double loops cat pawed together. You can put a bimini in the braid and then use one of Basil's looped leaders.

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Old 02-02-2010, 11:22 AM   #9
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bunch of info here for you:

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Old 02-02-2010, 12:34 PM   #10
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bunch of info here for you:

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I used his leaders last year - very nice. Wish I had the knowledge and patience to create myself.

Fish are bigger and badder especially using spinning gear. Shimano Spheros 18000, Saragosa 18000, Penn 950, Fin Nor 850 all good reels that won't break the bank and have capacity for lots o line.

My Fin Nor 850 has ~450 80lb braid.

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Old 02-02-2010, 01:42 PM   #11
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I used his leaders last year - very nice. Wish I had the knowledge and patience to create myself.

Fish are bigger and badder especially using spinning gear. Shimano Spheros 18000, Saragosa 18000, Penn 950, Fin Nor 850 all good reels that won't break the bank and have capacity for lots o line.

My Fin Nor 850 has ~450 80lb braid.
Yeah Mike , I did too,they fly thru the guides like nothing.

My problem is I haven't leaned to splice yet and I broke off the spliced loop he did for me at the end of last year

I gotta get some hollow JB and try practicing it.
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Old 02-02-2010, 02:55 PM   #12
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Jeff next time I see ya I'll show you how to splice and do the loop.



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Old 02-02-2010, 03:41 PM   #13
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i wouldn't mind a slicing lesson too, maybe with a few beers

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Old 02-02-2010, 06:20 PM   #14
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cool, thanks Matt......... Paul ,yr a boat ho, thead ho ,splice ho,

lol j/k dude more the merrier
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Old 02-02-2010, 07:49 PM   #15
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ho- ho- ho...

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Old 02-02-2010, 08:37 PM   #16
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If beers and splicing doesn't work, I'm doing a little thing on splicing at SaltwaterEdge during their "Tuna-Day" in March.

Doesn't mean there won't be quite a few beers after...
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Old 02-03-2010, 06:50 AM   #17
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If beers and splicing doesn't work, I'm doing a little thing on splicing at SaltwaterEdge during their "Tuna-Day" in March.

Doesn't mean there won't be quite a few beers after...
ahhh I wondered if you were doing that session, I hope to get down for that afternoon. Looks like a nice lineup.
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Old 02-04-2010, 02:58 PM   #18
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fin nor 9500 is awsome.
i got this one on the 8500.
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Old 02-04-2010, 04:15 PM   #19
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Jay you are one of the best and I'm sure that your seminar is going to be killer. I might come down to hear ya kid as long as you get the first round. Toast to the magic bluefish........



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Old 02-05-2010, 08:30 AM   #20
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Thanks Matt, but I've got a long way to before I get to my dad's or any of his buddy's levels - I'll get there someday.

I think the SWE thing is going to be less formal than those other seminars. I think the idea is to just take a bunch of guys that tuna fish or are interested in learning and get them all together. There are going to be a few demo's throughout the day, and I'm helping out with a few of them.

The good stuff always comes out while guys are just hanging around talking - and even more when there's beer involved.

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Old 02-05-2010, 09:50 AM   #21
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Great info guys, especially that link to streamline.

Thanks.
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Old 02-05-2010, 10:32 AM   #22
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SWE Tuna Seminar

March 13th– Tuna Seminar 12pm to 4pm

• How to make a blind splice – 12PM
• How to rig a harpoon – 1PM
• How to on crimping – 2PM
• "Light" Tackle for tuna from 20 to 200 pounds – 3PM

Should be a good time.

capecodder - that streamline link is excellent. The senor tuna link on the wire flip method is the same way that I make my loops. It's alot easier than the old school latch needle technique.
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Old 02-05-2010, 12:31 PM   #23
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That is an excellent tutorial on loops. So do you use the hollow spectra for the entire spool or just a top shot? Is the hollow spectra thicker than say a Power Pro? I would think it is meaning a lot less line on the spool?

If I got a Fin Nor 8500 or 9500 would I put on 80lb braid (like PP) then a top shot of hollow spectra? Or Spectra on the whole thing???

Also, what is a good quality rod to match with a reel like the Fin Nor. Looking for a good value, not cheap not top of the line...
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Old 02-05-2010, 05:05 PM   #24
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I've been using diawa boat braid 70 lb think it's called PE5 spliced to hollow Jerry brown 80lb with a loop. The diawa casts well and comes with a color change every 30ft which is helpful when your marking fish at a particular depth. The japanese lines go by a PE rating ,not lb rating.
He tested my line and says its break at about 65lb fyi.

Roger, the guy at Streamline uses Jerry Brown hollow 60lb on the whole spool. He says this line has been testing at around 90 lb breaking strenght and it casts fine.

The nice thing about hollow is when you splice you lose no strength. Also if you lose a bunch of line off your spool ,you can just splice more on.
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Old 02-07-2010, 10:36 AM   #25
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That daiwa line is a huge help when vertically jigging and you are marking down at depth. Helps on charters running to the canyons. You know exactly how deep you are. Great stuff. If you do go on a "party"boat out tuna fishing remember to account for the distance above the waterline that you are. ex. if you are marking at 100 and you are 15' above the water you need to drop 115' of line to be in the "zone".



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Lots of talk about reels, what rods are you guys using/recommending?

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OTI rods have performed flawlessly.



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Old 02-08-2010, 10:11 AM   #28
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I have a calstar CMS built which I like but it's a little heavy. I'm trying the OTI new carbon fiber popping rod this year, wrapping the blank now. There's a few companys coming out with carbon fiber rods this year, OTI, Black hole from Kilsong's shop is another. These rods are less susceptible to breaking than straight graphite rods if you high stick the rod.
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Old 02-08-2010, 04:07 PM   #29
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who would dare highstick

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Old 02-08-2010, 05:34 PM   #30
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Triple whammy

Let me make life easy for Niko and
Jeff and other interested parties.
I usually do an eel rigging session at
the tackle table at MSBA fishing expo.
But I think I might change to a splicing
session since I had the devil's own time
finding live eels in early March. The 2010
expo is March 6-7 at Stonehill College in
Easton, MA.
The double whammy is that one of our
featured speakers is David Lamoureux
who took a 157 lb tuna from his kayak.
Dave used a fin-nor reel and will detail it.
With all due repect to Niko and Jeff that
took more balls than we three had together
in Jeff's boat.
Triple whammy, I have been know to find
a extra $20 or two in my sock draw and
could easily be persuaded to spent it recklessly.
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