Boston Tea Party on The Common

[JohnnyD]

Who went? There's a lot of outrage on these boards at the current state of the government, so I'm sure you aren't all internet whiners and at least a handful of you guys were there support the causes many of you preach so strongly about... I was.

[JohnR]

Wow. Doesn't look like a lot of unruly people spreading fear and racism. Wonder how it will look on the news?

So what is your take? Respectable people, respectable message?

I was watching Chris Matthews a few weeks ago stumbling all over hisself trying to vilify the Tea Partiers.

I'd considered going to RI's but alas, I must work and have missed too much time in the past few weeks from hydro-induced household issues.

[mekcotuit]

You betcha she be presidential material..not

[JohnR]

Originally Posted by mekcotuit

You betcha she be presidential material..not


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I'm pretty sure I'm not going to vote for S.P. but I approve of this message. Spend Less, Tax Less. We are spending FAR MORE than we take in and borrowing a lot to do that. Happened in the last administration and it is hitting ludicrous speed in this administration.

As a country, we are doing what we argued ad-nauseum about WRT the banks and guvmint for the past couple years. If we don't change course hard and soon we're SCREWED. Keep this up and we're only 80 years or so behind the UK in being meaningless.

[buckman]

Originally Posted by mekcotuit

You betcha she be presidential material..not


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She's making 12 million this year. I don't think she wants the pay cut.

[buckman]

Thanks JD, I couldn't make it but I sure appreciate those like yourself who did.

[spence]

The Tea Party, along with the Right Wing punditry will destroy the credible GOP reformers...

This doesn't make me happy.

-spence

[JohnnyD]

Originally Posted by buckman

Thanks JD, I couldn't make it but I sure appreciate those like yourself who did.

I had a meeting in Downtown Crossing. Figured I'd check out what all the commotion is about.

Listening to some of the people talk (not the speakers, spectators), many of them are completely out of their mind. It basically felt like I walked into a Fox News convention. People regurgitating the same baseless crap that you hear on Hannity or Beck on any average night.

A couple gems:
"Communist censorship like they have in China will come to America. You open a NYTimes here and it's 60 pages, in China it's about 7."

"We're all going to be working for Mexicans some day."

"Sarah Palin for President 2012!!"

The majority of people that I saw in attendance were probably over 50 and male. I noticed maybe 5 people that were a race other than white. At least half the people had "Don't Tread on Me" flags and I would bet $100 that most of them didn't have a clue the meaning of the flags.

[buckman]

Originally Posted by JohnnyD

I had a meeting in Downtown Crossing. Figured I'd check out what all the commotion is about.

Listening to some of the people talk (not the speakers, spectators), many of them are completely out of their mind. It basically felt like I walked into a Fox News convention. People regurgitating the same baseless crap that you hear on Hannity or Beck on any average night.

A couple gems:
"Communist censorship like they have in China will come to America. You open a NYTimes here and it's 60 pages, in China it's about 7."

"We're all going to be working for Mexicans some day."

"Sarah Palin for President 2012!!"

The majority of people that I saw in attendance were probably over 50 and male. I noticed maybe 5 people that were a race other than white. At least half the people had "Don't Tread on Me" flags and I would bet $100 that most of them didn't have a clue the meaning of the flags.

Great report, expected much harsher BS .

[JohnR]

Originally Posted by JohnnyD

I had a meeting in Downtown Crossing. Figured I'd check out what all the commotion is about.

Listening to some of the people talk (not the speakers, spectators), many of them are completely out of their mind. It basically felt like I walked into a Fox News convention. People regurgitating the same baseless crap that you hear on Hannity or Beck on any average night.

A couple gems:
"Communist censorship like they have in China will come to America. You open a NYTimes here and it's 60 pages, in China it's about 7."

"We're all going to be working for Mexicans some day."

"Sarah Palin for President 2012!!"

The majority of people that I saw in attendance were probably over 50 and male. I noticed maybe 5 people that were a race other than white. At least half the people had "Don't Tread on Me" flags and I would bet $100 that most of them didn't have a clue the meaning of the flags.

hehehe - so tell us, what did you like?

[scottw]

Originally Posted by JohnnyD

I had a meeting in Downtown Crossing. Figured I'd check out what all the commotion is about.

Listening to some of the people talk (not the speakers, spectators), many of them are completely out of their mind. It basically felt like I walked into a Fox News convention. People regurgitating the same baseless crap that you hear on Hannity or Beck on any average night.

A couple gems:
"Communist censorship like they have in China will come to America. You open a NYTimes here and it's 60 pages, in China it's about 7."

"We're all going to be working for Mexicans some day."

"Sarah Palin for President 2012!!"

The majority of people that I saw in attendance were probably over 50 and male. I noticed maybe 5 people that were a race other than white. At least half the people had "Don't Tread on Me" flags and I would bet $100 that most of them didn't have a clue the meaning of the flags.

you should have done what you always do and walk around telling everyone else how ignorant and uninformed they are

so...which was it?

"Who went? I'm sure you aren't all internet whiners and at least a handful of you guys were there support the causes many of you preach so strongly about... I was."

or

"I had a meeting in Downtown Crossing. Figured I'd check out what all the commotion is about.


were you there to support limited government and low taxes and adherence to the Constitution...or to count how many non-whites showed up because you happened to be in the area on business?

[JohnnyD]

Originally Posted by JohnR

hehehe - so tell us, what did you like?

It was a very interesting experience. I agree with a lot of what the Tea Party Movement stands for at its core - fiscal responsibility. On the other hand, I think the message is lost within the people that make up the movement, who for the most part come off as complete nutjobs.

As much as I hate to say it, Karl Rove put it best:
"If tea party groups are to maximize their influence on policy, they must now begin the difficult task of disassociating themselves from cranks and conspiracy nuts," Rove wrote. "This includes 9/11 deniers, 'birthers' who insist Barack Obama was not born in the United States, and militia supporters espousing something vaguely close to armed rebellion."

Also, regardless of you opinion of Obama being a socialist or not, Socialist has been yelled about and thrown around so much that no one cares about the word any more and people have grown numb to it.

Originally Posted by scottw

were you there to support limited government and low taxes and adherence to the Constitution...or to count how many non-whites showed up because you happened to be in the area on business?

Before pulling onto Boylston St, I didn't even know the Tea Party was taking place. A handful on here preach about the Tea Parties and what the Tea Parties stand for, yet I bet they haven't attended one. I wanted to see, in person, what all the hoopla is about - not some filtered, polarized version shown on FoxNews.

[buckman]

Originally Posted by JohnnyD

I had a meeting in Downtown Crossing. Figured I'd check out what all the commotion is about.

Listening to some of the people talk (not the speakers, spectators), many of them are completely out of their mind. It basically felt like I walked into a Fox News convention. People regurgitating the same baseless crap that you hear on Hannity or Beck on any average night.

A couple gems:
"Communist censorship like they have in China will come to America. You open a NYTimes here and it's 60 pages, in China it's about 7."

"We're all going to be working for Mexicans some day."

"Sarah Palin for President 2012!!"

The majority of people that I saw in attendance were probably over 50 and male. I noticed maybe 5 people that were a race other than white. At least half the people had "Don't Tread on Me" flags and I would bet $100 that most of them didn't have a clue the meaning of the flags.

Let's just say you have a track record of distorting the facts as far as the Tea Party goes so as to belittle the movement. Why don't you explain your disdain for them.

No I wasn't at the rally. I was busy. There are other ways to voice ones opinion JD.
It's understood the whole thread was started by you as a means of discrediting not only the Tea Party, but also to challange those like myself. I guess it also could make you feel bigger.
Once again, why did you start this thread?

[scottw]

I don't know Buck, I just read it again and it sounds exactly like a mainstream media journalist's assessment(although, the last go round, a few of them actually seemed to wonder why these peaceful protesters were being so maligned) .... so he might have another career brewing...he walked around...probably sneering at everyone...didn't talk to anyone.....tried to count how many minorities were in attendance, confirmed all of his preconcieved biases in about 30 seconds and left to report his very scientific findings.... Fox News, Hannity, Beck, Palin, Mexicans, clueless ingoramuses......fair and balanced reporting from JDNBC

[JohnnyD]

Originally Posted by buckman

Let's just say you have a track record of distorting the facts as far as the Tea Party goes so as to belittle the movement. Why don't you explain your disdain for them.

When have I "distorted the facts"? It's fun to make accusations, but I'm curious as to any support for them.

I started the thread for two reasons: 1) A lot of people here continually boast about how big of a deal the tea parties are. That people should support them. Yet, none of those people went. 2) Because the people that I witnessed at the tea party are, for the most part, exactly as depicted by its critics. Old, white, conservative men.

Maybe you forgot this comment I made earlier:

It was a very interesting experience. I agree with a lot of what the Tea Party Movement stands for at its core - fiscal responsibility. On the other hand, I think the message is lost within the people that make up the movement, who for the most part come off as complete nutjobs.

As much as I hate to say it, Karl Rove put it best:
"If tea party groups are to maximize their influence on policy, they must now begin the difficult task of disassociating themselves from cranks and conspiracy nuts," Rove wrote. "This includes 9/11 deniers, 'birthers' who insist Barack Obama was not born in the United States, and militia supporters espousing something vaguely close to armed rebellion."

The people Karl Rove talks about were there in full force and that's where my major criticisms originate - that and a large number of people wearing Palin 2012 shirts.

[scottw]

Originally Posted by JohnnyD

When have I "distorted the facts"? It's fun to make accusations, but I'm curious as to any support for them.

I started the thread for two reasons: 1) A lot of people here continually boast about how big of a deal the tea parties are.really, name 1 That people should support them. Yet, none of those people went. prove it 2) Because the people that I witnessed at the tea party are, for the most part, exactly as depicted by its critics. Old, white, conservative men.maybe the non-whites are a-scared after they saw that nice african american tea party member in St Louis get the crap kicked out of him and racial slurs hurled at him by the SEIU Thug Union Members....you know the racist history in Boston and lot's of union members there...probably not safe...the RI Tea Party gathering at the State House was run by women and there were lot's of non-Old, White, "Conservatives"(how do you determine this from a distance?)


Maybe you forgot this comment I made earlier:was it intelligent?


The people Karl Rove talks about were there in full force and that's where my major criticisms originate - that and a large number of people wearing Palin 2012 shirts.

better than Che Guevara tee shirts..he was a mass murderer

ummm...that's only a portion of his statements, is it out of context?... and you didn't source it properly...practice what you preach

[Joe]

They are mostly independents. I had read in the liberal media that they were wingnuts, but that was a big lie.

[Nebe]

Its a shame sarah palin has been chosen to be their voice..... I like their message too, but the messenger is a complete moron...

[striperman36]

I watched most of her speech live streamed today, she is a total moron, and her speech writers should be fired.

[justplugit]

New York Times Poll finds Tea Party members are wealthier, more well educated than the general public ,tend to be Republican, white ,male and married, and their strong opposition to the Obama Administration is more rooted in their political ideology than anxiety about their personal economic situation.

They have 3 main concerns:

The recent HC overhaul.
Government spending.
A feeling that their opinions are not represented in Washington.

So much for Pelosie and the "Astro Turfs".

[spence]

Originally Posted by justplugit

The recent HC overhaul.
Government spending.
A feeling that their opinions are not represented in Washington.

My father said the exact same 3 things when Presdient Bush signed the Medicare Prescription Drug bill into law.

-spence

[justplugit]

Originally Posted by spence

My father said the exact same 3 things when Presdient Bush signed the Medicare Prescription Drug bill into law.

-spence

Waay ahead of his time.

[scottw]

Originally Posted by spence

My father said the exact same 3 things when Presdient Bush signed the Medicare Prescription Drug bill into law.

-spence

he was either alligned with other conservatives who vociferously opposed that large expansion of government ...

or he was alligned with other liberals who were only oppose to it because it wasn't a large enough expansion of govermnment in their opinion...and who could not stomach the thought of a Republican president signing into law a huge government entitlement....that's democrap pandering territory exclusively

you constantly roll this out Spence and it's really weak....:

[PaulS]

Originally Posted by justplugit

New York Times Poll finds Tea Party members are wealthier, more well educated than the general public ,tend to be Republican, white ,male and married, and their strong opposition to the Obama Administration is more rooted in their political ideology than anxiety about their personal economic situation.

They have 3 main concerns:

The recent HC overhaul.
Government spending.
A feeling that their opinions are not represented in Washington.

So much for Pelosie and the "Astro Turfs".

Can you pls. post a link. I saw a Quinipiac college poll which said that they are less educated and make less money on average than Joe 6 pack.

[scottw]

Originally Posted by PaulS

Can you pls. post a link. I saw a Quinipiac college poll which said that they are less educated and make less money on average than Joe 6 pack.

you are confused...that poll was Obama Voters in general... the ..."GIM-ME PARTY"

[RIJIMMY]

Originally Posted by PaulS

Can you pls. post a link. I saw a Quinipiac college poll which said that they are less educated and make less money on average than Joe 6 pack.

Poll Finds Tea Party Backers Wealthier and More Educated - NYTimes.com

[buckman]

Originally Posted by Nebe

Its a shame sarah palin has been chosen to be their voice..... I like their message too, but the messenger is a complete moron...

Wow, PaulS is not going to like hearing this kinda talk

[PaulS]

Originally Posted by buckman

Wow, PaulS is not going to like hearing this kinda talk

Missed this - why the infatuation? That's not healthy.

[Fly Rod]

Originally Posted by Nebe

Its a shame sarah palin has been chosen to be their voice..... I like their message too, but the messenger is a complete moron...

Really! She is laughing all the way to the bank.

[JohnR]

I regard the amount I'm spending now in income tax is at the very high end of fair. I would like to see it go down but current is sustainable. What is not sustainable for me is all the new taxes and fees. What is not sustainable is our country's spending right now. This spending is significantly greater than what it takes in. How can this be good?