white cops vs black criminals

[Jim in CT]

Thanks to the liberal azzholes, the black lives matter protests are occurring all over the country. Something appears to have happened in Dallas. I saw what was a peaceful protest, then something crazy happened, then I saw what looked a lot like 2 dead cops ly9ing in the street. More to come.

God forbid we can be #^&#^&#^&#^&ing honest about these things rather than liberals ALWAYS ALWAYS ALWAYS claiming that meaningful numbers of white cops are going out hunting on the job.

[Jim in CT]

What % of black murder victims are killed by white cops, and what % are killed by other young black men? I don't like the idea of racist cops, but why do the 1%of the cases where the killer is a white cop, get 99% of our attention and energy I don't hear Obama talking about the carnage being experienced every weekend in his hometown of Chicago, but sure as hell, there he is tonight, lamenting white cops.

[Raider Ronnie]

Hillary is loving this #^&#^&#^&#^&
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[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by Raider Ronnie

Hillary is loving this #^&#^&#^&#^&
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No. This may come back to bite her. At some point, people are going to stand up to this evil liberal bullsh*t.

Now they are saying as many as 6 cops were shot.

Obama was on TV today, saying that the incidents of white cops shooting black detainees, are not isolated incidents. What evidence does he have of that? IS that a responsible thing to say?

Liberalism isn't just wrongheaded and stupid. It's evil, bordering on the satanic. John R, who isn't the right-winger that I am, correctly said recently that we are more divided than we have been at any time in decades. Obama says whites in middle America are bitter clingers. He says Republicans gotta stop just hating all the time. And now, he says white cops are part of some large conspiracy to eradicate blacks, or something. Enough...

[Jim in CT]

5 cops assassinated, 5 more wounded.

Congratulations to all the activists who got their followers good and worked up yesterday, by declaring that they are at war with white cops.

[JohnR]

We as a nation need to do better. Black / white, even Italians.

Every time cop goes out their life is on the line. Driving while black shouldn't happen. Professional agitators should not be working up protestors peacefully protesting.

For the love of GOD!! Politicians SHOULD NOT BE WORKING UP PROTESTORS!!!

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by JohnR

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For the love of GOD!! Politicians SHOULD NOT BE WORKING UP PROTESTORS!!!

That's exactly what Obama did. And then he claims to be shocked when this happens.

[PaulS]

Originally Posted by Raider Ronnie

Hillary is loving this #^&#^&#^&#^&
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You really believe that she is happy 5 cops got killed?

[Raider Ronnie]

Originally Posted by PaulS

You really believe that she is happy 5 cops got killed?

Yes.
3 days ago, she was all over the news.
Today, back pages.....
Not like the Clintons are strangers to murder or people who could testify against them accidently commit suicide
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[Fly Rod]

Originally Posted by JohnR

We as a nation need to do better. Black / white, even Italians.

Hey! leave us Italians out of this....we only kill our own....lol..

[Raider Ronnie]

Originally Posted by Fly Rod

Hey! leave us Italians out of this....we only kill our own....lol..

No.
We kill, it's business
Not personal.
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[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by PaulS

You really believe that she is happy 5 cops got killed?

I don't believe that makes her happy, but only because it doesn't help her career.

I firmly believe she (like all liberals at the national level) loves to fan the flame of racial animosity, because it fires up her base.

If she cared about helping blacks, she would tell them to stop having 75% of their kids out of wedlock. But she won't say that, because liberals don't like to tell people that they are generally responsible for their own lot in life. Much better for her, politically speaking, to tell them that it's all some honkey's fault.

[Fly Rod]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

What % of black murder victims are killed by white cops, and what % are killed by other young black men? I don't like the idea of racist cops, but why do the 1%of the cases where the killer is a white cop, get 99% of our attention and energy I don't hear Obama talking about the carnage being experienced every weekend in his hometown of Chicago, but sure as hell, there he is tonight, lamenting white cops.

blacks get the attention because they feel they R picked on and targeted by cops....not true....in 2015 stats of race killed by cops:

white....502
blacks 250
latinos & mexican(brown people) 135

U never here these stats from the news media and they do not broadcast the names of whites and brown people....the left liberal media were going to show that more blacks were killed then white ....they could not find any stats to prove them right.

[PaulS]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

I don't believe that makes her happy, but only because it doesn't help her career.

I firmly believe she (like all liberals at the national level) loves to fan the flame of racial animosity, because it fires up her base.
.

What is like to have so much hate that you actually believe that?

[PaulS]

Originally Posted by Raider Ronnie

Yes.
3 days ago, she was all over the news.
Today, back pages.....
Not like the Clintons are strangers to murder or people who could testify against them accidently commit suicide
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So bc you think she isn't in the news as much today as 2 days ago she somehow is taking joy in the murder of 5 cops - that is crazy.

I forgot they killed Vince Foster

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Originally Posted by PaulS

What is like to have so much hate that you actually believe that?

It's hard to believe actually.

[Slipknot]

Speaking of hate

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-n...-power-8378177


more coming? wtf

How are these hate groups allowed to exist in civilized times? I guess we are not that civilized and the leadership has failed

[Ian]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

I firmly believe she (like all liberals at the national level) loves to fan the flame of racial animosity, because it fires up her base.

If she cared about helping blacks, she would tell them to stop having 75% of their kids out of wedlock. But she won't say that, because liberals don't like to tell people that they are generally responsible for their own lot in life. Much better for her, politically speaking, to tell them that it's all some honkey's fault.

I don't normally speak up in this thread, but I guess I walked myself into this when I jumped on the boards this morning knowing there would be a thread about this. I just wanted to share my observations which are really well summarized by the quote above:

We (everyone) need to stop bundling people together into stereotypes in situations like this. A lot of these recent events have been caused by it; the black community thinking a disproportionate # of cops are out to kill them, cops apparently feeling threatened by a disproportionate # of people of color, the media thinking that a disproportionate # of shootings have some sort of societal prejudice behind them, people thinking that ALL democrats or ALL republicans think the same, and then we finally get last night, where stupid criminals feel like they need to mow down all white police officers... I don't think you get to where we went last night without the above pot stirring that has been going on for years.

Take the damn hate out of it for a minute, get some responsible journalism and community outreach, and stop freaking stirring the pot at every chance you have. Hate breeds hate, and it rarely manifests itself in the same way it was delivered.

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by PaulS

What is like to have so much hate that you actually believe that?

There's nothing else to believe. Just yesterday, Obama said that the cops killing black detainees, "are not isolated incidents". In other words, our President told the nation yesterday (before the investigations of the latest 2 incidents even began), that the cops who killed these guys in the last 2 days, were somehow inspired by, or connected to, previous cops who killed black detainees. He says that, either because he is dumber than stupid, or because he is exploiting the situation for political gain. If there is a third alternative, please explain it to me.

This is a guy (Obama) who said that white people cling to their guns and to their religion because they are bitter and racist.
This is a guy who said "Republicans gotta stop just hatin' all the time".

I know exactly what this man thinks about people like me. We all do. No one who listened to Rev Wright for 20 years has any use for middle America. So sorry if I don't feel compelled to kiss his ring.

He told the nation yesterday that white cops are engaged in a conspiracy to kill them. You bet I hate him. This has been some presidency.

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by Ian

I don't normally speak up in this thread, but I guess I walked myself into this when I jumped on the boards this morning knowing there would be a thread about this. I just wanted to share my observations which are really well summarized by the quote above:

We (everyone) need to stop bundling people together into stereotypes in situations like this. A lot of these recent events have been caused by it; the black community thinking a disproportionate # of cops are out to kill them, cops apparently feeling threatened by a disproportionate # of people of color, the media thinking that a disproportionate # of shootings have some sort of societal prejudice behind them, people thinking that ALL democrats or ALL republicans think the same, and then we finally get last night, where stupid criminals feel like they need to mow down all white police officers... I don't think you get to where we went last night without the above pot stirring that has been going on for years.

Take the damn hate out of it for a minute, get some responsible journalism and community outreach, and stop freaking stirring the pot at every chance you have. Hate breeds hate, and it rarely manifests itself in the same way it was delivered.

OK, so I won't say that we need to address the fact that 75% of black kids are born out of wedlock, because that might hurt someone's feelings...

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by Ian

Take the damn hate out of it for a minute, get some responsible journalism and community outreach, and stop freaking stirring the pot at every chance you have. Hate breeds hate, and it rarely manifests itself in the same way it was delivered.

Obama says that white cops are engaged in a conspiracy to kill all of them. And the liberals say I am the hatemonger.

I'm supposed to believe that there's any moral equivalence between what cops do to blacks, and what they do to each other every day in Chicago.

Our moral compass is so completely screwed up as shown by these comments, that we probably deserve this sonofabitch as our President.

[Ian]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

OK, so I won't say that we need to address the fact that 75% of black kids are born out of wedlock, because that might hurt someone's feelings...

If saying it results in some sort of change, then its worth it. If its just an attempt to further marginalize a group of people by layering a demeaning statistic over their section of the population, you're maybe ONLY accomplishing hurting someones feelings, and that seems like hate to me.

[Fly Rod]

I have to agree with the socialist here.....hillary is not happy about this....they that R in custody R and they should B or

[Ian]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

Obama says that white cops are engaged in a conspiracy to kill all of them. And the liberals say I am the hatemonger.

I'm supposed to believe that there's any moral equivalence between what cops do to blacks, and what they do to each other every day in Chicago.

Our moral compass is so completely screwed up as shown by these comments, that we probably deserve this sonofabitch as our President.

I know a bunch of cops that don't "do" anything to blacks as you say, and a number of black people who don't kill each other every day. As I said before, your stereotyping is doing nothing but furthering an agenda of hate. I think you have some level of a justified point buried in here somewhere, but your hate for the president and apparent hate for black people is making that point VERY difficult to understand.

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by Ian

If saying it results in some sort of change, then its worth it. If its just an attempt to further marginalize a group of people by layering a demeaning statistic over their section of the population, you're maybe ONLY accomplishing hurting someones feelings, and that seems like hate to me.

I don't know that any of us here are legislators who can write laws. I'm pretty sure this is a forum for debate, not a forum for actually forming public policy.

Liberals ignore the actual issues (and solutions) applicable to this community, and instead make it worse, by telling them to blame whitey for everything. Sorry if you don't like hearing that. Fortunately for you, there are mechanisms here to block me so you don't have to see anything I have to say.

I get riled up when ambitious liberal liars work up a mob which turns its fury on innocent heroes.

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by Ian

I know a bunch of cops that don't "do" anything to blacks as you say, and a number of black people who don't kill each other every day. As I said before, your stereotyping is doing nothing but furthering an agenda of hate. I think you have some level of a justified point buried in here somewhere, but your hate for the president and apparent hate for black people is making that point VERY difficult to understand.

"I know a bunch of cops that don't "do" anything to blacks as you say, and a number of black people who don't kill each other every day"

Nobody ever said that 100% of cops do anything, or that 100% of black people kill each other. God's sake. How would you describe what is happening in Chicago, out of curiosity?

"your stereotyping "

Are blacks killing each other in huge numbers in places like Chicago, yes or no? Do they need effective solutions to their plight, yes or no?

[PaulS]

Originally Posted by Fly Rod

blacks get the attention because they feel they R picked on and targeted by cops....not true....in 2015 stats of race killed by cops:

white....502
blacks 250
latinos & mexican(brown people) 135

U never here these stats from the news media and they do not broadcast the names of whites and brown people....the left liberal media were going to show that more blacks were killed then white ....they could not find any stats to prove them right.

Wait until an actuary like Jim sees this and tells you that just looking at raw #s like your doing is totally wrong. Break it down by per 1,000 and then it might have some validity.

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by PaulS

Wait until an actuary like Jim sees this and tells you that just looking at raw #s like your doing is totally wrong. Break it down by per 1,000 and then it might have some validity.

Of course you are correct. Blacks are what, 15% of the population, but are 28% of the people killed by cops?

Paul, I'm honest enough to immediately concede that blacks are disproportionately killed by cops, disproportionately pulled over, and disproportionately put in prison. Those are irrefutable facts.

Here's where I presume you and I differ. I don't think you can look at the data, and conclude that cop racism is responsible for all of the discrepancies. If blacks disproportionately commit violent crimes (for some cultural or socioeconomic reason), that would also explain the data. That's what I think is the driving force here, so naturally (as a problem-solver) that's where I feel we should direct much of our energy and funds. But we don't. We blame whitey. And the results (which are tragic both for blacks and for white cops) speak for themselves.

What do you think? Too much hate in there? Or is there any rational common sense?

[PaulS]

Actually that post doesn't exhibit what I believe is your liberal hate. Of course cop racism is not the reason for the all of the discrepancies - I just believe it is a snmall part of the discrepancy. However, there should be no descrepancy. Some cops are racist (just as some of any job are racist) and that racism needs to be stopped. They prob. approach a black suspect in a manor that leads to these type of incidents.

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by PaulS

Actually that post doesn't exhibit what I believe is your liberal hate. Of course cop racism is not the reason for the all of the discrepancies - I just believe it is a snmall part of the discrepancy. However, there should be no descrepancy. Some cops are racist (just as some of any job are racist) and that racism needs to be stopped. They prob. approach a black suspect in a manor that leads to these type of incidents.

"Actually that post doesn't exhibit what I believe is your liberal hate"

Thanks! I don't hate liberals as a rule (some exceptions), but I really am starting to hate liberalism.

"Of course cop racism is not the reason for the all of the discrepancies - I just believe it is a snmall part of the discrepancy"

We agree 100%.

I have a crucial question for you, I hope you will take a swing at answering it directly?

If cop racism is, as you say, a small contributor to the problem, why do liberals (Obama, Sharpton, Jesse Jackson) spend so much time and energy talking about it? I follow these things more closely than most. It is FAR more common for liberals to talk about the white cop boogeyman, than it is for liberals to address the larger contributors to the problem (which obviously is the gangster and fatherless culture that blacks are embracing).

Yesterday, Obama told blacks that white cops are out to get them. He didn't mention a syllable about the need to raise their kids responsibly and lovingly, he didn't say anything about working hard in school to break the cycle of poverty.

Why is that?

Answer - it doesn't serve his agenda, and that is more important to Obama, than actually helping these people.

Al Sharpton has visited Obama dozens of times. That tells you everything you need to know about where Obama stands on this issue. Any responsible person knows that Sharpton is a lethally dangerous fool.