What it wasn’t a witch hunt

[detbuch]

Originally Posted by Pete F.

What was done affected both campaigns to some extent and the Clinton campaign prior to the election, thru Comey's statements and the NY office leaks, that both damaged Clinton's election opportunity.

Was there a warrant of some sort concocted to investigate the Clinton campaign? Was there an investigation into the Clinton campaign's ties to Russia started by some illegal counter-intelligent effort based on the connection with the foreign Steele dossier which depended on Russian sources?

[PaulS]

Originally Posted by detbuch

Was there an investigation into the Clinton campaign's ties to Russia started by some illegal counter-intelligent effort based on the connection with the foreign Steele dossier which depended on Russian sources?

Did the IG report say there was "illegal counter-intelligence"?

[detbuch]

Originally Posted by PaulS

Did the IG report say there was "illegal counter-intelligence"?

In questioning by Graham, Horowitz let slip that phrase.

[PaulS]

I'll have to see if I can find that.
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[Pete F.]

Originally Posted by detbuch

Was there a warrant of some sort concocted to investigate the Clinton campaign? Was there an investigation into the Clinton campaign's ties to Russia started by some illegal counter-intelligent effort based on the connection with the foreign Steele dossier which depended on Russian sources?

What investigation before the election did the Obama administration and the FBI keep secret and which one was both leaked and spoken of in public?

Who won the 2016 election?

Who's still running against their 2016 opponent in every campaign rally?

[detbuch]

Originally Posted by Pete F.

What investigation before the election did the Obama administration and the FBI keep secret and which one was both leaked and spoken of in public?

Who won the 2016 election?

Who's still running against their 2016 opponent in every campaign rally?

You tried to insert the notion that HRC was equally hurt by what the IG found. That is not true. Nor was there any attempt to investigate her even though there was, in the eyes of "many people" abundant reason to do so.

Fact is, the IG report, in terms of its scope and capability, was very damning of what was done in order to investigate the Trump campaign. Even though you try to minimize it. As Barr correctly said, the flimsiest of evidence was used, and continued to be used long after the FBI knew that the surveillance of Carter Page and the Steele dossier were bogus.

[Got Stripers]

Fact is Barr and Durham met with the IG ahead of the release and they offered nothing to change the findings, siding with Barr doesn’t change anything. No deep state. No coup. Interference by foreign powers continues at Trumps request, through his personal attorney, but let’s focus on the past it’s so much more important than the security of the elections.
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[detbuch]

Originally Posted by Got Stripers

Fact is Barr and Durham met with the IG ahead of the release and they offered nothing to change the findings, siding with Barr doesn’t change anything. No deep state. No coup. Interference by foreign powers continues at Trumps request, through his personal attorney, but let’s focus on the past it’s so much more important than the security of the elections.
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Fact is there was no need to change the facts of the investigation. The only disagreement that Barr and Durham offered was in the notion that there was no evidence of political bias. Barr explained that Horowitz did not have the legal authority to sufficiently explore that issue. Horowitz could only ask questions and accept the answers. He did not have the power to subpoena nor to compel nor to go beyond those working in the DOJ.

As far as the "facts" of the investigation goes, Barr and Durham accepted them, Horowitz's suggestion that there was no political bias is not a factual statement that there was none, but merely a statement that he did not find it. As Barr said, he did not have the tools available to determine it. But that Durham does have the ability to explore the whole issue of criminality well beyond what Horowitz had. And that the Durham investigation will be more thorough and probative of criminality.

And the fact is that Horowitz said that no one involved was exonerated.

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by detbuch

Fact is there was no need to change the facts of the investigation. The only disagreement that Barr and Durham offered was in the notion that there was no evidence of political bias. Barr explained that Horowitz did not have the legal authority to sufficiently explore that issue. Horowitz could only ask questions and accept the answers. He did not have the power to subpoena nor to compel nor to go beyond those working in the DOJ.

As far as the "facts" of the investigation goes, Barr and Durham accepted them, Horowitz's suggestion that there was no political bias is not a factual statement that there was none, but merely a statement that he did not find it. As Barr said, he did not have the tools available to determine it. But that Durham does have the ability to explore the whole issue of criminality well beyond what Horowitz had. And that the Durham investigation will be more thorough and probative of criminality.

And the fact is that Horowitz said that no one involved was exonerated.

does anyone have any clue when Durham will release his report?
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[detbuch]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

does anyone have any clue when Durham will release his report?
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Barr hinted that it might be early to mid next summer. But who knows.

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by detbuch

Barr hinted that it might be early to mid next summer. But who knows.

thanks. long time.
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[Pete F.]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

does anyone have any clue when Durham will release his report?
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When it’s politically expedient
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[scottw]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

thanks. long time.
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no rush....democraps are destroying themselves and turnng trump into a folk hero...it's immense fun to watch...looking forward to Comey, McCabe, Brennan, Clapper, Strozk, Page...maybe even Obama....all going to jail....