Gun-Trained Teacher Accidentally Shoots Gun In Calif. High School Classroom

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Originally Posted by Jim in CT

And I know a few dozen families in Newtown, who would gouge their own eyes out, for the teachers there to have been armed.

Or simply for a properly secured entryway and a lack of easy access to a Bushmaster XM-15.

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by spence

Or simply for a properly secured entryway and a lack of easy access to a Bushmaster XM-15.

Major Hasan used a handgun, and killed 13 soldiers, shot 30 more. I have stated many times that I am convinced there is a reason why a lot of these kooks choose weapons that look like the AR-15, but you or I could walk into an elementary school with a handgun and easily kill 20. I'm not saying I like the AR-15. I'm saying you can make a compelling argument, that banning them, might not do much. But it might save SOME lives (see what I did there? I mentioned the pro AND the con - try it sometime, I promise that your brain won't explode, you might even like how it feels to show some intellectual honesty).

As to the entryway, how did Cruz get in? I never learned that...But my school is secure, has one locked door with a buzzer. I can make up a lot of different stories to get in. I've gone in the middle of the day, rung the buzzer, and told whoever answered that my son forgot his saxophone and I was there to drop it off. They don't confirm before they buzz me in. But security is of course, part of it.

I wouldn't arm teachers. I'd have soldiers.

[JohnR]

Armed teachers should be #24 on the list of solutions and the few that can do it are by far the exception to the rule.

Short version, you have to prevent people that should not have access to a weapon from getting hands on them.

You need to work out a way people that should not have access are flagged, then heard in a court in order not to overly infringe on their rights.

You need to vastly improve training and school security.

There have surely been studies done to come up with alternatives that enhance security.

Proven: Hanging signs stating "Gun Free Zone" are about as effective as signs stating "Drug Free Zones"