Rod Building Stand... - Striper Talk Striped Bass Fishing, Surfcasting, Boating

MountainBreeze · 02-06-2003, 12:33 PM

Does anyone have dimensions for a home-made stand?

mikecc · 02-06-2003, 03:24 PM

Passngas (Chris) did up a artical for john on home made rollers .
John just has not had the time to put it up.
maybe in the next week.

bud8fan · 02-06-2003, 04:14 PM

I am in the process of building one right now. Its a little more elaborate than I had planned but figured I might as well do it right once!
The one I used up until now was just wooden supports and furniture casters. IT works but is much slower than something with nice rollers and adjustability.

I will post pics once I put it all together.

I will say that it pays big dividends when you work in the metals industry and also have a cabinet maker for a brother!!
I have made the bed out of birch plywood. The uprights are 3/16" aluminum. I bought a 12" piece of nylon round stock and turned and cutoff rollers on a lathe at work. I also purchased O-rings to go on them.
Will be adding a motor and chuck onto it once I can get some more aluminum for the bracket.

MountainBreeze · 02-13-2003, 06:18 PM

Well... It ain't much, and it's manual but... this is how it came out:

Good luck w/ your projects!

Regards,
Rob

TheSpecialist · 02-13-2003, 06:47 PM

Nice work Rob. I gotta build something to hold, and tension the thread as well.

mikecc · 02-13-2003, 08:10 PM

I have a bunch of thread tension devices arriving next week.

redcrbbr · 02-13-2003, 11:05 PM

have one on paper, let you know if it works once i make one sunday. pretty simple with roller blade wheels. hope it works. if it does i post the plans.

TheSpecialist · 02-13-2003, 11:05 PM

Fishpart · 02-14-2003, 06:54 AM

Looks Nice !!!

capesams · 02-14-2003, 07:06 AM

MB1.......nice job on the rod wrapper,,,,,getting 3 pics up at once,,,an the pics r so clear that I feel like I'm standing there in front of it.

JohnR · 02-14-2003, 09:08 AM

Sheeeet! I forgot to finnish that so I did real quick - beware of typos on my part. Big thanks

to Chris a/k/a PasNGas for writing this article:

http://www.striped-bass.com/Articles/rodwrapper1.shtml

MountainBreeze · 02-14-2003, 10:43 PM

Thanks folks! I still have to get some springs for the "tensioners" but, in theory, it should do the job.

That is a good article Chris. Thanks for posting it John.

mikecc, where do you get your tensioners from?

Regards,
Rob

BTW:
My Bad... I forgot I wasn't suposed to post 3 pics at once. Dang drugs!

mikecc · 02-15-2003, 06:34 AM

I have a shipment coming direct from Flex Coat.

JohnR · 02-15-2003, 06:55 AM

Nice stand, a little high for me, but that will work nice for you...

Oh, 3 pics are OK. I'd rather see 3 one 1 post than 3 posts each with a pic

Billy 40 · 02-15-2003, 07:23 PM

Mtn1 - do you ever work down there? My house wasn't that neat the first day I walked into it!!! Nice set up.

MountainBreeze · 02-16-2003, 06:35 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Billy 40
Mtn1 - do you ever work down there? My house wasn't that neat the first day I walked into it!!! Nice set up.

HA! Thanks Billy.

Honestly, I really don't do much work down there. I am NO GOOD with wood so there isn't much saw dust. In fact, this stand is darn near the biggest / best thing I have ever made out of wood!

However, the real reason I try and keep it clean is that I am restoring a 69 Camaro and I keep the parts down there.

Cheers,
Rob

BTW:
If you look in the center of the spark plug wires, hanging on the second rack, you will see a Mtn Brz air freshener. That is the air freshener that gave me my screen name!

The following pic, and the understanding of a little ba11 bustin' from friends, should explain it!

jettyjockey18 · 02-16-2003, 10:14 AM

i just bought that very same set of shelves from home depot...

that rod station looks great... btw, what kind of bolts did you use for the thread spools (the ones with the butterfly nuts??)...

MountainBreeze · 02-16-2003, 11:17 AM

jj18,

They are 1/4" X 3". I also bought 1/4" X 4" in case the 3" don't work when I put the springs on.

Hope that helps,
Rob

BTW:
Those racks are great!

bud8fan · 02-16-2003, 11:27 AM

Still have to mount the motor to it but this is what I put together.
took some fabricating but hopefully it will make things easier!

bud8fan · 02-16-2003, 11:33 AM

I guess I need some practice with the camera!!

MountainBreeze · 02-16-2003, 11:34 AM

WOW! Nice work there bud8fan!

Trade???

bud8fan · 02-16-2003, 11:49 AM

Thanks Mtn Brz 1!

I cant take all the credit for this one!! I pretty much copied ideas from what I have seen elsewhere! I would have loved to put it all on an aluminum bed but it wasnt very cost effective!

The base is birch plywood with dado's set in(my brother is a cabinet maker!!)

The aluminum uprights are pieces that were pretty much scrap at my work( I work at a sheetmetal perforating mfg).
We have a very extensive machine shop there and I have friends in the right dept.'s!!
The rollers believe it or not started out as one 3" round X 12"
long piece of nylon(purchased at MSC) it was turned and cut off on the metal lathe at work. As well as the groove to hold the O-rings(MSC also)
I used machined shoulder bolts to hold the rollers which eliminated the need for a bearing.
I am planning on putting some .031" nylon underneath the aluminum plates to help with it sliding along the bed.

THanks again!!

Bill L · 02-16-2003, 12:37 PM

WOW, both are nice setups!

PNG · 02-16-2003, 12:38 PM

Very nice Russ!! I think you are on to something.

The wheel mount bolts are they steel or aluminum? I ask cause I saw a guy who had aluminum bolts and they would heat up, expand and cause the wheels to suddenly stop. If done while rod was still was spinning the rod would "blow up". Nasty nasty.

By seeing what youve built I think you should have no problem adapting the thread carriage.

Good luck
Chris

bud8fan · 02-16-2003, 12:48 PM

Go to this page and scroll down to where it says
Stripper blots/Shoulder screws by Unbrako.

The pic to the right is what they are like except for size that is

I used a screw with a .312 diameter and .375 shoulder with 1/4-20 threads.
The screw is high speed steel and it locks down against the aluminum support. The nylon wheel was drilled to about .315 and has a stainless washer on each side of it.
There is no way the roller would ever seize as far as I can see!
Also if you want it faster you can always put a VERY SMALL drop of light oil(rocket fuel) or some teflon spray onto the shoulder.

here is the webpage. It will open in Adobe Acrobat!

Hope this gives you a better understanding on how the bolt works!

http://www.mscdirect.com/PDF.process?pdf=1943&Keyword=Y

Russ

Billy 40 · 02-16-2003, 01:11 PM

MAn, it must be great to have access to all those tools. I have a friend who had a friend of his Dad's making us a bunch of tools. #1 is the supports. I have a long list of stuff I need or would like made, but the chain of people toget it made is too long.

That set up you made is so sweet though. Before you make teh thread carraige, you should ask some people who have them and see what they would like to change or any improvements they might want to add - this way when your done, you're not kicking yourself saying, dammit, I wish I knkew that before.

Also take a peek at (I'm not sure if I'm allowed to post other site links here) the internet's largest rod building community site, you know, the one that has teh ONLY rodbilding magazine. They have a link to a photo page, in it someone made like a rotating 40 spool thread carriage + some other neat ideas.

REal nice.

PNG · 02-16-2003, 02:22 PM

Got it Russ, sounds like you are all set.

Billy V. didnt you hold a seminar recently? So how'd it go?

Chris

Billy 40 · 02-16-2003, 02:38 PM

Wasn't a seminar, just a get together of rodbuilders from SOL. 12 guys showed up in my basement. Lots of really nice rods, plus someone brought their lathe that they made. Was more of a hang out session for rod builders than anything.

I have another one where we are going to try and cover specific topics next Sunday. Setting up Spinning: cone of flight vs Concept, Casting: traditional vs. spiral wrap. What guides to use, what reel seat, grip lengths, etc. Should be interesting.

NOthing wrong with teh larger "Seminar", but 15 minutes to cover a topic is OK for certain topics, but not for everything. It's also a lot harder to learn in a group of 15-20, or even in an auditorium where someone gives us a presentation for 3 hours. You know what I mean. Small group "meetings" are a much more effective way to learn, but getting people to show up on a semi-consistant basis is nearly impossible.

PNG · 02-16-2003, 02:57 PM

I know what you mean, sounds like a great time though. Wish I was a little closer. I like the fresh ideas. Not to mention meeting new fishing folks.
We had a great time last night in Fairhaven, alot of great prizes and food. Highlight of the evening was some "fishy por*" from fisheye. I had to get his old videos out to watch.
Chris

macojoe · 02-16-2003, 04:00 PM

You guy did a great Job!!!! I thought I did an ok job on mine but after looking at what you have done I am not even going to show mine.
Again Great Job!!
Macojoe