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justplugit · 08-12-2011, 02:18 PM

showing Presidential leadership by cancelling his vacation and calling
back Congress to pound out a real solution to our financial and job crisis.

This of all times is the time to lead.
Where is the "razor sharp" emphasis on job creation?

spence · 08-12-2011, 02:21 PM

You think he's going to fix it next week?
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justplugit · 08-12-2011, 02:25 PM

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Originally Posted by spence

You think he's going to fix it next week?
Posted from my iPhone/Mobile device

A true leader would take the bull by the horns and start imediately.

Problem is , he's got the bull by the tail.

"Manana, manana, manana is good enuff for him."

spence · 08-12-2011, 03:56 PM

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Originally Posted by justplugit

A true leader would take the bull by the horns and start imediately.

Problem is , he's got the bull by the tail.

"Manana, manana, manana is good enuff for him."

It's a moot issue anyway. The GOP has already stated their highest priority is ensuring he's a one term president. You know where their priorities lie.

-spence

justplugit · 08-12-2011, 04:42 PM

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It's a moot issue anyway. The GOP has already stated their highest priority is ensuring he's a one term president. You know where their priorities lie.

-spence

Spence, if he took the reins and brought Congress back, his ratings
would go up. No doubt in my mind.
If he were a true leader, he would be above politics and make his priority
leading America out of the financial debacle and getting the jobless back to work.

Maybe it's "above his pay grade."

If he had his priorities straight and worked on the econmy rather than all
that time spent on Obamacare we would be in a lot better shape.
Unfortunately, it wasn't part of his agenda.

Slipknot · 08-12-2011, 07:28 PM

Have they figured out by now that we cut our own throats by buying imported crap cheap that used to be made here with pride and quality and made to last ?

keep buying junk from overseas and see where that gets us jobwise

pretty soon when we stop buying their crap, they are going to slow down there also since they'll run out of customers

America was good at educating the world, can we still do that? Let's educate ourselves!

Buy American

Slipknot · 08-12-2011, 07:29 PM

A good leader is supposed to set a good example

we need a great leader now

Fly Rod · 08-12-2011, 08:19 PM

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Originally Posted by spence

You think he's going to fix it next week?
Posted from my iPhone/Mobile device

Apparently the french president takes the situation more seriously and he canceled his vacation.

Fly Rod · 08-12-2011, 08:23 PM

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A good leader is supposed to set a good example

we need a great leader now

We do not need a great leader, we just need a leader that is willing to take the country in the right direction.

Spence's leader can not do that.

Raven · 08-12-2011, 08:32 PM

he was born to follow

scottw · 08-13-2011, 05:31 AM

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Originally Posted by spence

It's a moot issue anyway. The GOP has already stated their highest priority is ensuring he's a one term president. You know where their priorities lie.

-spence

"The GOP"....... "stated" this as their highest priority when?....did the Dems NOT want Bush to be a "one term president"? Does any party want the leader of the other party to NOT be a one termer?

such sophistry Spence.....tisk tisk

wait....I found it...shocking

Decision 2010 on msnbc.com
GOP leader's top goal: Make Obama 1-term president

funny... that's what the headline says but nowhere in the article is it "stated" even though it would be stating the obvious would it not?.........MSpenceNBC is great

according to THINKPROGRESS ..GOP Rhetoric Evolves From ‘Jobs Is Highest Priority’ To ‘Nothing More Important Than Abortion’

REALCLEARPOLITICS ....Banning Federal Abortion Funds "Highest" GOP Priority

Cleveland.com GOP's No. 1 priority -- burying the estate tax -- is telling

Bisiness Insider...The GOP's #1 Priority Next Year: Deprive Obamacare Of Its Funding

DailyDemocrat...Time to take GOP back from radical right. Confronting them and wresting the Republican Party from their grip is a matter of the highest priority for the nation.

OUCh!!!!...say it ain't so HUFFPO

Huffington: Obama's Highest Priority Is Campaigning For Reelection

JohnnyD · 08-13-2011, 07:07 AM

I still think the current situation is better than what could have happened:

scottw · 08-13-2011, 07:21 AM

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I still think the current situation is better than what could have happened:

cartoons and cut and paste to say thing could be worse?...c'mon JD...always back to Sarah isn't it?.....what did you paste there on Sarah's head? did she shoot the bear?...is it antique?...maybe hubby got it or granmpa passed it down? Why didn't the astute reporter ask..."who shot that bear right there on the floor at my feet"?

justplugit · 08-13-2011, 07:54 AM

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I still think the current situation is better than what could have happened:

Shear speculation without any fact whatsoever.

JohnnyD · 08-13-2011, 08:00 AM

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Originally Posted by justplugit

Shear speculation without any fact whatsoever.

Precisely why I said "I still think"

spence · 08-13-2011, 08:07 AM

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Shear speculation without any fact whatsoever.

As least I think Obama is doing what he thinks he should do and what's best for the Country. Aside from a few elements of the Health Care bill, both O's foreign and domestic policy has actually been pretty moderate.

Palin would have likely been put in a sack for 4 years, but I fear McCain would have been trying to do what he thought others would be wanting them to do just like in the campaign.

Unless someone shoved some fire in his face to wake him from the Black Sleep of Kali Ma...he could have just been a Right Wing zombie

-spence

spence · 08-13-2011, 08:13 AM

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"The GOP"....... "stated" this as their highest priority when?....did the Dems NOT want Bush to be a "one term president"? Does any party want the leader of the other party to NOT be a one termer?

The GOP has worked against just about every Obama action since his inauguration on the basis that he fundamentally runs counter to American values. It's not even about policy...

You sure didn't see this with Bush in either election.

McConnell probably made the strongest direct statement as a GOP leader, but it's been underneath everything since day one...

-spence

justplugit · 08-13-2011, 08:18 AM

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Precisely why I said "I still think"

You come up with some good stuff JD, but in this case there
are no facts to back up what you THINK might have been.

justplugit · 08-13-2011, 08:28 AM

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Originally Posted by spence

As least I think Obama is doing what he thinks he should do and what's best for the Country. Aside from a few elements of the Health Care bill, both O's foreign and domestic policy has actually been pretty moderate.

You have your facts to back up your thinking but another fact is he's
not doing what's best for the country by taking a vacation while
Rome Burns.

You say a week won't make a difference. That's our problem,
politicians are always putting off tackling the tough problems
until there's a crisis and then it's too late.

No time like the present.

JohnnyD · 08-13-2011, 08:43 AM

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Originally Posted by justplugit

You come up with some good stuff JD, but in this case there
are no facts to back up what you THINK might have been.

Nor are there facts to the contrary. I was unaware that posts with opinions are now unacceptable.

Jim in CT · 08-13-2011, 09:38 AM

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It's a moot issue anyway. The GOP has already stated their highest priority is ensuring he's a one term president. You know where their priorities lie.

-spence

As a Republican, let me say that's precisely where their priorities should be. Obama could not be doing more damage if he was a paid Al Queda agent.

Spence, can you please tell me what evidence there is, that liberal economics are a good idea? Can you tell me a liberal state that's thriving? Can you show me a state that isn't suffering because of union benefits? Can you show me an inner city, dominated by Democrats, that is improving? How many countries in Western Europe are thriving?

The Dad Fisherman · 08-13-2011, 09:51 AM

Their priority should be fixing the country...I'm not happy paying them their salary to spend the next year and a half focusing on removing the president instead of working on the issues that need to be fixed.

just so we can repeat the process the next 4 years w/ the roles reversed.

that is the #1 problem w/ politics....they spend more time trying to screw the other party than working for US.....

spence · 08-13-2011, 10:05 AM

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Obama could not be doing more damage if he was a paid Al Queda agent.

Number 2!

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Spence, can you please tell me what evidence there is, that liberal economics are a good idea?

Well, looking at the past century of tax increases, debt increases, regulation increases and bloated government...and despite all our current problems...we've still managed to build the most prosperous and successful nation in the history of the modern world.

Can't be all bad.

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Can you tell me a liberal state that's thriving?

Probably not. All their federal tax dollars are sucked away and sent to the Red states to fund projects that create jobs

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Can you show me a state that isn't suffering because of union benefits?

Most states are suffering because of bad management. I've never advocated union excess. I'd also note that most state and municipal budget issues were created at the local level...

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Can you show me an inner city, dominated by Democrats, that is improving?

Can you show me an inner city dominated by Republicans improving or not?

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How many countries in Western Europe are thriving?

Off the top of my head I can think of one that has extensive social programs that's doing great...GERMANY.

-spence

Raven · 08-13-2011, 10:07 AM

of course this question will be asked until 2111

justplugit · 08-13-2011, 10:33 AM

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Nor are there facts to the contrary. I was unaware that posts with opinions are now unacceptable.

Sure opinions are acceptable.

It was my opinion on the same post that you come up
with some good stuff.

scottw · 08-13-2011, 11:05 AM

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McConnell probably made the strongest direct statement as a GOP leader, but it's been underneath everything since day one...

-spence

sooo...as usual you are just making things up and stating them as fact

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" The GOP has already stated their highest priority is ensuring he's a one term president". -spence

scottw · 08-13-2011, 11:08 AM

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Number 2!

Well, looking at the past century of tax increases, debt increases, regulation increases and bloated government...and despite all our current problems...we've still managed to build the most prosperous and successful nation in the history of the modern world.

Can't be all bad.

Probably not. All their federal tax dollars are sucked away and sent to the Red states to fund projects that create jobs

Most states are suffering because of bad management. I've never advocated union excess. I'd also note that most state and municipal budget issues were created at the local level...

Can you show me an inner city dominated by Republicans improving or not?

Off the top of my head I can think of one that has extensive social programs that's doing great...GERMANY.

-spence

this is stupidity