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Old 06-25-2019, 11:03 AM   #31
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How about we just treat the kids in our care today like human beings as a start.

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https://www.nbcnews.com/news/latino/...aling-n1021151. Must be fake news. Almost 300 migrant children have been removed from a border patrol facility in Texas after media reports of lawyers describing ďappallingĒ and potentially dangerous conditions, Department of Homeland Security officials told NBC News. size=1]Posted from my iPhone/Mobile device[/size]
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Old 06-25-2019, 01:07 PM   #33
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Why would these kids be put in this predicament?
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Old 06-25-2019, 01:21 PM   #34
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You would get better treatment as a prisoner of war, then the children being held at Trumps ďsummer campsĒ for immigrant children.
You're really going to compare POWs and immigrant children?

I'd call you a complete and total retard except that would be an insult to to retarded people.

You have some serious mental issues to even make that comparison.From every vet out there here's a big GO EFF YOURSELF!
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Old 06-25-2019, 01:26 PM   #35
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Never debated or denied there are many (not sure anyone has quantified) kids here that were brought here under questionably circumstances, doesnít change the fact some 3000 have been separated and are living in deplorable circumstances. Trump is ok giving money to farmers to make up for the hurt he put on them due to tariffs or rob other funds to build the wall, Iím pretty sure a lot could have been done well before this point if he and his GOP boot lickers gave a damn.
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Old 06-25-2019, 02:36 PM   #36
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Never debated or denied there are many (not sure anyone has quantified) kids here that were brought here under questionably circumstances, doesnít change the fact some 3000 have been separated and are living in deplorable circumstances. Trump is ok giving money to farmers to make up for the hurt he put on them due to tariffs or rob other funds to build the wall, Iím pretty sure a lot could have been done well before this point if he and his GOP boot lickers gave a damn.
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youíre pretty sure a lot
could have been done. how
about instead of a wall, we
build a 1,500 mile
long day care center?

where would
you put them? whats the alternative?
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Old 06-25-2019, 02:49 PM   #37
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Immigration turned into a political wedge issue to divide the country leading to an inability or unwillingness of our elected leaders to address the issues. Trump didn't invent the problem but he sure as hell has made it a lot worse.
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Old 06-25-2019, 02:56 PM   #38
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Immigration turned into a political wedge issue to divide the country leading to an inability or unwillingness of our elected leaders to address the issues. Trump didn't invent the problem but he sure as hell has made it a lot worse.
Jeff,if you are paying attention then you should know the amount of people trying to enter our country illegally has grown exponentially. Some want to deny it and cater to the offenders. Others are trying to prevent it altogether. Nobody should be surprised that itís getting worse. This could have been prevented but as you point out, itís political grandstanding at its finest.
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Old 06-25-2019, 02:58 PM   #39
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Immigration turned into a political wedge issue to divide the country leading to an inability or unwillingness of our elected leaders to address the issues. Trump didn't invent the problem but he sure as hell has made it a lot worse.
itís trumps fault that weíre seeing a surge in the
number of families as a percentage of people crossing?

Spence, what should he have done, when faced with all
these families? where would
you have told him to put them?
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Jeff,if you are paying attention then you should know the amount of people trying to enter our country illegally has grown exponentially.
I'm paying enough attention to know this isn't true.
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Old 06-25-2019, 03:19 PM   #41
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I'm paying enough attention to know this isn't true.
itís over 100,000 a month who are caught. what should we do with that number?
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Old 06-25-2019, 03:21 PM   #42
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I'm paying enough attention to know this isn't true.
https://www.cnbc.com/2018/04/05/cros...-year-ago.html
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a little old and not a lot of data, but...
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Old 06-25-2019, 03:24 PM   #43
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a little old and not a lot of data, but...
This doesn't back up SD's remark.
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compassion human dignity access to clean water a shower clean clothes medical care recreation

are basic provisions provided to every Inmate in the United States and POW or terrorist captured by the USA

blind to their crime color or where they are from..

And yet here the Trump supports can't figure that out?? they make excuse after excuse about who's fault it is

All the while accepting theses conditions as Part of the deserved outcome for those who dare try to come to America .. regardless of age or ability to make the choice ....

Another shining example of how to make America great Again
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This doesn't back up SD's remark.
no, itís not increasing exponentially. but itís surging, very significantly. thatís not trumps fault, is it?
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Old 06-25-2019, 04:16 PM   #46
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no, itís not increasing exponentially. but itís surging, very significantly. thatís not trumps fault, is it?
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The asylum seekers have been up and yes Trump has contributed significantly to the problem.
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Look at numbers from past administrations and today, the difference is Trump and policy, stats canít lie like Trump. If it looks like a duck, quacks like a duck and waddles like a duck; guess what itís a duck.
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The asylum seekers have been up and yes Trump has contributed significantly to the problem.
i guess youíre right, the surging economy makes america that much more attractive to people
everywhere else...you walked right into that one.

since iím pretty sure thatís not what you meant, please tell
us why itís Trumps fault that many more illegals are crossing?


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Old 06-25-2019, 05:13 PM   #49
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Look at numbers from past administrations and today, the difference is Trump and policy, stats canít lie like Trump. If it looks like a duck, quacks like a duck and waddles like a duck; guess what itís a duck.
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how is it trumps doing, that immigrant crossings are up? i thought he was attacking our democratic institutions, and according to you, he was weakening our global status? if he has turned america into a brutal dictatorship, and an
international laughingstock, why are more people
risking everything to come here?

canít have it both ways, GS...
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Old 06-25-2019, 05:17 PM   #50
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Iíve asked the TDS sufferers here what the alternative is, where should we put the tens of thousands of people
we catch every month. i keep asking that obvious question, i havenít seen a syllable in terms of a response.

newsflash..:if you have no better alternative, that means heís making the best of a rotten situation. and one that the parents, not our president, created.
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Old 06-25-2019, 05:21 PM   #51
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by the way, dna tests have shown that about one third of the children who cross, are not related to the adults they cross with. these are fake families, sometimes
with rented children to give the adults a better shot at being allowed to stay. is it a good idea to leave children with adults who
would exploit them this way?

this is a sick situation, it shouldnít be political. Seal
the border, discourage people
from coming illegally, and allow more legal
immigrants. thatís the answer, itís not partisan, itís not complicated, itís not unfair.

our current policies encourage the criminal exploitation of little kids.

https://pluralist.com/dna-tests-reve...ren-unrelated/
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how is it trumps doing, that immigrant crossings are up? i thought he was attacking our democratic institutions, and according to you, he was weakening our global status? if he has turned america into a brutal dictatorship, and an
international laughingstock, why are more people
risking everything to come here?

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Are you really arguing his policies havenít contributed to this situation? Additionally I started this thread not to debate cause but to call out this administration for doing nothing to address this and itís been a long time since this has been a problem.
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Are you really arguing his policies havenít contributed to this situation? Additionally I started this thread not to debate cause but to call out this administration for doing nothing to address this and itís been a long time since this has been a problem.
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what policies has trump
enacted, which would
encourage more illegals to come? i keep hearing that Trump is a xenophobe. now youíre saying heís encouraging more to
come here.

wait, maybe he hates them so
much that he encourages them
to come, so that he can intern the children in concentration camps? is that it? heís luring them
here, just to brutalize them?

thereís
no reason why these people
canít have toothpaste. as to showers? sorry, some
months we catch over 100,000 of them. we donít have facilities to hold that many people
where they can shower daily and be comfortable. no such facility exists, and would take.a long time
to build it.

where would
you put them?

trump did nothing to address it? youíre right he should have gotten the wall when the gop controlled congress.
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You're really going to compare POWs and immigrant children?

I'd call you a complete and total retard except that would be an insult to to retarded people.

You have some serious mental issues to even make that comparison.From every vet out there here's a big GO EFF YOURSELF!
Go read the guidelines of the Geneva convention and tell me then these kids arenít been denied some of the basics. Here is just a snippet for those that like to throw insults without understanding the point of my post. Have a good day, I wonít get down to that level to exchange insults.

POWs must be treated humanely in all circumstances. They are protected against any act of violence, as well as against intimidation, insults, and public curiosity. IHL also defines minimum conditions of detention covering such issues as accommodation, food, clothing, hygiene and medical care.
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Clearly the best president of our lifetime. Thank him for your good nights rest snowflakes.
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Yup a man (white Bill Cosby) our children can all look up to🤣
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we didnít elect him to
be a role model, but to improve things. hard to deny that things are better now.

when i was at aetna, we had a CEO who was well known to be a world class pr*ck. but he was a terrific CEO.
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We didnít elect him and by that I mean I didnít vote for a man with no morals, someone with a history of screwing others for personal gain, a pig and sexual predator, narcissist to the extreme, habitual lier, a man incapable of treating anyone with respect, the negative descriptive adjectives are endless; I voted for the lesser evil. If this is the new norm we are in deep s*hit, if nothing about the means troubles you, then feel free to ignore the wrong to get that good feeling about the economy. Trump island isnít as good as you think it is, nor is the robust economy all his doing, but keep those blinders firmly in place and you will not see anything that disturbs you.
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Sticks and stones now? Go cry a river.
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I call a spade a spade, Trump calls all Mexicans spades, bad hombres, mostly rapists and gang members. Then we have the other immigrants coming from the sh*thole countryís. Then all the lies just endless and whatís more troubling is that his base continues to believe them, like cult members. Love the reporting of numerous ICE agent interviews, where many are longing for the Obama term rules and clarity and ease of dealing with immigrants.
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