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Old 07-09-2018, 08:40 PM   #1
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Judge Kavanaugh

I wanted Barrett.

I'll take a guy educated at Yale who teaches law at Yale, Harvard (hired by Elana Kagan) and Georgetown. I like how he horsed around with his daughters during his speech. And I like his Catholicism. And I like the normalcy of a guy who finds time to coach his daughter's basketball team, where he is known as Coach K.

Let the war begin. Saw Corey Boker on MSNBC claiming that there was a 99% chance that we're all going to die if he gets confirmed. That's a slight exaggeration.
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Old 07-09-2018, 08:44 PM   #2
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I wanted Barrett.

I'll take a guy educated at Yale who teaches law at Yale, Harvard (hired by Elana Kagan) and Georgetown. I like how he horsed around with his daughters during his speech. And I like his Catholicism. And I like the normalcy of a guy who finds time to coach his daughter's basketball team, where he is known as Coach K.

Let the war begin. Saw Corey Boker on MSNBC claiming that there was a 99% chance that we're all going to die if he gets confirmed. That's a slight exaggeration.

Well if it was Joe Biden announcing the pick, Kavanaugh's his wife would at least get a back rub from "Uncle Joe".

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Old 07-10-2018, 06:37 AM   #3
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Judge Kavanaugh Congress should pass a law giving presidents immunity from civil suits and criminal investigations and prosecutions until they leave office.

Interesting his reasoning POTUS is a hard job ..
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Old 07-10-2018, 07:30 AM   #4
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Judge Kavanaugh Congress should pass a law giving presidents immunity from civil suits and criminal investigations and prosecutions until they leave office.

Interesting his reasoning POTUS is a hard job ..
I see you were watching MSNBC last night.

That has the appearance of being self-serving from Trump's point of view, but we're a million miles away from Trump being indicted and the question going to SCOTUS. But it's a good point.

From what I can tell, people are upset because Kafanaugh thiks that judges should adhere to the rulebook (the Constitution), and not invent law or invent rights that aren't enumerated in that document. To the left, that is controversial.

My senator, Richard Blumenthal, is afraid women will lose their rights. An overturn of Roe V Wade (we're also a million miles away from that) doesn't outlaw abortion. It sends the question to the states. Very., very few states would outlaw abortion.
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Judge Kavanaugh Congress should pass a law giving presidents immunity from civil suits and criminal investigations and prosecutions until they leave office.

Interesting his reasoning POTUS is a hard job ..
What's even more interesting is that it was in reference to Jones v Clinton.

Guess it made perfect sense back then, now, Not so Much

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What's even more interesting is that it was in reference to Jones v Clinton.

Guess it made perfect sense back then, now, Not so Much
It was heroic then.
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Old 07-10-2018, 07:50 AM   #7
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Brett Kavanaugh, who President Donald Trump nominated to replace the retiring Supreme Court justice Anthony Kennedy, previously contributed to a 1998 report that made a case for President Bill Clinton's impeachment.
This experience has shaped Kavanaugh's belief that presidents should not be indicted or distracted by investigations while in office.
"Whether the Constitution allows indictment of a sitting President is debatable," he has said.
Kavanaugh instead believes impeachment is the proper way to deal with a president's serious and "dastardly" misbehavior.
Donald Trump's pick for a seat on the Supreme Court is Brett Kavanaugh, a man who holds strong opinions on whether a president should be indicted or impeached.

A Yale Law graduate, Kavanaugh started his career as an associate counsel with special prosecutor Kenneth Starr, where he helped draft the report that recommended Clinton should be impeached for having an extramarital affair with White House intern Monica Lewinsky.

The report laid out 11 possible grounds for impeachment, including how misleading the public and lying to staff amounted to obstruction of justice. These findings have become particularly relevant as special counsel Robert Mueller, who is heading the Russia investigation, considers actions Trump has taken that could possibly be considered obstruction of justice.

But despite his experience co-authoring the report, or rather because of it, Kavanaugh has become an ardent supporter of a president's power.

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I see you were watching MSNBC last night.

That has the appearance of being self-serving from Trump's point of view, but we're a million miles away from Trump being indicted and the question going to SCOTUS. But it's a good point.
Actually it's being reported pretty much everywhere.

As for a million miles from Trump being indicted, I think we're a few months away from several very high profile indictments, maybe even family. Unless Mueller has something just blatantly criminal against Trump I doubt he'll try and indict a sitting President...let Congress impeach him.
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Actually it's being reported pretty much everywhere.

As for a million miles from Trump being indicted, I think we're a few months away from several very high profile indictments. Unless Mueller has something just blatantly criminal against Trump I doubt he'll try and indict a sitting President...let Congress impeach him.
"I think we're a few months away from several very high profile indictments"

Which doesn't contradict what I said...

"let Congress impeach him"

If there's an impeachable offense, sure.

As to Kavanaugh. He said last night that Elana Kagan hired him to teach law at Harvard. Isn't that interesting...

You said you expected it to be civil. We shall soon see. The protesters were out in force immediately, and I saw Princess Liz Warren, raising her fist at their podium, showing her solidarity. It appears that Princess Lie-awatha wants the scalp of the Great White Chief, and that her ultimate goal, is his tee-pee.

All the women will either be dead or in internment camps, if you listen to Sen Blumenthal or Sen Corey Booker, who apparently get their tin foil hats at the same store.

Trump publicly offered to donate $1 million to Warren's favorite charity, if she'd take a DNA test. She hasn't taken him up on it yet, I can't imagine why.
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No president has ever consulted more widely or talked with more people from more backgrounds to seek input about a supreme court nomination. Mr. President,

from last night doesn't sound very independent He learns quick you must Praise the Donald
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You said you expected it to be civil. We shall soon see. The protesters were out in force immediately, and I saw Princess Liz Warren, raising her fist at their podium, showing her solidarity. It appears that Princess Lie-awatha wants the scalp of the Great White Chief, and that her ultimate goal, is his tee-pee.

All the women will either be dead or in internment camps, if you listen to Sen Blumenthal or Sen Corey Booker, who apparently get their tin foil hats at the same store.

Trump publicly offered to donate $1 million to Warren's favorite charity, if she'd take a DNA test. She hasn't taken him up on it yet, I can't imagine why.
This made me chuckle the other day......well....until I realized they would be heading to the polls someday.

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Trump publicly offered to donate $1 million to Warren's favorite charity, if she'd take a DNA test. She hasn't taken him up on it yet, I can't imagine why.
back it the day you dropped your pants ..if your pencil was sharpened you were taken away ... Now the POTUS is going down this road with no Idea of History .. maybe he thinks he can force anyone of Native America heritage wear a feather as proof
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"I think we're a few months away from several very high profile indictments"

Which doesn't contradict what I said...

"let Congress impeach him"

If there's an impeachable offense, sure.

As to Kavanaugh. He said last night that Elana Kagan hired him to teach law at Harvard. Isn't that interesting...

You said you expected it to be civil. We shall soon see. The protesters were out in force immediately, and I saw Princess Liz Warren, raising her fist at their podium, showing her solidarity. It appears that Princess Lie-awatha wants the scalp of the Great White Chief, and that her ultimate goal, is his tee-pee.

All the women will either be dead or in internment camps, if you listen to Sen Blumenthal or Sen Corey Booker, who apparently get their tin foil hats at the same store.

Trump publicly offered to donate $1 million to Warren's favorite charity, if she'd take a DNA test. She hasn't taken him up on it yet, I can't imagine why.
She didn't put it in a book
In his 1987 autobiography "The Art of the Deal," Donald Trump repeated the lie that his family was from Sweden. He later admitted that was untrue, and claimed German heritage in later books.

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back it the day you dropped your pants ..if your pencil was sharpened you were taken away ... Now the POTUS is going down this road with no Idea of History .. maybe he thinks he can force anyone of Native America heritage wear a feather as proof

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from last night doesn't sound very independent He learns quick you must Praise the Donald
Are you referring to the fact that Kavanaugh was nice to Trump, on the eve that Trump nominated him to the Supreme Court? Because Kavanaugh was gracious, that means he can't ever stand up to Trump?
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back it the day you dropped your pants ..if your pencil was sharpened you were taken away ... Now the POTUS is going down this road with no Idea of History .. maybe he thinks he can force anyone of Native America heritage wear a feather as proof
Yeah, because this is the same exact thing. The woman lied, and she got rich off the lie. She checked off Native American on her application at Harvard, and they hired her at $400k a year.

And you can only fault the person calling her out for her lies? She isn't culpable at all? She didn't do anything wrong in your eyes?
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In his 1987 autobiography "The Art of the Deal," Donald Trump repeated the lie that his family was from Sweden. He later admitted that was untrue, and claimed German heritage in later books.
No, she put it on an application for a job paying $400,000 a year.

Trump is a scumbag. So is Warren.

See? I can criticize a liar on my side, and my head didn't explode. Can you do it? Can you call Warren what she is?
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Yeah, because this is the same exact thing. The woman lied, and she got rich off the lie. She checked off Native American on her application at Harvard, and they hired her at $400k a year.

And you can only fault the person calling her out for her lies? She isn't culpable at all? She didn't do anything wrong in your eyes?
Jim, there's no evidence her heritage had any impact on her employment at Harvard.
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She didn't put it in a book
unless you count her recipes from the book Pow Wow Chow

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The only evidence is that she misrepresented herself for to get a leg up on a potential job. Not the worst person but certainly a lack of character.
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Why would I equate Warren with Trump?
While I don’t agree with her on many political issues I think she has far more integrity than Donnie Bonespur
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Jim, there's no evidence her heritage had any impact on her employment at Harvard.
So why do you suppose, she checked that box? Are you that obtuse?

Harvard, in some kind of professor profile, made mention of it.
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You would if you were honest.

But you can't., You can't bring yourself to say "she lied to get a job she wanted". everyone in the world knows that's exactly what happened.
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So why do you suppose, she checked that box? Are you that obtuse?

Harvard, in some kind of professor profile, made mention of it.
You’re repeating false statements and think I should be willing to agree otherwise I’m wrong

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Harvard Law School professor Charles Fried, who served as U.S. Solicitor General under President Ronald Reagan and was part of the committee that put Warren in a tenure position, said in a written statement that her ethnicity never came up during the process.

Fried, who donated $250 to Warren's campaign, told the Republican, a Springfield, Mass., newspaper, in 2012, "This stuff I hear that she was an affirmative action hire, got some kind of a boost, it is so ludicrous and so desperately stupid and ignorant, it just boggles the mind."
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If you don't agree with Kavanaugh's nomination at the very least pick another name off the list of 25 that you would support and say why.

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So why do you suppose, she checked that box? Are you that obtuse?

Harvard, in some kind of professor profile, made mention of it.
My understanding is she checked the box AFTER she was hired filling out some paperwork they use to document minority employees. The person who hired her has publicly stated they had no knowledge of any minority status and it wasn't a factor.

I think she genuinely believes she has some ancestry. This is just a political hit job to smear a woman with a pretty impressive resume.
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You would if you were honest.

But you can't., You can't bring yourself to say "she lied to get a job she wanted". everyone in the world knows that's exactly what happened.
I find it interesting that Jim has absolutely no way to know her genealogy, yet he claims to know exactly what happened. Catholic virtue? Ha.
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Are you referring to the fact that Kavanaugh was nice to Trump, on the eve that Trump nominated him to the Supreme Court? Because Kavanaugh was gracious, that means he can't ever stand up to Trump?
that lines not being Gracious its kowtow

this one is Gracious Mr. President, I am grateful to you and I am humbled by your confidence in me. Thank you.
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Yeah, because this is the same exact thing. The woman lied, and she got rich off the lie. She checked off Native American on her application at Harvard, and they hired her at $400k a year.

And you can only fault the person calling her out for her lies? She isn't culpable at all? She didn't do anything wrong in your eyes?
this is the same guy who offered $5 million donation if President Obama released “his college records and applications” and his “passport applications and records.”


did she do the work ? or are you saying they just paid her 400k for being an Indian
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