$5 & $7

[Pete F.]

It was truly nefarious of the Democrats to get elected and then force Trump to try to subvert the transfer of power so they could investigate him for it.
If the president or Congress had the power to magically reduce the price of gasoline by $1/gal, then I'd agree they should do that first and then return to the January 6 investigation. In reality, gas prices are determined by a global market, not by governmental fiat (thank God).

The last time that was done, it was by a guy who gave arms and god knows what else to raise the price of oil.
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[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by Pete F.

It was truly nefarious of the Democrats to get elected and then force Trump to try to subvert the transfer of power so they could investigate him for it.
If the president or Congress had the power to magically reduce the price of gasoline by $1/gal, then I'd agree they should do that first and then return to the January 6 investigation. In reality, gas prices are determined by a global market, not by governmental fiat (thank God).

The last time that was done, it was by a guy who gave arms and god knows what else to raise the price of oil.
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sadly for you, at some point americans care about whether their own lives are getting better or worse under the current party in control ( democrats across the board in DC), more than they care about how big a brat the previous potus was.

if potus could wave a magic wand and reduce gas prices to $1, i don’t believe he’d do it. they need these gas prices to make regular americans even consider renewable energy. They need this to expedite the “incredible evolution” Biden says we’re in the middle of.

Regardless, after two years of liberalism, everybody sees that everybody’s life is astronomically harder and more expensive, and americans will vote accordingly in a few months.

You blamed Trump very specifically for covid, because it happened on his watch. Fine. Now it’s your turn to be on the receiving end of that logic. How’s it feel? Good or bad?
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[Pete F.]

Why would Mo Brooks wear a bulletproof vest to a peaceful protest and later ask for a pardon?
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[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by Pete F.

Why would Mo Brooks wear a bulletproof vest to a peaceful protest and later ask for a pardon?
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Trumplicans at the new york times say Biden is an anchor around the necks of the democrat party going into midterms. and that he needs to be cut loose for 2024. and that the january 6th presentation was their last chance to prevent a trouncing in november.

https://www.foxnews.com/media/new-yo...ncerned-bidens

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[Pete F.]

Generation that grew up laughing uproariously and without any sense of embarrassment at Flip Wilson in drag on prime time as Geraldine...

...now worried what will happen if kids see a drag show.
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[Pete F.]

I remember when gas was cheap.

We were locked down and couldn’t go anywhere. None of us had jobs or paychecks, 500,000 died, our leader at that time mused about injecting bleach to stop a virus. Same guy that wanted to date his daughter.

If ain’t perfect yet, just better.
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[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by Pete F.

I remember when gas was cheap.

We were locked down and couldn’t go anywhere. None of us had jobs or paychecks, 500,000 died, our leader at that time mused about injecting bleach to stop a virus. Same guy that wanted to date his daughter.

If ain’t perfect yet, just better.
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this post should be your epitaph. Encapsulates you beautifully.

He asked about possibly using bleach, because bleach is one of rhe things that kills the virus. He didn’t tell people to drink bleach, he just wondered if there was a way for scientists to figure out how to use it effectively.

We treat cancer very frequently with radiation. Back before it was common, I wonder how you’d have reacted if someone ( especially a republican) suggested that people stricken with cancer, could be cured by injecting radioactive material i to their bodies.

Speaking of which, your guy explicitly said we’re gonna cure cancer if he won. Well, he won. How’s that promise going?

oh and here’s a king tracking has prices. For a couple years before 2020, king before covid had any effect, average price was around $2.50 a gallon. So it’s not all covid fault that gas is now $5.

https://www.eia.gov/dnav/pet/hist/Le...TE_NUS_DPG&f=W

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[Raider Ronnie]

Originally Posted by Pete F.

I remember when gas was cheap.

We were locked down and couldn’t go anywhere. None of us had jobs or paychecks, 500,000 died, our leader at that time mused about injecting bleach to stop a virus. Same guy that wanted to date his daughter.

If ain’t perfect yet, just better.
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-gas was cheap before Covid (look it up)
- some of you are “non essential” I never missed a day of work had my busiest charter year ever
-500.000 mostly old people died. My wife & I, no shots- no Covid. A half dozen relatives shots & boosters and their funeral memorial cards hang on my refrigerator

[wdmso]

Originally Posted by Raider Ronnie

-gas was cheap before Covid (look it up)
- some of you are “non essential” I never missed a day of work had my busiest charter year ever
-500.000 mostly old people died. My wife & I, no shots- no Covid. A half dozen relatives shots & boosters and their funeral memorial cards hang on my refrigerator

You live a an odd bubble called denial


Trump Asks Saudi Arabia to Pump More Oil, Citing High Prices

2018



Trump told Saudi: Cut oil supply or lose U.S. military support -
Aug 2020

In an April 2 phone call, Trump told Saudi Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman that unless the Organization of the Petroleum Exporting Countries (OPEC) started cutting oil production,



Oil Nations, Prodded by Trump, Reach Deal to Slash Production
2020


Oil-producing nations on Sunday agreed to the largest production cut ever negotiated, in an unprecedented coordinated effort by Russia, Saudi Arabia and the United States to stabilize oil prices and, indirectly, global financial markets.


But Biden’s cut oil production ya ok Try again.., the facts are against you


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[Pete F.]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

this post should be your epitaph. Encapsulates you beautifully.

He asked about possibly using bleach, because bleach is one of rhe things that kills the virus. He didn’t tell people to drink bleach, he just wondered if there was a way for scientists to figure out how to use it effectively.

We treat cancer very frequently with radiation. Back before it was common, I wonder how you’d have reacted if someone ( especially a republican) suggested that people stricken with cancer, could be cured by injecting radioactive material i to their bodies.

Speaking of which, your guy explicitly said we’re gonna cure cancer if he won. Well, he won. How’s that promise going?

oh and here’s a king tracking has prices. For a couple years before 2020, king before covid had any effect, average price was around $2.50 a gallon. So it’s not all covid fault that gas is now $5.

https://www.eia.gov/dnav/pet/hist/Le...TE_NUS_DPG&f=W

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The Stable Genius and his vast medical knowledge, just one of his many fabulist claims, mislead lots of fools. Between Ivermectin, bleach, hydroxychloroquine, chloroquine, and azithromycin, lots of people suffered unnecessarily.

WDMSO did a good job explaining some of the reasons oil prices are high worldwide, though apparently the socialist side of you approves of government setting prices and manipulating markets.

You’ll have to wait for Joe’s second term for the Cancer cure, he’s been busy
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[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by wdmso

You live a an odd bubble called denial


Trump Asks Saudi Arabia to Pump More Oil, Citing High Prices

2018



Trump told Saudi: Cut oil supply or lose U.S. military support -
Aug 2020

In an April 2 phone call, Trump told Saudi Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman that unless the Organization of the Petroleum Exporting Countries (OPEC) started cutting oil production,



Oil Nations, Prodded by Trump, Reach Deal to Slash Production
2020


Oil-producing nations on Sunday agreed to the largest production cut ever negotiated, in an unprecedented coordinated effort by Russia, Saudi Arabia and the United States to stabilize oil prices and, indirectly, global financial markets.


But Biden’s cut oil production ya ok Try again.., the facts are against you


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many here have posted the data. oil production is down. facts don’t care if you like them or not.

you’re denying that the progressive left is hostile to fossil fuels.
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[wdmso]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

many here have posted the data. oil production is down. facts don’t care if you like them or not.

you’re denying that the progressive left is hostile to fossil fuels.
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Jim who actually reduced global production ! Trump not Biden not democrats Trump along with. Other oil producers made this agreement
That they have been more that willing to stick to..

But keep believing in your fantasy that been hostile (in words alone because you can’t name a single oil restriction this administration has imposed on the oil companies

And don’t mention keystone it wasn’t even being built under Trump

As the reasons they won’t pump more oil. And they are private companies they pump what they want. There is no government control in oil production or pricing. By this Administration. Not so for the last one. They couldn’t make up their minds pump or don’t pump
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[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by wdmso

Jim who actually reduced global production ! Trump not Biden not democrats Trump along with. Other oil producers made this agreement
That they have been more that willing to stick to..

But keep believing in your fantasy that been hostile (in words alone because you can’t name a single oil restriction this administration has imposed on the oil companies

And don’t mention keystone it wasn’t even being built under Trump

As the reasons they won’t pump more oil. And they are private companies they pump what they want. There is no government control in oil production or pricing. By this Administration. Not so for the last one. They couldn’t make up their minds pump or don’t pump
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first you denied production was down, ow you’re saying it’s down but it. Bidens fault.

American production is down. That means we’re producing less than we were before.

You blamed trump for
covid, and we all know you blamed bush for the subprime mortgage crisis. So you believe a president is responsible for the bad stuff that happens on his watch. Fine. Now it’s your turn to be in the receiving end of that logic. Whats good for the goose and all.
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[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by wdmso

you can’t name a single oil restriction this administration has imposed on the oil companies


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The hell I can’t.

I’ve said many times ( not enough for you to grasp it, but everyone else does) the soaring prices aren’t all Bidens fault. But they happened on his watch, so they’re his problem.

you don’t think Trump was any more pro fossil fuel than Biden? They are equal in that regard? that’s what you’re saying?

nobody believes that nonsense. His energy secretary hates oil.
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[Pete F.]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

The hell I can’t.

I’ve said many times ( not enough for you to grasp it, but everyone else does) the soaring prices aren’t all Bidens fault. But they happened on his watch, so they’re his problem.

you don’t think Trump was any more pro fossil fuel than Biden? They are equal in that regard? that’s what you’re saying?

nobody believes that nonsense. His energy secretary hates oil.
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Well you haven’t
Just typical propaganda
Louder when you’re called out

Facts matter: Average domestic oil production under President Biden is now HIGHER than under Trump or any past president. Republicans who say gas prices are high because Biden somehow shut down American energy production are just plain LYING.

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[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by Pete F.

Well you haven’t
Just typical propaganda
Louder when you’re called out

Facts matter: Average domestic oil production under President Biden is now HIGHER than under Trump or any past president. Republicans who say gas prices are high because Biden somehow shut down American energy production are just plain LYING.

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sure i have.

when prices started soaring, a reporter asked the energy secretary if the US would start increasing production to increase supply, to reduce cost.

She started cracking up. She thought it was a funny question. Not a serious question.

You’re denying that Trump is more
pro fossil fuel than Biden? that’s what you’re saying too?

that’ll work. stick with that.
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[Pete F.]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

sure i have.

when prices started soaring, a reporter asked the energy secretary if the US would start increasing production to increase supply, to reduce cost.

She started cracking up. She thought it was a funny question. Not a serious question.

You’re denying that Trump is more
pro fossil fuel than Biden? that’s what you’re saying too?

that’ll work. stick with that.
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Oil Nations, Prodded by Trump, Reach Deal to Slash Production
2020


Oil-producing nations on Sunday agreed to the largest production cut ever negotiated, in an unprecedented coordinated effort by Russia, Saudi Arabia and the United States to stabilize oil prices and, indirectly, global financial markets.
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[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by Pete F.

Oil Nations, Prodded by Trump, Reach Deal to Slash Production
2020


Oil-producing nations on Sunday agreed to the largest production cut ever negotiated, in an unprecedented coordinated effort by Russia, Saudi Arabia and the United States to stabilize oil prices and, indirectly, global financial markets.
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I’m taking about this country, which Biden does have some authority over. you pivoted to global affairs in an unsuccessful attempt to divert attention from how badly he has screwed up this country. No matter, America knows how badly he has screwed up this country. and they will express their opinion in november.

I’m really looking forward to it. You?

watch the stock market this week, especially if the Fed increases rates by more than a half point, which 8.6% inflation suggests they do.

Mortgage rates could easily be approaching double digits by november, which would send housing prices crashing. What happened to our economy the last time housing prices crashed?

A meaningful recession is 99% likely. Before covid, our economy was roaring. Under Bidens watch, it’s in serious trouble. It’s not all his fault, but it’s all his problem. He’s not competent to fix it, and we all see that.


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[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by Pete F.

Oil Nations, Prodded by Trump, Reach Deal to Slash Production
2020


Oil-producing nations on Sunday agreed to the largest production cut ever negotiated, in an unprecedented coordinated effort by Russia, Saudi Arabia and the United States to stabilize oil prices and, indirectly, global financial markets.
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that was during covid einstein, when there was zero global
demand for oil and prices were heading to $0. cutting production is smart when there’s zero demand

now we have increasing demand. Yet us production is down.

stupid post.
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[wdmso]

[QUOTE=Jim in CT;1227867]that was during covid einstein, when there was zero global
demand for oil and prices were heading to $0. cutting production is smart when there’s zero demand

now we have increasing demand. Yet us production is down.

stupid post.
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You don’t understand do you production is down because of Trumps production deal..

Covid era gas prices is all trump supporters point to . As if he did that lol.

He and his people were not trying to help Americans paying at the pump he was Trying to protect Big Oil who now refuse to produce more..,

They like Trumps deal. I am sure the y understood oil demand would eventually increase with the vaccine came on line. But and deals a. Deal and Trump short sightedness has contributed a lot
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[Jim in CT]

[QUOTE=wdmso;1227872]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

that was during covid einstein, when there was zero global
demand for oil and prices were heading to $0. cutting production is smart when there’s zero demand

now we have increasing demand. Yet us production is down.

stupid post.
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You don’t understand do you production is down because of Trumps production deal..

Covid era gas prices is all trump supporters point to . As if he did that lol.

He and his people were not trying to help Americans paying at the pump he was Trying to protect Big Oil who now refuse to produce more..,

They like Trumps deal. I am sure the y understood oil demand would eventually increase with the vaccine came on line. But and deals a. Deal and Trump short sightedness has contributed a lot
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please provide support that Trumps
deal is the reason why American companies arent producing more oil in america today, as demand has increased as covid wanes.
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[wdmso]

[QUOTE=Jim in CT;1227873]

Originally Posted by wdmso

please provide support that Trumps
deal is the reason why American companies arent producing more oil in america today, as demand has increased as covid wanes.
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Trumps deal will reduce output by 9.7 million barrels a day.

Wow that wasn’t hard
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[wdmso]

The group of oil-producing nations known as OPEC Plus agreed on Thursday to a larger increase in supply than planned for July and August. The White House hailed the higher output as a diplomatic breakthrough after months of lobbying Middle East oil giants to raise production to ease price pressures

But but Biden the reason gas is up!
It comical to see conservatives twist actual facts.

Another example

Ron DeSantis, recently tapped one of his allies in the Florida House to become the new secretary of state.

The new elections chief, Cord Byrd, when asked, he has refused to say Joe Biden won the 2020 presidential election.
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[Pete F.]

The tumult of war and climate breakdown has proved lucrative for the world’s leading oil and gas companies, with financial records showing 28 of the largest producers made close to $100bn in combined profits in just the first three months of 2022.
Buoyed by oil commodity prices that soared following the turmoil caused by Russia’s invasion of Ukraine, major fossil fuel businesses enjoyed a bonanza in the first quarter of the year, making $93.3bn in total profits.
Shell made $9.1bn in profit from January to March, almost three times what it made in the same period last year, while Exxon raked in $8.8bn, also a near threefold increase on 2021.
Chevron upped its profits to $6.5bn and BP reveled in its highest first-quarter profits in a decade, making $6.2bn. Coterra Energy, a Texas-based firm, had the largest relative windfall of the 28 companies, with a 449% increase in profits on last year, to $818m.
The rocketing profits, at a time when inflation has surged in many countries, has prompted several of the companies to return billions of dollars to shareholders via share buybacks and dividends.
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[wdmso]

https://www.bbc.com/news/explainers-60943322

Fuel prices: Could I save money driving an electric car?

There are nearly half a million electric cars in the UK, and rising fuel prices have prompted more people to consider making the switch.
The government is banning the sale of new petrol and diesel cars from 2030, a decade earlier than originally planned.

Filling the tank of a 47-litre family hatchback with petrol now costs about £85, or £88 for diesel.
Despite recent energy price increases, charging at home to deliver the equivalent mileage typically costs less than half of that - about £41.

Electric cars are coming they are just another tool in the tool box
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[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by wdmso

https://www.bbc.com/news/explainers-60943322

Fuel prices: Could I save money driving an electric car?

There are nearly half a million electric cars in the UK, and rising fuel prices have prompted more people to consider making the switch.
The government is banning the sale of new petrol and diesel cars from 2030, a decade earlier than originally planned.

Filling the tank of a 47-litre family hatchback with petrol now costs about £85, or £88 for diesel.
Despite recent energy price increases, charging at home to deliver the equivalent mileage typically costs less than half of that - about £41.

Electric cars are coming they are just another tool in the tool box
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what’s the cost of electric cars compared to gas? where does the electricity come from? unicorns?
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[wdmso]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

what’s the cost of electric cars compared to gas? where does the electricity come from? unicorns?
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Guess you haven’t a clue on what cars and trucks cost in the US

2020 SIERRA 1500 AT4 TRUCK CREW CAB With 25k on it. Is 60k

CERTIFIED
2020 Tesla Model 3
Standard Range Sedan 4D
26,049 miles. 47k

Ps read the article it gives an example of the cost of a charge compared to Gas.

Still have heard of wind solar and hydro? Nuclear power

About 30 percent of the world's electricity comes from renewables


Renewable sources account for 21% of all the electricity generated in the United States.

And climbing..

Jim you cling to fossil fuel like people once clung to the horse and carriages.. not sure if it for practical reasons or nostalgia

still own a tube TV?
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[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by wdmso

Guess you haven’t a clue on what cars and trucks cost in the US

2020 SIERRA 1500 AT4 TRUCK CREW CAB With 25k on it. Is 60k

CERTIFIED
2020 Tesla Model 3
Standard Range Sedan 4D
26,049 miles. 47k

Ps read the article it gives an example of the cost of a charge compared to Gas.

Still have heard of wind solar and hydro? Nuclear power

About 30 percent of the world's electricity comes from renewables


Renewable sources account for 21% of all the electricity generated in the United States.

And climbing..

Jim you cling to fossil fuel like people once clung to the horse and carriages.. not sure if it for practical reasons or nostalgia

still own a tube TV?
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wdmso, i have solar panels on my roof, and my next car will be a Sienna hybrid. i like electric cars.

but they are expensive, there aren’t enough of them available, there aren’t anywhere enough charging stations, and not nearly enough electricity once we have all the charging staying we need.

Are you opposed to nuclear? if so, where do you suppose we’re going to get the boatload more electricity we’re doing to need before we move to electric cars?

we are t going to be where we need to be, with wind and solar. we need a lot more.

imo, nuclear is the obvious answer.
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[The Dad Fisherman]

Originally Posted by wdmso

Guess you haven’t a clue on what cars and trucks cost in the US

2020 SIERRA 1500 AT4 TRUCK CREW CAB With 25k on it. Is 60k

CERTIFIED
2020 Tesla Model 3
Standard Range Sedan 4D
26,049 miles. 47k

Comparing a full size Pickup to a 4 door sedan is a poor comparison.

2020 Toyota Corolla SE
4 door
24,539 miles
$24k
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[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by The Dad Fisherman

Comparing a full size Pickup to a 4 door sedan is a poor comparison.

2020 Toyota Corolla SE
4 door
24,539 miles
$24k
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his was a poor comparison, but it stuck to The Narrative.
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