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04-04-2016, 07:49 PM
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No evidence of this Jim.
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http://www.nationalreview.com/articl...-state-secrets
"Clinton’s flimsy claim never to have handled e-mails labeled classified imploded recently when an e-mail sent June 17, 2011, became public. That morning, Clinton’s aide Jacob Sullivan informed her that a document could not reach her via a secure fax. No sweat! Clinton replied, “ . . . turn into nonpaper w no identifying heading and send nonsecure.” So, Clinton knew about these classified markings and, even worse, instructed her staffer to cover them up and forward her that document via a fax machine vulnerable to spies. Clinton’s “gross negligence” may have violated the federal Espionage Act, 18 U.S. Code § 793."
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04-04-2016, 09:25 PM
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http://www.nationalreview.com/articl...-state-secrets
"Clinton’s flimsy claim never to have handled e-mails labeled classified imploded recently when an e-mail sent June 17, 2011, became public. That morning, Clinton’s aide Jacob Sullivan informed her that a document could not reach her via a secure fax. No sweat! Clinton replied, “ . . . turn into nonpaper w no identifying heading and send nonsecure.” So, Clinton knew about these classified markings and, even worse, instructed her staffer to cover them up and forward her that document via a fax machine vulnerable to spies. Clinton’s “gross negligence” may have violated the federal Espionage Act, 18 U.S. Code § 793."
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We've discussed this. The request was for unclassified talking points contained within a document on the classified system. That on its on is no indication of wrongdoing by anyone. I'd note the requested information was never even sent via email.
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04-04-2016, 10:09 PM
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We've discussed this. The request was for unclassified talking points contained within a document on the classified system. That on its on is no indication of wrongdoing by anyone. I'd note the requested information was never even sent via email.
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She said to fax it, but you probably know better than Hillary what she said...oops I mean what she said in her email. Almost seems as though you hacked her emails also.
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04-05-2016, 10:58 AM
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We've discussed this. The request was for unclassified talking points contained within a document on the classified system. That on its on is no indication of wrongdoing by anyone. I'd note the requested information was never even sent via email.
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Newsflash......if it's on a classified system...it's a classified document. Until it has been OK'd for release from said system.
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04-05-2016, 06:52 PM
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Newsflash......if it's on a classified system...it's a classified document. Until it has been OK'd for release from said system.
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From what the State Department has said you will find unclassified information on the classified system and that doesn't mean it's illegal to talk about it.
Then again, the State Department review says the incident reported never happened regardless.
So I guess we should hold Clinton to a standard where she's liable for retroactive classification and emails that weren't even ever sent. Nice.
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04-05-2016, 07:41 PM
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From what the State Department has said you will find unclassified information on the classified system and that doesn't mean it's illegal to talk about it.
Then again, the State Department review says the incident reported never happened regardless.
So I guess we should hold Clinton to a standard where she's liable for retroactive classification and emails that weren't even ever sent. Nice.
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You will find unclassified on a classified system......but once it gets put on the classified system.....it is not allowed to leave without approval.....and Hillary is not the person allowed to provide that approval
I expect to hold Hillary to the same standards that everybody is held to who deals with classified material.....she's not exempt from proper security practices
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04-05-2016, 09:06 PM
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You will find unclassified on a classified system......but once it gets put on the classified system.....it is not allowed to leave without approval.....and Hillary is not the person allowed to provide that approval
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You're contradicting yourself.
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04-06-2016, 06:33 AM
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You're contradicting yourself.
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No I'm not....
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04-05-2016, 07:54 PM
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Newsflash......if it's on a classified system...it's a classified document. Until it has been OK'd for release from said system.
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My bad I guess.....I should have said it is "Considered" a classified document.....
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04-06-2016, 09:52 AM
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My bad I guess.....I should have said it is "Considered" a classified document.....
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My understanding is they were trying to use a secure fax to transmit unclassified talking points.
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04-06-2016, 11:06 AM
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My understanding is they were trying to use a secure fax to transmit unclassified talking points.
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We've discussed this. The request was for unclassified talking points contained within a document on the classified system.
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Now who is contradicting themselves....or at the very least changing their story.
No such thing as non classified talking points on a classified document......if a document is labeled classified......everything with in it......including the page number......is classified
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04-06-2016, 12:46 PM
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Now who is contradicting themselves....or at the very least changing their story.
No such thing as non classified talking points on a classified document......if a document is labeled classified......everything with in it......including the page number......is classified
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I was referring to the secure fax as part of the system. There are multiple ways to transmit electronically as you're well aware.
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