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09-02-2020, 03:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Jim in CT
Have you bothered to listen to what the kids lawyer is saying, or the reporter who was standing right there?
This isn't as simple as the Left wants it to be. It's just not.
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I saw the reporter from the dallycaller on tucker Carlson funny Tucker never told his audience that he was the guys BOSS? And he wasn't to clear what happened until he watched the film .. saying I didn't know I was that close. being in the moment and watching it are not they same .
Jim that's what lawyers get paid to do present their clients in the best light.. seems you and the specialists are taking what they are says as the only actual facts
The videos only show 1 part of the overall event , you forget there are eye witnesses
And other evidence none of us have seen
I still dont understand if you pick a fight and you get scared or start loosing said fight
Then it becomes self defense ... so jim are you suggesting there are 3 separate self defense claims .. or do all 3 shooting s = 1 self defense claim |
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09-02-2020, 03:11 PM
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09-04-2020, 12:15 PM
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Originally Posted by wdmso
I saw the reporter from the dallycaller on tucker Carlson funny Tucker never told his audience that he was the guys BOSS? And he wasn't to clear what happened until he watched the film .. saying I didn't know I was that close. being in the moment and watching it are not they same .
Jim that's what lawyers get paid to do present their clients in the best light.. seems you and the specialists are taking what they are says as the only actual facts
The videos only show 1 part of the overall event , you forget there are eye witnesses
And other evidence none of us have seen
I still dont understand if you pick a fight and you get scared or start loosing said fight
Then it becomes self defense ... so jim are you suggesting there are 3 separate self defense claims .. or do all 3 shooting s = 1 self defense claim
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Could you please show me either a news story, video, or a witness statement, saying that Kyle Rittenhouse either started a fight, or was the aggressor? |
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09-04-2020, 12:59 PM
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Originally Posted by TheSpecialist
Could you please show me either a news story, video, or a witness statement, saying that Kyle Rittenhouse either started a fight, or was the aggressor?
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Read the charging document. Note he's also been charged for possession of a weapon by someone UNDER EIGHTEEN.
https://bloximages.chicago2.vip.town...74cde9.pdf.pdf
Looks like he was pointing the gun at people so they tried to disarm him then all hell broke loose. Nothing like the presence of firearms to help escalate tense situations. |
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09-04-2020, 01:43 PM
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Originally Posted by TheSpecialist View Post
Could you please show me either a news story, video, or a witness statement, saying that Kyle Rittenhouse either started a fight, or was the aggressor?
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Originally Posted by spence
Read the charging document. Note he's also been charged for possession of a weapon by someone UNDER EIGHTEEN.
https://bloximages.chicago2.vip.town...74cde9.pdf.pdf
The charging document doesn't indicate "that Kyle Rittenhouse either started a fight, or was the aggressor?" as TheSpecialist asked. The charge indicates that others confronted or chased or threatened Rittenhouse before Kyle responded.
Looks like he was pointing the gun at people so they tried to disarm him then all hell broke loose. Nothing like the presence of firearms to help escalate tense situations. |
The charge doesn't indicate that the hell broke loose because Rittenhouse was pointing his gun at people. The only time it recounts Kyle pointing his gun is when he raised it to shoot Rosenbaum who was chasing him. And that was after Kyle's first shot was into the ground. |
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09-04-2020, 02:17 PM
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Originally Posted by detbuch
The charge doesn't indicate that the hell broke loose because Rittenhouse was pointing his gun at people. The only time it recounts Kyle pointing his gun is when he raised it to shoot Rosenbaum who was chasing him. And that was after Kyle's first shot was into the ground.
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I didn't say definitively, it sounds like there was an exchange of some words and the first person killed felt threatened so they tried to scare the defendant off then try and disarm them. It's a crappy situation but one that wouldn't have happened had the defendant been illegally armed. |
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09-04-2020, 02:19 PM
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Originally Posted by spence
I didn't say definitively, it sounds like there was an exchange of some words and the first person killed felt threatened so they tried to scare the defendant off then try and disarm them. It's a crappy situation but one that wouldn't have happened had the defendant been illegally armed.
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Lets say you and your significant other are walking down the street after dinner on the town. Someone starts a verbal altercation with you, you guys keep moving on, but that person chases after you, he assaults you or your SO, are you in the right to defend yourself? |
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09-04-2020, 04:10 PM
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Originally Posted by TheSpecialist
Lets say you and your significant other are walking down the street after dinner on the town. Someone starts a verbal altercation with you, you guys keep moving on, but that person chases after you, he assaults you or your SO, are you in the right to defend yourself?
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Different situations. It will be interesting if any new video comes out or people have credible testimony that shines some light on exactly how this got started. Kid screwed up big time and now two people are dead. Not sure if his self defense argument is going to hold, especially when the possession of the weapon is illegal. It's not like he was just walking down the street with his SO after dinner. |
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09-04-2020, 02:17 PM
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Originally Posted by detbuch
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Originally Posted by TheSpecialist View Post
Could you please show me either a news story, video, or a witness statement, saying that Kyle Rittenhouse either started a fight, or was the aggressor?
The charge doesn't indicate that the hell broke loose because Rittenhouse was pointing his gun at people. The only time it recounts Kyle pointing his gun is when he raised it to shoot Rosenbaum who was chasing him. And that was after Kyle's first shot was into the ground.
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Exactly, another emotional response from the left....
Not only was Rosenbaum chasing him, he was on video earlier threatening to take someone's gun from them. He them later chases Rittenhouse and tries to disarm him for no reason at all. Corroberated by an unbiased witness, Rosenbaum reach for and grabbed the gun |
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