It's PUTIN'S FAULT!

[JohnR]

Originally Posted by The Dad Fisherman

Don't see how the Russians interfered with the election.

It was held on the date it was scheduled, the polls opened on time, people voted, votes were tallied, and a winner was declared. All seemed pretty orderly to me....

Now did they hack into some poorly secured servers owned by the DNC and HRC? And did they expose all the lies and corruption going on in the DNC? Hmmmmm.....

If Putin's last name was Woodward or Bernstein he'd probably get a Pulitzer.
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This.

Russia DID try to influence the election. It is what they do.

They did not HACK the election. That would involve tampering with the results.

What they did is more or less what they always do to us and to others.

[The Dad Fisherman]

Originally Posted by JohnR

This.

Russia DID try to influence the election. It is what they do.

Every news outlet and social media site tried to influence the election....

Interfering and influencing are two different things.
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[PaulS]

Originally Posted by The Dad Fisherman

Every news outlet and social media site tried to influence the election....

Interfering and influencing are two different things.
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I can't recall what new sites and social media sites hacked personnal email accts. before.

[scottw]

Originally Posted by PaulS

I can't recall what new sites and social media sites hacked personnal email accts. before.

I'm pretty sure if you look(not very hard)you can find info that was reported by the msm for political reasons after being obtained obtained by less than scrupulous methods and democrats claiming that the content was far more important than the questionable way it was "stumbled upon"

I think Obama was successful in his first run for office after the sealed divorce records of his opponent were mysteriously obtained by the media

[PaulS]

Originally Posted by scottw

I'm pretty sure if you look(not very hard)you can find info that was reported by the msm for political reasons after being obtained obtained by less than scrupulous methods and democrats claiming that the content was far more important than the questionable way it was "stumbled upon"

I think Obama was successful in his first run for office after the sealed divorce records of his opponent were mysteriously obtained by the media

So we do know who hacked other people's emails?

While we don't know to what magnitude we do know it impacted some people's thinking (along w/Comey). Certainly no one can claim it threw the election though.

[The Dad Fisherman]

Originally Posted by PaulS

I can't recall what new sites and social media sites hacked personnal email accts. before.

Do you mean personal e-mail accounts....or e-mail accounts of government officials being housed on personal servers? because there is a difference.

and that argument doesn't make what I said about news organizations and social media sites influencing the election any less legitimate.

[The Dad Fisherman]

Originally Posted by JohnR

This.

Russia DID try to influence the election. It is what they do.

They did not HACK the election. That would involve tampering with the results.

What they did is more or less what they always do to us and to others.

Paul, you mean this quote by John? Looks like he used the word influence...not interference.

And I know that was the authors quote, not yours.
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