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Old 04-30-2020, 10:07 AM   #1
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Grennell is the acting DNI since mid February because his sole qualification is that he is a Trumplican
He would not make it thru the legally required Senate process to become DNI.
Mr. Grenell has no experience as an intelligence officer at any level, nor has he overseen a large government bureaucracy. He has served in government only as communications director for the U.S. ambassador to the U.N. during the George W. Bush administration, and since May 2018 as ambassador to Germany. (In the interim, he founded and ran a public affairs consultancy, advising and commenting on Fox News.)
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Attempting to kill the messenger is a weak attempt to discredit the message. This tactic is used when you cannot debunk the message.

The article I posted also included this statement by Col. R. Shane Day, director of the NCMI who responded to an ABC story that there were very early intelligence warnings re a possible pandemic. The director said:

"As a matter of practice the National Center for Medical Intelligence does not comment publicly on specific intelligence matters. However, in the interest of transparency during this current public health crisis, we can confirm that media reporting about the existence/release of a National Center for Medical Intelligence Coronavirus-related product/assessment in November of 2019 is not correct. No such NCMI product exists," the statement said.

The director, Col. Day, was not, obviously, going to publicly reveal classified data, but he saw the need to squelch media disinformation. His well guarded language was a way of saying that the media reports were not true in terms of intel assessing its information in the way the media interpreted it.

No report by any media outlet could state actual intel assessment that was briefed to the President. Anti-Trump media appeared to be more than happy to "assess" it for us.

I have asked you a few time to tell us what actual information was relayed to Trump. Which you never did. So, other than just making bald statements that Trump disregarded intel, give us the actual intel information and assessments that he disregarded.

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Old 04-30-2020, 11:03 AM   #2
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Attempting to kill the messenger is a weak attempt to discredit the message. This tactic is used when you cannot debunk the message.

The article I posted also included this statement by Col. R. Shane Day, director of the NCMI who responded to an ABC story that there were very early intelligence warnings re a possible pandemic. The director said:

"As a matter of practice the National Center for Medical Intelligence does not comment publicly on specific intelligence matters. However, in the interest of transparency during this current public health crisis, we can confirm that media reporting about the existence/release of a National Center for Medical Intelligence Coronavirus-related product/assessment in November of 2019 is not correct. No such NCMI product exists," the statement said.

The director, Col. Day, was not, obviously, going to publicly reveal classified data, but he saw the need to squelch media disinformation. His well guarded language was a way of saying that the media reports were not true in terms of intel assessing its information in the way the media interpreted it.

No report by any media outlet could state actual intel assessment that was briefed to the President. Anti-Trump media appeared to be more than happy to "assess" it for us.

I have asked you a few time to tell us what actual information was relayed to Trump. Which you never did. So, other than just making bald statements that Trump disregarded intel, give us the actual intel information and assessments that he disregarded.
So you repeat this to prove nothing other than the attempted distraction into making this about a story that originated with The Times of Israel reporting that NATO and the IDF were informed about this in November. https://www.timesofisrael.com/livebl...-mid-november/

Since what MSM said, was that it was in the PDB in January and February. Spend a little time looking at how things are vetted prior to going into the PDB, it's not full of clickbait. But maybe the only way to get Trump* to look at it would be to give it to Fox and Friends.

What is the P.D.B.?
The President’s Daily Brief is a summary of high-level intelligence and analysis about global hot spots and national security threats written by the Office of the Director of National Intelligence. While the intelligence community produces many reports and assessments, the P.D.B. is written specifically for the president and his top advisers.

In a Fox News interview, Mr. Trump noted that Vice President-elect Mike Pence and “my generals” were receiving the daily briefings, and said he saw no need to do so, too.

“You know, I’m, like, a smart person,” Mr. Trump said. “I don’t have to be told the same thing and the same words every single day for the next eight years. It could be eight years — but eight years. I don’t need that. But I do say if something should change, let us know.”

https://www.intelligence.gov/publics...ts-daily-brief

I have little doubt that our intelligence analysts identified a change in activity earlier than it was reported anywhere.

And that we are where we are at now because Trump* is "like a smart person".
The only problem is he's just playing one in his reality Presidency.

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