2 NYPD officers executed in response for Brown and Garner

[Jim in CT]

Behold what the divisive, hate-filled rhetoric of our President, his Attorney General, and their race-hustling lickspittles Sharpton and Jackson has cost:

http://news.yahoo.com/police-2-nyc-c...212302732.html

[tysdad115]

And the lowest form of society will rally around the shooter.
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[Piscator]

Where are all the protests now for these senseless killings?
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[spence]

Tragic for those officers and their families. Didn't the guy kill his girlfriend first. Think he might have some issues?
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[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by spence

Tragic for those officers and their families. Didn't the guy kill his girlfriend first. Think he might have some issues?
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Yes, he had issues. Lots of people have issues. That's precisely why it's important that people with big platforms, don't incite violence, because there is a very small number of people out there who are incited by that.

How do you not see that, exactly?

[spence]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

Yes, he had issues. Lots of people have issues. That's precisely why it's important that people with big platforms, don't incite violence, because there is a very small number of people out there who are incited by that.

How do you not see that, exactly?

Who was inciting violence? Protests in NY and other cities have been peaceful for the most part aside from the Ferguson riots. I don't see an issue with a politician supporting First Amendment rights.

[buckman]

Originally Posted by spence

Who was inciting violence? Protests in NY and other cities have been peaceful for the most part aside from the Ferguson riots. I don't see an issue with a politician supporting First Amendment rights.

They have been hate filled towards the police . They have spit , yelled in the face of , challenged and pushed the police to the brink .
I'm amazed at the restraint these officers have shown .
I would make a lousy police officer.
This administration has fanned the flames. Respect is a two way street .

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[spence]

Originally Posted by buckman

They have been hate filled towards the police . They have spit , yelled in the face of , challenged and pushed the police to the brink .
I'm amazed at the restraint these officers have shown .
I would make a lousy police officer.
This administration has fanned the flames. Respect is a two way street . Posted from my iPhone/Mobile device

And you have also have police infringing on the right of the people to peacefully protest. Cuts both ways but I think most cops behave well and most protests are peaceful.

Was listing to Mayor Nutter the other day and he said in Philly the police read the First Amendment as a group before they go out to monitor the protesters. Pretty interesting.

Ultimately it comes down to your belief that racial issues do exist. I don't think recognizing this is necessarily fanning the flames.

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by spence

Who was inciting violence? Protests in NY and other cities have been peaceful for the most part aside from the Ferguson riots. I don't see an issue with a politician supporting First Amendment rights.

There were rallies in NYC where the peaceful protesters were chanting for dead cops. Hundreds of people.

Spence, I agree that the majority of people were peaceful. I never said there were zero peaceful protesters. What I'm saying is, the number of violent sociopaths out there is also greater than zero. What happened in Ferguson, afetr what happened with the Rodney King verdict, these things tell us with zero ambiguity, that some people can be incited to violence.

Sharpton doesn't have to ask for his followers to "go out and kill cops". It's enough, when he says that black lives don't matter to white cops, and that white cops are in the habit of executing innocent black children. We know, we know for a fact, that alone wil incite some to violence.

The evidence of the potential danger, is there. As usual, your side can't process the empirical evidence, because it doesn't support "the narrative".

[spence]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

There were rallies in NYC where the peaceful protesters were chanting for dead cops. Hundreds of people.

Spence, I agree that the majority of people were peaceful. I never said there were zero peaceful protesters. What I'm saying is, the number of violent sociopaths out there is also greater than zero. What happened in Ferguson, afetr what happened with the Rodney King verdict, these things tell us with zero ambiguity, that some people can be incited to violence.

Sharpton doesn't have to ask for his followers to "go out and kill cops". It's enough, when he says that black lives don't matter to white cops, and that white cops are in the habit of executing innocent black children. We know, we know for a fact, that alone wil incite some to violence.

The evidence of the potential danger, is there. As usual, your side can't process the empirical evidence, because it doesn't support "the narrative".

I saw a video with a few dozen chanting about killing cops, it certainly crosses the line and people inciting that kind of hate speech should be prosecuted if possible.

The more that comes out about the shooter though you see how the guy had serious issues, he was going to crack sooner or later.

Race is still a pretty contentious issue and there are plenty of people on all sides fanning the flames.

[Piscator]

Originally Posted by spence

Who was inciting violence? Protests in NY and other cities have been peaceful for the most part aside from the Ferguson riots. I don't see an issue with a politician supporting First Amendment rights.

Really? San Francisco on Black Friday...Cops shouldn't have to put up with this BS...

http://vimeo.com/113145046

[spence]

Originally Posted by Piscator

Really? San Francisco on Black Friday...Cops shouldn't have to put up with this BS...

http://vimeo.com/113145046

I read about that. Multiple police assaults, stabbing, gunshot wounds, bonfires in the streets...

Wait, that was after the Giants won the World Series!

[The Dad Fisherman]

Originally Posted by Piscator

Really? San Francisco on Black Friday...Cops shouldn't have to put up with this BS...

http://vimeo.com/113145046

You sure that wasn't Oakland....I would have though San Fran would look more like this

[Raider Ronnie]

Originally Posted by spence

Who was inciting violence? Protests in NY and other cities have been peaceful for the most part aside from the Ferguson riots. I don't see an issue with a politician supporting First Amendment rights.

Peaceful ???

[scottw]

Originally Posted by spence

Think he might have some issues?

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probably safe to say about anyone who executes two people.....

[PaulS]

Funny the most hate filled person here would start this post.
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[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by PaulS

Funny the most hate filled person here would start this post.
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Glad you find it humorous. And once again, when someone displaying common sense points out the obvious insanity of the liberal position (in this case, your fellow world travelers put a bulls-eye on the backs of every cop), instead of admitting I am right, which I am, I get accused of hate. Yawn...

Know what I truly hate? That AL Sharpton has been to the White House (I've read) 82 times. Instead of telling Sharpton to STFU because he's dangerous, our President takes a knee and kisses his hand, and the liberal elites give him a show on a cable "news" channel. How is Sharpton going to cover the fact that (not for the first time, the first time were riots in Crown Heights, or Seaside Heights, I believe) he has innocent blood on his hands?

Sharpton may quote Obama's spiritual advisor (the deranged lunatic Rev Wright)..."the NYPDs chickens....have come home...TO ROOST!!" That's the spiritual advisor of the President Of The United States.

The cops are the enemies, and Abu Mumia Jamal is a cause celebre'. That's what your side truly believes. If I was associated with that kind of lunacy, I'd sit down with a Sam Adams in one hand, a bible in the other, and re-think a few things.

May God be with the families of these two heroes. It had to be Christmas week, two families who will never enjoy this holiday again.

PaulS, you keep insulting me, and keep your head in the sand as to how wrong your side has been on this issue, and what their behavior almost certainly helped to bring about in this case.

[PaulS]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

May God be with the families of these two heroes. It had to be Christmas week, two families who will never enjoy this holiday again.

PaulS, you keep insulting me, and keep your head in the sand as to how wrong your side has been on this issue, and what their behavior almost certainly helped to bring about in this case.

Well with that first paragraph we finally agree on 1 thing.

You couldn't even wait until the 2 bodies were removed from the hospital bf you used them for your political purposes! How sad is that!

The majority of your posts are insulting. You can't post in this foum w/o insulting someone's beliefs. I don't think you are capable of it.

How was the "hate filled rhetoric" of the President responsible for some deranged POS' killing 2 police officers? And maybe you could contrast that to the teabaggers trying to take away his religion and country'? has there ever been a President who has been insulted more?
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[detbuch]

Originally Posted by PaulS

has there ever been a President who has been insulted more?
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Actually, yeah, maybe even most other Presidents were insulted more. Politics was always an insulting free-for-all. Even more so in the 19th century. Americans were freer and more rambunctious in their characterizations of those they disagreed with.

Obama has actually brought into the dialogue, not a greater civility, but a greater fear of saying anything that might be perceived as an insult for fear of being called a racist.

[spence]

Originally Posted by detbuch

Obama has actually brought into the dialogue, not a greater civility, but a greater fear of saying anything that might be perceived as an insult for fear of being called a racist.

Yes, it certainly put a halt to opponents using his black skin and funny name in a relentless smear campaign to undermine his identity as an American.

Nope, nobody willing to go there...

[buckman]

Originally Posted by PaulS

Well with that first paragraph we finally agree on 1 thing.

You couldn't even wait until the 2 bodies were removed from the hospital bf you used them for your political purposes! How sad is that!

The majority of your posts are insulting. .... And maybe you could contrast that to the teabaggers trying to take away his religion and country'?
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Funny stuff right there
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[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by buckman

Funny stuff right there
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See, Paul can use insulting terms, and it's OK. Must be nice...

[scottw]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

Behold what the divisive, hate-filled rhetoric of our President, his Attorney General, and their race-hustling lickspittles Sharpton and Jackson has cost:

http://news.yahoo.com/police-2-nyc-c...212302732.html

you forgot de Blasio

read this:

http://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/...icle-1.2052215

[Jackbass]

Cop killed in Florida as well now. Another guys gun Jammed in Brooklyn in another failed asasination attempt.

Politics are the problem in this country right and left are all wrong.

Unreal these cops have to keep their backs to the wall simply coming to work. It's a job/career just horrendous.
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[PaulS]

I agree a very, very tough job.

[Jim in CT]

The mayor of NYC was shown a video last week of 2 or 3 NYC officers being attacked and besieged by a mob. DiBlasio could only say, after seeing the video, that there was an "alleged" assault. He wouldn't go further than that. Yet when the Garner grand jury refused to indict, DiBlasio said it was "painful and shocking".

PaulS and Spence, why is that? Why do you suppose DiBlasio refused to say that the cops were assaulted (while seeing it on video), yet he was more than comfortable saying that the Garner cops should have been charged?

Words matter.

[Jim in CT]

So even though the overwhelming majority of blacks murder victims are killed by other blacks, the liberal elites (Obama, Holder, the media, Sharpton, DiBlasio) are obsessed with the tragis, but statistically insignificant, instances where white cops are involved.

Why is that? If blacks are several times more likely (many many times more likely) to be killed by fellow blacks than by white cops, why are we wasting so much energy on the white cops? Why? Here's why, the left needs these situations to galvanize their base and to reinforce their disgusting, demonstrably false narrative.

In the meantime, they don't care that it works up public resentment against honest cops, and also does absolutely nothing to actually help poor blacks, who would clearly be best served by adopting the exact agenda put forth by a group PaulS demeaned as teabaggers. Kind of ironic when you think of it that way. It is Obama/Holder/Sharpton/DiBlassio who are doing incalculable damage to poor blacks by patting them on the back and saying "there, there" instead of doing what that teabagger Bill Clinton did, showing them that tough love is still love, and incentivizing them to put down the pipe, pull their pants up, cover the tattoos, and get to work.

[detbuch]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

So even though the overwhelming majority of blacks murder victims are killed by other blacks, the liberal elites (Obama, Holder, the media, Sharpton, DiBlasio) are obsessed with the tragis, but statistically insignificant, instances where white cops are involved.

Why is that? If blacks are several times more likely (many many times more likely) to be killed by fellow blacks than by white cops, why are we wasting so much energy on the white cops? Why? Here's why, the left needs these situations to galvanize their base and to reinforce their disgusting, demonstrably false narrative.

In the meantime, they don't care that it works up public resentment against honest cops, and also does absolutely nothing to actually help poor blacks, who would clearly be best served by adopting the exact agenda put forth by a group PaulS demeaned as teabaggers. Kind of ironic when you think of it that way. It is Obama/Holder/Sharpton/DiBlassio who are doing incalculable damage to poor blacks by patting them on the back and saying "there, there" instead of doing what that teabagger Bill Clinton did, showing them that tough love is still love, and incentivizing them to put down the pipe, pull their pants up, cover the tattoos, and get to work.

Jim, I think you'll like this article a lot. Kind of encapsulates a wider span of this nonsense:

http://humanevents.com/2014/12/22/ne...tm_campaign=nl

[PaulS]

"The belief that all members of each race possess characteristics or abilities specific to that race, especially so as to distinguish it as inferior or superior to another race or races."

Tell us more about what ails blacks. Interesting reading.

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by PaulS

Tell us more about what ails blacks. Interesting reading.

The biggest ailment,as any honest person knows, is that the current black culture has turned its back on the path to avoid poverty, and the current black culture embraces things that are almost guaranteed to lead to poverty. In the opinion of money, black culture has descended to this (75% of black babies born out of wedlock) as a direct result of liberal policies.

It's not hard to figure out the ailment, Paul. Don't ask me how to fix it, but the problem is obvious. Obvious.

On 9/11,NYPD was viewed as heroes. What a great cultural leap forward we have made, thanks to the left. There is so much dishonesty in the liberal agenda, for example, that there is a systemic culture of racism among NYPD? There are rare, isolated incidents (the last 2 seemingly had zero to do with race) which Sharpton and Omaba use as an opportunity to paint cops as today's version of the Klan. It's a big lie, and i think you and Spence both know that.

Blatant, obvious lies. But it gets them votes, and that's all that matters.