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fishaholic18 · 08-16-2008, 05:29 AM

Lynch is one of my favorites, love his style. Perfect fit for the Pats.

afterhours · 08-16-2008, 05:56 AM

great signing! this guy can bring it! we've had some super additions to a loaded team...jordan, lynch, mayo

Raider Ronnie · 08-16-2008, 06:04 AM

36 year old has been !
Not to mention Rodney Harrison is 35 !

NIB · 08-16-2008, 07:18 AM

Lynch was drafted as a pitcher by the Florida Marlins the second round (66th overall) of the 1992 amateur draft. He threw the first pitch in the organization's history as a member of the Erie Sailors. His jersey is in the Baseball Hall of Fame. He played two seasons in the minor leagues with the Sailors and Kane County Cougars, starting nine games and going 1-3 with a 2.36 earned run average.

afterhours · 08-16-2008, 07:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Raider Ronnie

36 year old has been !
Not to mention Rodney Harrison is 35 !

he will excel as a role player- this guy can play. heck he's too young for the raiders to sign- maybe when he's 40

NIB · 08-16-2008, 08:14 AM

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Originally Posted by afterhours

he will excel as a role player- this guy can play. heck he's too young for the raiders to sign- maybe when he's 40

Oh Yea,,,
I can hear it now..
"Farve drops back..
He's got a man it's Coles..
He makes the catch..
10,5.... TD...J-E-T-S...
He split the safeties like they where standing still...

I don't understand where he fits really Both Harrison and Lynch are situational run stoppers..

Raider Ronnie · 08-16-2008, 10:35 AM

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Originally Posted by afterhours

he will excel as a role player- this guy can play. heck he's too young for the raiders to sign- maybe when he's 40

Don,
Do some more research !!!
The Raiders are now one of the youngest teams !
Unlike the Pats who are getting old !

BassDawg · 08-16-2008, 11:04 AM

ease-up there Raider Ron,

mebee Don was referrring to yer ancient Owner??

doan make me attach that gawdawful shot of him,
yeah ~~you know.................the one
that makes him look older than Medusela.

NIB ~~
ya talk about yer hasbeens?
the PATS frontline and Mayo are gonna
TATTOO the once Great "Gunslinger"

by mid-season Ole Brett Fahvv verr err RUUUUH
(re:"Something About Mary")
will be wishing he NEVER left GB and what in his unright
mind made him want to go up against Bill, TWICE a year???

i shore hope you ain't pinning your scoring hopes on Coles either,
waaaaaaaaay WAY overrated, imho, and not worth #4's arm ~~
or, rather, what's left of it. Lynch and Harrison must be licking their chops NOW.

jmonte45 · 08-16-2008, 12:03 PM

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Originally Posted by NIB

He makes the catch..
10,5.... TD...J-E-T-S...
..

I don't know how much you are gonna hear that.....the jets are still horrible. Lucky to go 8-8.

afterhours · 08-16-2008, 12:10 PM

they are young- i was referring to their track record...patriots are full of experienced players...keep watching the scoreboard- this team is ridicurus (donna chang)

BassDawg · 08-18-2008, 03:25 AM

RIDICURUS!!! yes, and

they got sum unfinished bizness from
last year. i know, I KNOW,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,

this is a New Season and a newer and better team,
at least on paper, i just keep wonderin' who they gonna ADD next??

hope #12's ankle is healed up, Moss looks SICK,
Mayo is gonna light up some folk, Welker is AMAZING,
and didn't they release STONEHANDS Watson? great blocker,
*couldn't catch a football, when it matters, to save his life*

ThomCat · 08-18-2008, 05:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Raider Ronnie

36 year old has been !
Not to mention Rodney Harrison is 35 !

If I didn't know better I say that you didn't care for the local sports heros around these parts. Gotta give ya credit though. You hung in there with that pathetic excuse for an NFL team. Most Raider fans took the gas pipe or put a gon in their mouths a long time ago. As for Lynch, it's better to be a has been than, like most Raiders, a NEVER WAS!!!!!!!:raiders:

Raider Ronnie · 08-18-2008, 08:51 PM

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If I didn't know better I say that you didn't care for the local sports heros around these parts.

For the record, my favorite sports hero is Robert Gordon Orr !

Gotta give ya credit though. You hung in there with that pathetic excuse for an NFL team. Most Raider fans took the gas pipe or put a gon in their mouths a long time ago. As for Lynch, it's better to be a has been than, like most Raiders, a NEVER WAS!!!!

as for "like most Raiders,never was"
We had the one of the greatest football players ever not too long ago at the end of his career (with plenty of football to be played left in him ) Jerry Rice !!!

Mike P · 08-19-2008, 12:19 PM

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Originally Posted by ThomCat

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If I didn't know better I say that you didn't care for the local sports heros around these parts.

For the record, my favorite sports hero is Robert Gordon Orr !

Gotta give ya credit though. You hung in there with that pathetic excuse for an NFL team. Most Raider fans took the gas pipe or put a gon in their mouths a long time ago. As for Lynch, it's better to be a has been than, like most Raiders, a NEVER WAS!!!!

as for "like most Raiders,never was"
We had the one of the greatest football players ever not too long ago at the end of his career (with plenty of football to be played left in him ) Jerry Rice !!!

Love the trash talk from fans of a team with exactly two members in Canton. One recently added.

There would have been a third, but he got enshrined wearing the Silver and Black.

The Dad Fisherman · 08-19-2008, 01:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Mike P

Love the trash talk from fans of a team with exactly two members in Canton. One recently added.

I'm pretty sure we'll have a few more in there in the future.

Mike P · 08-19-2008, 01:33 PM

Brady and who else? Maybe Bruschi. His problems will be playing in the same era as guys like Ray Lewis and Brian Urlacher, not to mention Seau, and playing in a 3-4 all of his career. Seau goes in as a Charger. Moss goes in as a Viking assuming he makes it at all. One of the problems you'll have is that the great SB teams were more of a whole than a collection of individual parts.

fishbones · 08-19-2008, 01:43 PM

Willie McGinest has a chance to get in based on his reular season and playoff career #'s. And Ty Law is a borderline HOFer. For several years, he was one of the very best at his position. Rodney Harrison gets in, but as a Charger. Other than them, the Pats haven't had a lot of dominating players at the glamour positions, which are usually the positions that most often are considered for the HOF.

There will be Patriots players who otherwise would have been afterthoughts that may get in because they played in this era of success. Players get much more pub when they're on a winning team and that often translates into more HOF recognition.

The Dad Fisherman · 08-19-2008, 01:46 PM

Vinitieri - Mr. Clutch
McGinest - All Time Play-off Sack Leader
Belichek (?) - Greatest Rule Manipulator of all time

Mike P · 08-19-2008, 03:09 PM

McGinest has a legit shot. There's only one kicker in Canton (Stenerud) and he had about a 20 year career. Vinatieri needs to make a few more clutch kicks for the Dolts--you don't get into Canton off 3-4 seasons of performance.

Law isn't getting in. His post-Foxboro career was underwhelming. Not when he's measured against guys like Woodson and Champ Bailey. Lynch will, but no one is going to consider him a Patriot--it's a toss-up whether he goes in as a Bronco or Buc.

Basically--the only lock is Brady. First ballot right now, even if he never took another snap.

fishbones · 08-19-2008, 03:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Mike P

Law isn't getting in. His post-Foxboro career was underwhelming. Not when he's measured against guys like Woodson and Champ Bailey.

Keep in mind that Law had one of his best seasons the year he played on the Jets (10 int's). Also, he's got 52 career INT's and has 3 SB rings. He's been to 5 Pro Bowls and led the league in INT's twice. I don't think it's as much of a stretch as you think.

Granted, it will need to be a pretty weak HOF class for him to make it in, but he'll have a shot.

The Dad Fisherman · 08-19-2008, 05:01 PM

Mike, What about Belichek?

Raider Ronnie · 08-19-2008, 05:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Raider Ronnie

Love the trash talk from fans of a team with exactly two members in Canton. One recently added.

There would have been a third, but he got enshrined wearing the Silver and Black.

Ya Mike,
I should have included Mike Haynes and Jim Plunkett in guys we have picked up the were "Never was " !!!

Raider Ronnie · 08-19-2008, 05:23 PM

[QUOTE=Mike P;613334]McGinest has a legit shot. There's only one kicker in Canton (Stenerud) and he had about a 20 year career. Vinatieri needs to make a few more clutch kicks for the Dolts--you don't get into Canton off 3-4 seasons of performance

I got to agree with Mike on this one also !
As much as I like Vinatieri (and I think he should have been MVP for atleast one of their super bowl wins)
If Ray Guy isn't in not likely for Adam to get in !

Mike P · 08-19-2008, 08:43 PM

Morten Anderson will be the next kicker to get in.

Belicheck will have HOF credentials. He already has. There are people like Marv Levy and Bud Grant in as coaches, whose claim to fame is losing Super Bowls. Even Weeb Ewbank, who made it on the strength of one game. I can't see how they can keep him out

The Dad Fisherman · 08-20-2008, 08:03 AM

I don't see why Vinitieri is such a long shot to get in. If you compare his stats to Stenerud he has better stats......as well as having 4 superbowl rings, 2 of which he is responsible for compared to 1 SB ring for Stenerud

Stats

Stenerud - Field Goals 373/558 for a FG% of 66.8% and 580/601 in extra point attempts for a 96.5 percent in 19 seasons

Vinitieri - Field Goals 311/378 for a FG% of 82.3% and 454/463 in extra point attempts for a 98.1% percent in 12 seasons (so far)

and owns 7 NFL Records and tied for an 8th

Vinatieri holds the record for most postseason field goals in a career, with 40, which he set during the 2006 season, surpassing Gary Anderson's previous record of 34

Most consecutive games in a single postseason with 3+ field goals: 4

Most points in postseason, career: 167

Most field goals in a single postseason: 14

Most Field Goals Lifetime in Super Bowl: 7

Most (One Point) Extra Points Lifetime in Super Bowl: 13

Record for most total points in a single postseason: 49 in 2006 (surpassing Terrell Davis' previous record of 48)

Most Field Goals in a single NFL postseason game: 5 (tied with Steve Christie and Chuck Nelson); achieved twice, with the Patriots vs. the Colts in the 2003-04 AFC Championship, and with the Colts vs. the Baltimore Ravens in

and Ron, I know you always feel the need to bring up some wronged Raider whenever the discussion of the HOF comes up but we are talking about Place Kickers...Ray Guy was was a punter, granted one of,if not, The best....but can't draw comparisons on that

Raider Ronnie · 08-20-2008, 04:20 PM

and Ron, I know you always feel the need to bring up some wronged Raider whenever the discussion of the HOF comes up but we are talking about Place Kickers...Ray Guy was was a punter, granted one of,if not, The best....but can't draw comparisons on that[/QUOTE]

My point,
Both kickers and punters are not considered real football players by most !
especially by the hall of fame voters!

Raider Ronnie · 08-31-2008, 05:53 PM

CUT !