Trump

[Got Stripers]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

trump is telling people to get vaccinated. always has.

who is at the top on the right that’s telling people not to get vaccinated?

that’s a sincere question.

and i know you don’t wish anything bad to happen to anybody.
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Really are you seriously asking if messaging on the right isn’t anti vaccine, come on Jim really.

[scottw]

Originally Posted by Got Stripers

Really are you seriously asking if messaging on the right isn’t anti vaccine, come on Jim really.

Name someone…
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[scottw]

SEAN HANNITY: And it absolutely makes sense for many Americans to get vaccinated. I believe in science. I believe in the science of vaccination.
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[scottw]

Ooops. Not that guy🤣🤣🤣
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[Got Stripers]

Originally Posted by scottw

Name someone…
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Really you too, OMG Fox has been bashing the vaccine forever, today Matt I hope I can avoid jail time Gaetz said the best vaccine is getting Covid; well there is no cure for stupid. Crap pick a right leaning nut job like him, Ron Johnson or throw a dart to the right.

[scottw]

Originally Posted by Got Stripers

Really you too, OMG Fox has been bashing the vaccine forever, today Matt I hope I can avoid jail time Gaetz said the best vaccine is getting Covid; well there is no cure for stupid.

Who?
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[scottw]

aug 4

Sean Hannity, one of the highest-profile Fox News hosts, told his audience he believes “in the science of vaccination.” Steve Doocy, co-host of the right-leaning Fox & Friends morning show, told viewers the shot “will save your life.” And Sarah Huckabee Sanders, who’s running for governor of Arkansas after a stint as a Fox News contributor and White House press secretary under former President Donald Trump, penned an op-ed last week encouraging people to consider getting the “Trump vaccine.”
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[Got Stripers]

Originally Posted by scottw

aug 4

Sean Hannity, one of the highest-profile Fox News hosts, told his audience he believes “in the science of vaccination.” Steve Doocy, co-host of the right-leaning Fox & Friends morning show, told viewers the shot “will save your life.” And Sarah Huckabee Sanders, who’s running for governor of Arkansas after a stint as a Fox News contributor and White House press secretary under former President Donald Trump, penned an op-ed last week encouraging people to consider getting the “Trump vaccine.”
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August 4th really you stuck in time? No TV in your house, maybe a go fund me to help?

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by Got Stripers

Really are you seriously asking if messaging on the right isn’t anti vaccine, come on Jim really.

yea i am. and you didn’t provide a name. wdmso said big birch tree or something like that, someone i never heard of.

Trump had been very very clear. he’s pro vaccine.
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[scottw]

Originally Posted by Got Stripers

August 4th really you stuck in time? No TV in your house, maybe a go fund me to help?

Please name someone who is saying don’t get vaccinated
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[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by Got Stripers

August 4th really you stuck in time? No TV in your house, maybe a go fund me to help?

he keeps asking you for names for republicans “at the top” who are saying not to get vaccinated.
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[scottw]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

and you didn’t provide a name. wdmso said big birch tree or something like that,

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That was classic!
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[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by scottw

That was classic!
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bigger than Rush Limbaugh.
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[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by scottw

That was classic!
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Tom Cotton: “i’m
getting vaccinated, I encourage everyone to get theirs.”

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.abc...9-vaccine/amp/

Gov Desantis is very pro vaccine.
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[Got Stripers]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

yea i am. and you didn’t provide a name. wdmso said big birch tree or something like that, someone i never heard of.

Trump had been very very clear. he’s pro vaccine.
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I’m confused is Trump on the top or the bottom, I thought he was the loser? Maybe you can explain then why Trump voting strong holds are dying at three time the rate, is he the loser or the crazy mothers that still believe he is president?

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by Got Stripers

I’m confused is Trump on the top or the bottom, I thought he was the loser? Maybe you can explain then why Trump voting strong holds are dying at three time the rate, is he the loser or the crazy mothers that still believe he is president?

i think he’s not on top. but you guys are all still obsessed with him. he was on top when vaccines rolled out.

you insulted me
for not knowing that republicans at the top are bashing vaccines,,but couldn’t name
anyone if anyone influence who’s doing so.

because there aren’t a large number of really influential republicans saying not to get vaccinated.


and again, what the heck is going on with blacks? why are their vaccination rates so low?

this is very simple. if you think trump is telling people
not to get vaccinated, just show a video of him saying that?

by the time trump got booted, a million people a day were getting vaccinated.
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[Jim in CT]

Trump: “it’s a great vaccine, and it’s safe, and it’s something that works.”
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[Got Stripers]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

i think he’s not on top. but you guys are all still obsessed with him. he was on top when vaccines rolled out.

you insulted me
for not knowing that republicans at the top are bashing vaccines,,but couldn’t name
anyone if anyone influence who’s doing so.

because there aren’t a large number of really influential republicans saying not to get vaccinated.


and again, what the heck is going on with blacks? why are their vaccination rates so low?

this is very simple. if you think trump is telling people
not to get vaccinated, just show a video of him saying that?

by the time trump got booted, a million people a day were getting vaccinated.
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No Jim you tell me why Trump strongholds are dying at three times the rate, you dodge by redirecting but right back at you buddy. The messaging they have heard is the reason.

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by Got Stripers

No Jim you tell me why Trump strongholds are dying at three times the rate, you dodge by redirecting but right back at you buddy. The messaging they have heard is the reason.

i have no idea. i do know, it’s not because trump is telling them not to get vaccinated. he’s not saying that.

why are blacks not getting vaccinated?

i don’t know who these millions of people are listening to. neither do you. but yet you’re claiming you do know, and claiming it’s republicans at the top. it’s not. if it was, i’d admit it, and you should
know that.
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[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by Got Stripers

No Jim you tell me why Trump strongholds are dying at three times the rate, you dodge by redirecting but right back at you buddy. The messaging they have heard is the reason.

im not dodging. I’m saying “i don’t know.”. i haven’t seen anyone i could sister influential ( either among republicans or
among blacks) saying not to get vaccinated.

you don’t know either.
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[Got Stripers]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

i have no idea. i do know, it’s not because trump is telling them not to get vaccinated. he’s not saying that.

why are blacks not getting vaccinated?

i don’t know who these millions of people are listening to. neither do you. but yet you’re claiming you do know, and claiming it’s republicans at the top. it’s not. if it was, i’d admit it, and you should
know that.
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You can’t seriously believe right wing media has been pro vaccine from day one until today, really with a straight face? What is the alternative, all Trump strongholds were always anti vaccine anything?

[Jim in CT]

GS it would make sense to
assume unvaccinated republicans are listening to a republican who opposes the vaccine.

Seems identically sensible to assume
blacks are doing the same, listening to an influential black who is saying don’t get vaccinated.

but i don’t see anyone if much influence telling people not to get vaccinated. i can’t help but notice that despite your insistence, yiu don’t seem
to be aware of
any either.

it doesn’t make any sense to not get vaccinated. i have no idea what people
Are thinking.
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[Got Stripers]

On that we can agree, get vaccinated or be stupid, freedom of choice.

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by Got Stripers

On that we can agree, get vaccinated or be stupid, freedom of choice.

agreed. it’s beyond stupid. good night.
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[scottw]

all that bluster..he still didn't name anyone...

amazing how many republican trump supporters in those trump counties in europe influenced by anti-vaxx celebrities on FOX are protesting the mandates there

https://www.reuters.com/world/europe...ls-2021-12-05/

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by scottw

all that bluster..he still didn't name anyone...

amazing how many republican trump supporters in those trump counties in europe influenced by anti-vaxx celebrities on FOX are protesting the mandates there

https://www.reuters.com/world/europe...ls-2021-12-05/

there isn’t anyone of real influence on the right telling people
not to get vaccinated. there just isn’t.

but there are still a lot of unvaccinated republicans. Too many.
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[scottw]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

but there are still a lot of unvaccinated people...

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fixed it...

hey...virtually nobody left to vaccinate in Portugal a couple of months ago...the vaccination pride of the world....

is now reimposing restrictions due to a new surge

In Portugal, There Is Virtually No One Left to Vaccinate
https://www.nytimes.com › World › Europe
Oct 1, 2021 — Portugal is among the most highly vaccinated countries in the world. Vice Adm. Henrique Gouveia e Melo, who led the campaign, said there was a .....

Portugal reimposes rules as COVID-19 cases rise | Reutershttps://www.reuters.com › world › europe › portugal-reim...
Nov 25, 2021 — LISBON, Nov 25 (Reuters) - Portugal, which has one of the world's highest rates of vaccination against COVID-19, announced it would reimpose...

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by Got Stripers

You can’t seriously believe right wing media has been pro vaccine from day one until today, really with a straight face? What is the alternative, all Trump strongholds were always anti vaccine anything?

you still aren’t naming names, which tells me you aren’t aware of
anyone either.

i’m sure there were individuals
in the media who were skeptical, especially at first. not today.

it’s also extremely telling, that neither you nor wayne will go anywhere near the fact that blacks also have very low vaccination rates. i guess you know you can’t make it a political win for you, so you just pretend it’s not a fact.

better to process all the facts, not just the ones that provide political capital.
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[scottw]

Originally Posted by Got Stripers

Maybe you can explain then why Trump voting strong holds are dying at three time the rate

I didn't know that there was a box that gets checked on a death certificate...republican/democrat

[wdmso]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

there isn’t anyone of real influence on the right telling people
not to get vaccinated. there just isn’t.

but there are still a lot of unvaccinated republicans. Too many.
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Wow you are completely detached from reality.. you convince yourself Abrams insist the election was stolen , yet she clearly conceded who won and now you suggest no conservatives of real influence every said don’t get vaccinated

Seems you are out of touch where conservatives get their info and whom they consider influential

Phil Valentine, a prominent Tennessee rightwing talk radio host, had released a song called Vaxman, an anti-Covid vaccination ditty based on the Beatles track Taxman.

Marc Bernier, a host in Daytona Beach, Florida, had declared himself “Mr Anti-Vax”. #^&#^&#^&#^& Farrel, also from Florida, urged his listeners not to get vaccinated, and Jimmy DeYoung asked on air whether the vaccine could be a “form of government control of the people”.

All four men died in August of coronavirus. A fifth conservative radio host, Bob Enyart, died on 13 September, weeks after he told his listeners to boycott vaccines that were “immorally developed”.



Jim Jordan says 'real America is done with Covid.

Trump's White House doctor calls omicron a midterm elections trick
“Here comes the MEV - the Midterm Election Variant!” Ronny Jackson tweeted Saturday.



Seems Jim and Scott don’t do many internet searches

https://www.forbes.com/sites/alisond...ne-poll-finds/


Republicans have consistently told pollsters they’re not planning to be vaccinated —


Tucker Members and staffers would be required to get a shot that the CDC told us today doesn’t work very well and, by the way, whose long-term effects cannot be known.” (The CDC did not say this.)

Carlson’s Facebook followers commented eagerly on the video clip, spreading unfounded fears about vaccination among themselves. “Completely disappointed in our government, don’t believe a word they speak! Will not get the shot!” one person wrote. Together, Carlson and his viewers are a placenta and embryo, gestating dangerous ideas and keeping the pandemic alive.

Republican senator was booed and catcalled when he told a party audience in South Carolina to think about getting a vaccine against Covid-19.

It was Lindsey Graham

Then you have ivermectin

Fox News host Laura Ingraham, who pitched the drug long before many in conservative media or even on Fox itself joined her.
On Dec. 1, Ingraham welcomed a doctor who had advised Trump and claimed social distancing and quarantining don’t work

Chairman Ron Johnson (R-Wis.) hosted a controversial hearing featuring, among his witnesses, two doctors who advocated for ivermectin. Johnson claimed at the hearing that the information his witnesses provided was being censored on social media.
That was kibble for conservative media. The next day, Ingraham floated a conspiracy theory that rears its head to this day: the idea that drugs like ivermectin are being suppressed as coronavirus treatments because they are too cheap — or even that they would jeopardize the emergency approvals of the vaccines.


NPR looked at deaths per 100,000 people in roughly 3,000 counties across the U.S. from May 2021, the point at which vaccinations widely became available. People living in counties that went 60% or higher for Trump in November 2020 had 2.78 times the death rates of those that went for Biden. Counties with an even higher share of the vote for Trump saw higher COVID-19 mortality rates.

Statistics don’t lie

Inside the growing alliance between anti-vaccine activists and pro-Trump Republicans

There are examples after examples of why Republicans won’t get vaccinated..

59 percent of Republicans and Republican-leaning independents say that believing Trump won the 2020 election is "important" to being a Republican⁠

These are the same core supporters who are more than likely to be against vaccines… and it’s not based in any factual reality..


Yet Jim’s introduced Race with what about blacks
When honestly the topic is about Republicans ( some whom are actually black or have a PHD or both). In an effort to defend a party that no longer exist as it once did

So here’s a question to anyone

If there isn’t anyone of real influence on the right telling people
not to get vaccinated.

Then who what or where is this moment rooted ?


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