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Old 08-05-2013, 09:41 AM   #1
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Market is Flooded

Prices probably will not be good this year because of the yen being worth about a 1/3rd less then last year at this time and theJapanese R not offering big prices ....the domestic market is flooded with tuna...most fish being caught around Maine....some fish being landed here on Cape Ann....once this season has passed there should be some good deals on tuna reels etc:
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Old 08-06-2013, 11:59 AM   #2
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Gee Could be the 60 giants the seiner just brought in
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Old 08-06-2013, 12:07 PM   #3
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$10 on a good fish. Seems like the same as always
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Old 08-07-2013, 05:59 AM   #4
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97 with more on the way.

This is starting to be publicized so I won't be the first. Seiner made a set on small fish yesterday Killed hundreds of rats.

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Old 08-08-2013, 02:29 PM   #5
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97 with more on the way.

This is starting to be publicized so I won't be the first. Seiner made a set on small fish yesterday Killed hundreds of rats.
who is seiner and how can they be legally killing all these fish big and small???
I miss something?
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Old 08-08-2013, 02:39 PM   #6
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One of those might have been MY rat for 2013!

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Old 08-09-2013, 07:59 AM   #7
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Diane Marie.

Made a mistake. Set on small fish, thinking there was big fish underneath. Realized there was no big fish. Dumped the net back and the bag folded over on itself killing all of them. To the bottom they go.

Multiple witnesses, pictures video.

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They should redesign the net so that the purse can be opened if necessary.

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Old 08-09-2013, 08:38 AM   #9
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thought bft was harpoon/handline/rod&reel only??
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Old 08-09-2013, 09:10 AM   #10
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The seiners still have a quota and these dead rats are just a few pounds against the by catch allowance.

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Old 08-09-2013, 10:11 AM   #11
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On the flip side of the coin, tuna weren't worth #^&#^&#^&#^& prior to the seiners getting into the game years ago ?
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Old 08-09-2013, 01:57 PM   #12
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I heard all about this. I know it is a mistake but it is criminal. You just can not have kills like this. It can not happen, ever. I heard that they could not open the net and they all died. Why did they set in the first place on small fish? ...IMO, that's it, your done. your lic is permanently revoked forever and you are done fishing for a living, good day.

Are all these dead fish coming off the quota?...it should.
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Old 08-09-2013, 03:18 PM   #13
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Interesting, reading online looks like this story is just a repeat...same fish, same place, same boat.

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Old 08-09-2013, 03:58 PM   #14
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Thats the commercial mentality. Set on small fish with the hopes of high grading and tossing back the small fish.. Sad wasteful and totally greed based.
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Thats the commercial mentality. Set on small fish with the hopes of high grading and tossing back the small fish.. Sad wasteful and totally greed based.
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Not so Eben, they aren't even allowed to keep the small fish, so if they deliberately set on them all the work they have to do is for nothing. Someone just made a stupid mistake.

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Old 08-10-2013, 12:23 PM   #16
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Some should look up the history of the commercial tuna fishery.
It's the seiners who created the market and prior to them getting into the game, tuna wasn't worth crap.
Sold for cat food back on the 70s & early 80s.
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Some should look up the history of the commercial tuna fishery.
It's the seiners who created the market and prior to them getting into the game, tuna wasn't worth crap.
Sold for cat food back on the 70s & early 80s.
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Created the market or rose to meet market demand? Big change in the 80's was a huge rise in global sushi consumption.

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Spence.
You should stick to commenting on what you know.
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Talk to any older commercial tuna fisherman and they will educate you.







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Created the market or rose to meet market demand? Big change in the 80's was a huge rise in global sushi consumption.

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Spence.
You should stick to commenting on what you know.
Designer shoes and clothes.
Talk to any older commercial tuna fisherman and they will educate you.
Ah, I guess you didn't get the "?" at the end of my sentence. It's a fairly well accepted symbol that's used when someone is asking a question.

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Old 08-10-2013, 05:43 PM   #20
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Ah, I guess you didn't get the "?" at the end of my sentence. It's a fairly well accepted symbol that's used when someone is asking a question.

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Next time use proper spacing and I will notice the ? question mark.

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Old 08-11-2013, 06:16 AM   #21
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I don't think they created a market for tuna but I am sure they would like to tell you they did.

Look I have nothing against comm fishing but we have a horrible system of management and enforcement of regulations. Every comm guy out there will tell you everything is fine but that is only because they don't want any change that could effect their bottom line.

We can not have this kind of mass kill, ever. The bottom line is this guy should be done comm fishing for ever. And they need to look at the risks and harm of this method of fishing can do to the fishery long term. IMO it should be prohibited as I think it causes all kinds of unknown problems when you wipe out a large group of fish like that in a single swipe. We just witnessed what one of the other risks are when someone makes a mistake...whoopse! I just killed 1000 fish by mistake...my bad.
This can not happen. Personally I can not believe it is not getting more attn than it is.
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The japanese created the market....before they got into buying tuna UUUUUUU were lucky to get a nickel per lb.and at times U could not get a penny so U took them back out and dumped them.
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the evergrowing thirst for sushi will be the demise of this species. maybe we can get them to love dogfish sushi

my 1st wife didn't like me fishing so much
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I love my sushi = Salmon, Brown Rice, Spicy Sauce!!! Less mercury too.
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My old man took two to the dump in the 70s.

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Day after the CC tuna tournament early 70's outside Barnstable harbor, #1 ?,,, catch and release dead, they got some good pictures though
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Maybe PEW should use some of their megabucks to buy up those four remaining boats?

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The japanese created the market....before they got into buying tuna UUUUUUU were lucky to get a nickel per lb.and at times U could not get a penny so U took them back out and dumped them.



Prior to the seiners how often were fish from this part of the world shipped to Japan ?

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Prior to the seiners how often were fish from this part of the world shipped to Japan ?

I know that they were shipping tuna to japan in the 60's
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Update from yesterdays japanese auction.

At least 10 of the fish from the seiner are worthless. All burnt up from their malfunction in the net. Boat isn't going to get sh1t.

Such a waste.

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