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Old 10-06-2020, 10:05 PM   #91
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If true and Stephen Miller did get COVID; this is a turning point for the pandemic.

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Old 10-07-2020, 01:22 PM   #92
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A U.S. Postal Service mail carrier from Hudson County, New Jersey, was arrested for discarding mail, including 99 general election ballots sent from the County Board of Elections that were intended to be delivered to West Orange residents, U.S. Attorney Craig Carpenito announced.

Nicholas Beauchene, 26, of Kearny, is charged by complaint with one count of delay, secretion, or detention of mail and one count of obstruction of mail.

Beauchene is scheduled to appear Wednesday afternoon in Newark federal court.

According to court documents, roughly 1,875 pieces of mail – including 627 pieces of first class, 873 pieces of standard class, two pieces of certified mail, 99 general election ballots destined for residents in West Orange, and 276 campaign flyers from local candidates for West Orange Town Council and Board of Education – were recovered from dumpsters in North Arlington and West Orange on Oct. 2 and Oct. 5.

The intended destination for the ballots and campaign flyers are heavily Democratic areas.
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So any postal crime constitutes voting fraud?
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Old 10-07-2020, 03:55 PM   #94
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So any postal crime constitutes voting fraud?
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Old 10-07-2020, 04:00 PM   #95
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So what we're really seeing is a postal worker dumped some mail, 5% of which were ballots, for some unknown reason, and the USPS Inspector caught the guy and the mail was placed back in the system.

In other words the system worked.
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2 more attempts of voter suppression blocked.. seems Republicans dont love the American people as much as love trying to limit peoples right to vote



Judge Blocks Trump Campaign Attempt To Limit Use Of Drop Boxes In Pennsylvania

Federal judge blocks Texas governor's directive limiting ballot drop boxes to one per county
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Old 10-11-2020, 11:34 AM   #97
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Federal judge blocks Texas governor's directive limiting ballot drop boxes to one per county
One county was to have a single drop box for over four million residents.

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However, with the latest ruling from the Court of Appeal, the state can now continue limiting the number of drop-off points.

Texas has a limit on who can request absentee ballots. Only voters who are over 65, have a disability, are in jail or who will be out of town on election day are allowed to vote by post.

Governor Abbott's ruling means that some people in Harris County, home to more than four million, will only have one point in the entire county to hand in their ballot paper.


why would they want to restrict these people more ? their the only ones by law who can vote by absentee ballot anyway .

Makes no sense
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One county was to have a single drop box for over four million residents.


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I heard it was a uuuuuuge drop box
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However, with the latest ruling from the Court of Appeal, the state can now continue limiting the number of drop-off points.

Texas has a limit on who can request absentee ballots. Only voters who are over 65, have a disability, are in jail or who will be out of town on election day are allowed to vote by post.

Governor Abbott's ruling means that some people in Harris County, home to more than four million, will only have one point in the entire county to hand in their ballot paper.


why would they want to restrict these people more ? their the only ones by law who can vote by absentee ballot anyway .

Makes no sense
wayne, do you understand the difference between absentee ballots and mail out/mail in ballots yet?
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this should not be that tough...


How to vote
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Election Day is Tuesday, November 3, 2020. Texas offers absentee ballots by mail to voters who will be unable to vote in person. All other voters are expected to vote in person. Texas offers early voting.
Register to voteCheck registration statusRequest absentee ballot
Vote by mail
Review the absentee ballot application and confirm that you meet the eligibility requirements for voting absentee.
Fill out the application completely.
Submit the request to your local election office. You should request your ballot as far in advance of the election as possible. The deadline to request a ballot by mail is (received by) Friday, October 23, 2020.
When your ballot arrives, read it carefully and follow the instructions to complete it and return it.
Your ballot must be postmarked by Tuesday, November 3, 2020 by 7:00 p.m. and received no later than Wednesday, November 4, 2020 by 5:00 p.m. Your state does not offer ballot status tracking. Contact your state election officials for additional information.
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wayne, do you understand the difference between absentee ballots and mail out/mail in ballots yet?
There the same they only differ by name .. how is a drop box different from a mail box?

Do you understand why places have drop boxes?

BLAME Trumps rhetoric on mail in ballots people want to insure their vote gets counted because he's messing with the post office and fostering doubts


But this is the real reason why Trump and his campaign are against mail in ballots and drop boxes.

nineteen per cent of Trump supporters said that they planned to vote by mail, compared with sixty-nine per cent of Biden supporters

But please keep trying to suggest its something else. When it's clearly voter suppression
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California Republicans are allegedly setting up fake 'official' drop-off boxes to harvest ballots

The church posted on social media that the box was “approved and brought by the GOP.” The post said church officials don’t have a key to the box and that GOP officials picks up the ballots. A pastor for the church didn’t respond to a request for comment.

On its website, the Fresno County Republican Party also shared a list of “secure” ballot collection locations. None are official county drop box sites, with the local GOP instead listing its own headquarters, multiple gun shops and other local businesses.
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California Republicans are allegedly setting up fake 'official' drop-off boxes to harvest ballots
Wayne, you know what ballot harvesting is? ...right?
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Wayne, you know what ballot harvesting is? ...right?
wdmso thinks voter fraud is very rare . . . except he is able to find many instances of Republican voter fraud.
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wdmso thinks voter fraud is very rare . . . except he is able to find many instances of Republican voter fraud.
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There the same

no they are not...do you need me to explain the difference to you?
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People waiting ten hours in line to vote, yup it’s really been made easy to do your civic duty! I drove five minutes yesterday and dropped off my ballot, but that’s not happening where they don’t really want it to be that easy.
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People waiting ten hours in line to vote, yup it’s really been made easy to do your civic duty! I drove five minutes yesterday and dropped off my ballot, but that’s not happening where they don’t really want it to be that easy.
but somehow you managed....
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wdmso thinks voter fraud is very rare . . . except he is able to find many instances of Republican voter fraud.
Not fraud by Republicans. clear hypocrisy. From Republicans
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https://apnews.com/article/f5f6a73b2...816bb35e82c18d

Aug 3rd 2018. The now-disbanded voting integrity commission launched by the Trump administration uncovered no evidence to support claims of widespread voter fraud, according to an analysis of administration documents released Friday.

I guess they to suffer TDS. While the avg Trump supporters suffer from the lack of. Facts
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Old 10-13-2020, 09:52 AM   #112
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but somehow you managed....
Prob. bc there was more than 1 box for millions of people and he didn't have to drive hundreds of miles.

To bad the Repubs. didn't want to help others to "manage " to vote.
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Prob. bc there was more than 1 box for millions of people and he didn't have to drive hundreds of miles.

To bad the Repubs. didn't want to help others to "manage " to vote.
people have managed just fine for many years acting like responsible adult citizens...but according to democrats they are suddenly too stupid or lazy to do so...we don't need to "help" someone else vote unless they request help...like requesting an absentee ballot, which they can easily do...we don't need to go to their door, drag them out of the house and down to the polls to cast their vote which is basically where the democrats and their little fringe groups are at.......I assume adult Americans who want to vote will do so and are fully capable as has been done for years
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people have managed just fine for many years acting like responsible adult citizens...but according to democrats they are suddenly too stupid or lazy to do so...we don't need to "help" someone else vote unless they request help...like requesting an absentee ballot, which they can easily do...we don't need to go to their door, drag them out of the house and down to the polls to cast their vote which is basically where the democrats and their little fringe groups are at.......I assume adult Americans who want to vote will do so and are fully capable as has been done for years
no they haven't. it has frequently been a problem since the scummy Repub. have figured out that if everyone votes they won't win.
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no they haven't. it has frequently been a problem since the scummy Repub. have figured out that if everyone votes they won't win.
No one is being stopped from voting. It is up to the voters, if they want a particular person to win, to vote in whatever way is available to them. If they think that voting in person is too difficult, and they don't have a disability that prevents them from doing so, then they don't think it's all that important if their candidate wins or loses.
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people have managed just fine for many years acting like responsible adult citizens...but according to democrats they are suddenly too stupid or lazy to do so...we don't need to "help" someone else vote unless they request help...like requesting an absentee ballot, which they can easily do...we don't need to go to their door, drag them out of the house and down to the polls to cast their vote which is basically where the democrats and their little fringe groups are at.......I assume adult Americans who want to vote will do so and are fully capable as has been done for years
Wow so people having to wait in line up to ten hours are stupid and lazy, you are just intent on spreading the Trump and GOP bullcrap.
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No one is being stopped from voting. It is up to the voters, if they want a particular person to win, to vote in whatever way is available to them. If they think that voting in person is too difficult, and they don't have a disability that prevents them from doing so, then they don't think it's all that important if their candidate wins or loses.

some locations stretched more than five hours long, particularly in the Atlanta metro area.

I guess you dont see this as a problem.. So do I stand in line for 5 hrs and risk getting fired or losing a days Pay.. or do I stand in line for 5 hrs because some party removed polling places in the hopes I dont vote


5 hrs in line is voter suppression reguardless
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no they are not...do you need me to explain the difference to you?
sure i would love to hear how you think they are so different
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Wow so people having to wait in line up to ten hours are stupid and lazy, you are just intent on spreading the Trump and GOP bullcrap.
no..the stupid and lazy probably won't vote...the people waiting for ten hours probably didn't plan well

you don't think or read very well
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no..the stupid and lazy probably won't vote...the people waiting for ten hours probably didn't plan well

you don't think or read very well
OK must be bad planning, can't possibly anything but, MY BAD.
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