Illinois teen arrested in fatal shooting at Kenosha protest, police say

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by JohnR

By skin it is not fair treatment of the law - we have not reached fairness yet, and fully. Black people are proportionally targeted higher than others - it is not right and it is not fair. If the guy had a record or he beat his wife or had a rape charge, DV history, Assault with weapons charges can and SHOULD be a metric. Blowing up and defunding the entire system is not the answer.

But we don't know if the guy was reaching for something, clearly you are with the not other factors mattering or determined by investigation.

We are not having the conversation on what will really make strides to fix the system, we have people wanting to tear everything down because that will somehow be better - what a stupid effing thing to believe.

We are not trying to get where facts dictate what happened we are where narrative writes what to believe. We can't wait until the facts say George Floyd was wrongly murdered (likely, but the legal system needs to decide) and too many people ignore that Mike Brown was found the aggressor

We no longer take facts in the matter because "Hands Up Don't Shoot", meant to never happened with Michael Brown yet almost everyone thinks he said that and people shout it at every protest. And people then went out and executed cops in many places because reacting before understanding the facts.

Other black people have died because wrong decisions by cops and sheer stupidity, and it is wrong, happnes to white preople too. What is it by demographics? Is it outsized then too?

The vast majority of everyone thinks that



Of course MSNBC did. There is also a common thread since yesterday that the cops in Kenosha were giving the shooter water because



I am not buying your insanity, there is a difference.

"Other black people have died because wrong decisions by cops and sheer stupidity, and it is wrong, happnes to white preople too. What is it by demographics? Is it outsized then too?"

According to the National Academy of Sciences...if you look at the number of actual unarmed people killed by police by race...

if you compare that to national %s of race, it happens to blacks disproportionately.

If you compare it to the % of race that live in big cities (where most of these encounters happen), it's not disproportionate.

The entire democratic party, including all the liberals here and in the media, are acting no differently than Al Sharpton did at his worst. As soon as we hear there is an encounter, we scream racist assassination, before we know any facts. Facts don't matter. Winning in November matters. That's all that matters.

[spence]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

According to the National Academy of Sciences...if you look at the number of actual unarmed people killed by police by race...

if you compare that to national %s of race, it happens to blacks disproportionately.

If you compare it to the % of race that live in big cities (where most of these encounters happen), it's not disproportionate.

What about the unarmed black people like Jacob Blake that aren't killed? What about the unarmed black people who are pulled over, detained, searched, unjustly convicted etc... etc... etc...

You keep trying to misuse stats to deny anything is wrong. This is what this is all about.

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by spence

What about the unarmed black people like Jacob Blake that aren't killed? What about the unarmed black people who are pulled over, detained, searched, unjustly convicted etc... etc... etc...

You keep trying to misuse stats to deny anything is wrong. This is what this is all about.

Is anyone saying we shouldn't investigate? But let's get the facts first, before we decide it was nothing more than a racist assassination.

They tried tasing the guy, they gave him god knows how many lawful orders to comply. They didn't walk up behind him and shoot him in the back of the head.

If he had allowed them to arrest him without resisting, what do you think the chances are that he would have been shot?

Interesting you call him unarmed, when we now know there was a knife in the car, and he was trying to get into the car, so could well have been going for the knife. Also, if he gets in the car behind the wheel, he is no longer unarmed.

Always, put the most pro-liberal spin on everything. Always.

How about the cops who get assassinated for being cops? Have you ever, once, posted about them?