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I bit dry, some good humor and some very good responses. What does impress me is that he obviously understands the issues for which he's responsible for making decisions, and can articulate his position well.
"Well, obviously that was a problem or two, but overall, what fantastic effort, breaking the paradigm while reaching to all parties in an effort to forward the global commons. I'm impressed at this part Abe Lincoln, part Bill Gates, part Gandhi like figure."
Spencism: Start off with partial agreemement to establish commonality with poster, than redirect to other flowery aspects, real or imagined"
"Well, obviously that was a problem or two, but overall, what fantastic effort, breaking the paradigm while reaching to all parties in an effort to forward the global commons. I'm impressed at this part Abe Lincoln, part Bill Gates, part Gandhi like figure."
Spencism: Start off with partial agreemement to establish commonality with poster, than redirect to other flowery aspects, real or imagined"
BING F'N GO!
You have just nailed it! I was trying to put it into words, but you did a much better job than I would have.
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I guess I was hoping to see a President who could, umm, well, ahh, articulate himself well on a series of softball questions.
To be honest, I turned it on at 8:30 and the first question I saw was related to Rush Limbaugh and the state of the Republican Party. OK, thats real important. A couple more question, one about what was he most surprised, humbled, enchanted, etc., which he proceded to stumbled through (BTW, with all the chuckling with this one, was this what you think was "good humor"?). Then one on abortion, which he hemmed and hawed some more while answering. I couldn't watch anymore after that.
Like Jimmy said, it seemed like he was still campaigning and playing politics.
For someone that's fed everything from a teleprompter, he did a good job of creating the illusion that he was actually thinking of a response.
I miss the old days of a President that made up words, mispronounced anything over 2 syllables and often mixed up the two countries he decided to invade.
For someone that's fed everything from a teleprompter, he did a good job of creating the illusion that he was actually thinking of a response.
I miss the old days of a President that made up words, mispronounced anything over 2 syllables and often mixed up the two countries he decided to invade.
That's exactly the point, Obama is actually thinking up responses to the questions rather than just reciting the same tired talking points.
That's exactly the point, Obama is actually thinking up responses to the questions rather than just reciting the same tired talking points.
-spence
Spence he thought those answers up after the New York Times and the other rags emailed them to him. Your right he didn't need a prompt for that news conference. Enchanted............right
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For someone that's fed everything from a teleprompter, he did a good job of creating the illusion that he was actually thinking of a response.
I miss the old days of a President that made up words, mispronounced anything over 2 syllables and often mixed up the two countries he decided to invade.
come on guys, you;re trying way to hard. If someone in my workplace attended a meeting and answered questions like that he'd be labeled an idiot. Trust me, people have, and we call the idiots.
stop comparing him to Bush, compare him to good leaders.
Spence, what I mean is that (almost) regardless of the subject, if it is critical of the left you start off with a tiny slice of agreement and then drive the topic of discussion to other points, real or imagined.
No harm no foul. Like I said, I didn't even watch the event, so I cannot (and did not) form an opinion. But I did know how the flow and rhythm (a/k/a thr Spencism) would be for your response .
Spence, what I mean is that (almost) regardless of the subject, if it is critical of the left you start off with a tiny slice of agreement and then drive the topic of discussion to other points, real or imagined.
No harm no foul. Like I said, I didn't even watch the event, so I cannot (and did not) form an opinion. But I did know how the flow and rhythm (a/k/a thr Spencism) would be for your response .
Well, I work as a consultant focused on executive value messaging. I'd just take this as good discipline in forming arguments, which need to be properly structured to be consistently effective.
If this is somehow unique enough that it deserves a personalized ummm proper'ism, then I must be even more special than I had previously thought
Well, I work as a consultant focused on executive value messaging. I'd just take this as good discipline in forming arguments, which need to be properly structured to be consistently effective.
If this is somehow unique enough that it deserves a personalized ummm proper'ism, then I must be even more special than I had previously thought
-spence
Yuze makin' mah point.
You probably can fix all the world's problems in PowerPoint too
Sorry Spence, just making a note that your cadance, err, executive value messaging in debate, is pretty consistent. I suppose that is pretty good in many arenas
Well, I work as a consultant focused on executive value messaging. I'd just take this as good discipline in forming arguments, which need to be properly structured to be consistently effective.
If this is somehow unique enough that it deserves a personalized ummm proper'ism, then I must be even more special than I had previously thought
-spence
This explains a lot!
You are actually trained in "double-speak".
Hell, you actually make your living at it....
You should write speeches for Obama, you compose very eloquent posts that almost make a point/decision, but there always seems to be that "back door" to be able to "deny it all".....
Don't take this wrong Spence, you are one of the more competent liberals I've ran into to. Always a fun debate......
Back to the topic at hand i don't understand why all the criticism of how Obama thought and paused about answering the questions asked i mean ummm ammmm as in if the guy says something in the least bit one way or the other someone will be making a mountain out of a mole hill anyways so i can understand his pausing to answer.Considering the pressure he or for that matter anyone else that has been POTUS i think he handled himself well at least when you look into his eyes you know their is intelligence in there not like the last guy.
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Quite frankly, it didn't matter what happened during the press conference. Regardless of what happened or what was said, someone would have made a post critical of it and the "Let's hate anything Obama does" crowd jumps on the bandwagon.
Posts like this just make it clear that they're reaching for straws. People will bitch and complain about anything. I'm surprised we haven't heard any complaints about what the Obamas have chosen to put in their vegetable garden.
While legitimate concerns about some of Obama's policies do exist, much of it gets drowned out by the noise of pissing and moaning over because "he says ummm too much".
Quite frankly, it didn't matter what happened during the press conference. Regardless of what happened or what was said, someone would have made a post critical of it and the "Let's hate anything Obama does" crowd jumps on the bandwagon.
Posts like this just make it clear that they're reaching for straws. People will bitch and complain about anything. I'm surprised we haven't heard any complaints about what the Obamas have chosen to put in their vegetable garden.
While legitimate concerns about some of Obama's policies do exist, much of it gets drowned out by the noise of pissing and moaning over because "he says ummm too much".
Ummm Ahhh Ummmm.. sounds like the Bush bashers to me.
Posts like this just make it clear that they're reaching for straws. People will bitch and complain about anything......While legitimate concerns about some of Obama's policies do exist, much of it gets drowned out by the noise of pissing and moaning over because "he says ummm too much".
Not pissing or moaning, just said I wasn't impressed. If he's as sharp as you say he is you'd think he could put two sentences together a little quicker.
Not pissing or moaning, just said I wasn't impressed. If he's as sharp as you say he is you'd think he could put two sentences together a little quicker.
Sounds like you're asserting you believe you're smarter and more articulate?
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