But anyway, may he rest in peace

[wdmso]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

I think Trump, on balance, is an awful human being. Awful.

But a record-number of Americans polled in 2020, said they were better off after 4 years of his presidency. Never before had that many Americans said they were better off after 4 years of a president (Gallup does this poll every 4 years). Which is why I say that even though he's personally bad, the policies he advocated for, are things that Americans liked.

I would not want to live in a country where Trump was a dictator, for sure. Then he'd potentially be dangerous. In our country, with the checks and balances, he's not really metaphysically dangerous.

I don't recall Trump's justice department flagging people as domestic terrorists who express opinions at Board of Ed meetings. Bidens DOJ is doing that. That’s not dangerous?

I don't recall Trumps IRS being used as a club against people who disagree with his politics. Obama's IRS did that. That’s not dangerous?

I'll judge Trump, like I do everyone, based on everything they do. I don't ignore the good (if the potus is in the other party) or the bad (if the potus is in my party).

Nightfighter, was it a good thing Trump did, when he donated his jet (when the airlines refused to do so) to fly that kid across country?

Was that a kind act, yes or no?

Jim seem you missed Trump trying to overthrow a legitimate election. Via his justice department and any other department that would possibly help. But In your revisionists history everything’s equal
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[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by wdmso

Jim seem you missed Trump trying to overthrow a legitimate election. Via his justice department and any other department that would possibly help. But In your revisionists history everything’s equal
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trump deserves all kinds of heat for looking into that. i don’t know that he actually tried to do it. i know that in january 6, he told the crowd explicitly to be peaceful
and patriotic, he used those exact words in that day. but for sure, he considered some potentially scary things. which is exactly why i said i wouldn’t want him to be a dictator. i’m not revising history, i’m the one who considers everything he did. you’re the one who refuses to accept that he ever did anything good. that’s revising history.

now can you please answer
my question? why did you post that the kid that trump helped died, and that his father was accused of financial mis-doings?

you posted it, so clearly you saw that as a rebuttal that trump is capable of doing anything good. i’d like to know why.

we have this routine, you and i. i answer your questions directly, and you dodge mine.
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[nightfighter]

Seriously? You really want to go on record here, where your posts can be quoted and held forth for prosperity, making a case for Trump's moral character based on donating a jet to ferry a sick kid?

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by nightfighter

Seriously? You really want to go on record here, where your posts can be quoted and held forth for prosperity, making a case for Trump's moral character based on donating a jet to ferry a sick kid?

that post was clearly response to the post i quoted, where someone said trump doesn’t have an ethical bone in his body, or some such liberal nonsense.

i hate trump. can’t stand him. but the fact is, he’s done some good things, helped some people. that’s simply the truth. that truth scares some people because it undermines their political agenda. that’s not my problem.


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[scottw]

if you didn't know what he said and you read this thread.... you'd think he said "rot in hell"...trump derangement syndrome...you guys know he isn't president anymore....right?

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by scottw

if you didn't know what he said and you read this thread.... you'd think he said "rot in hell"...trump derangement syndrome...you guys know he isn't president anymore....right?

trump wasn’t even wrong, Powell was one of the key architects of america’s worst foreign disaster since the vietnam war.

when george bush dies, people
won’t be shy about connecting him to the iraq war. and there’s nothing wrong with mentioning that connection, because it’s true.

TDS, boy. what else are they going to focus on? great jobs reports? low inflation? low crime? a secure border?
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[wdmso]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

trump wasn’t even wrong, Powell was one of the key architects of america’s worst foreign disaster since the vietnam war.

when george bush dies, people
won’t be shy about connecting him to the iraq war. and there’s nothing wrong with mentioning that connection, because it’s true.

TDS, boy. what else are they going to focus on? great jobs reports? low inflation? low crime? a secure border?
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Jim echoing the rights mantra

Trump wasn’t wrong

FYI

Jim the borders haven’t changed
Jobs are fine just nobody wants the #^&#^&#^&#^& ones
Crime is crime still lower than decades ago
And inflationary trends are world wide
You left out the stock market is still breaking records

And unemployment is 4.5%

Here are some Trump stats from his term


The economy lost 2.9 million jobs.

The unemployment rate increased by 1.6 percentage points to 6.3%.

After-tax corporate profits went up, and the stock market set new records.
The international trade deficit Trump promised to reduce went up. The U.S. trade deficit in goods and services in 2020 was the highest since 2008 and increased 40.5% from 2016.

The number of people lacking health insurance rose by 3 million.

The federal debt held by the public went up, from $14.4 trillion to $21.6 trillion.
Home prices rose 27.5%,

Illegal immigration increased. Apprehensions at the Southwest border rose 14.7% last year compared with 2016.

Coal production declined 26.5%, and coal-mining jobs dropped by 16.7%. Carbon emissions from energy consumption dropped 11.5%.

Handgun production rose 12.5% last year compared with 2016, setting a new record.

The murder rate last year rose to the highest level since 1997.

Trump filled one-third of the Supreme Court, nearly 30% of the appellate court seats and a quarter of District Court seats.

Biden still got 3.4 years to go but we know how the Republicans plan obstructing anything. No matter how many Americans want it or will benefit from Dems legislation …

Republicans are even against national holiday to vote.. can’t have Americans voting in large numbers they don’t vote Republican
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[wdmso]

Originally Posted by scottw

if you didn't know what he said and you read this thread.... you'd think he said "rot in hell"...trump derangement syndrome...you guys know he isn't president anymore....right?

Maybe you should tell his supporters he isn’t president.. seeing you’re not one to pay attention to what is actually going on in the. World . unless it’s grammatically incorrect .
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[scottw]

Originally Posted by wdmso

Maybe you should tell his supporters he isn’t president..

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I'll let them know at the Insurrection Part Deux meeting next Tuesday night