sh*thole countries

[Nebe]

Originally Posted by Cool Beans

I think all of our "Noble" liberals should go one step further. It's not fair if we take their people in, without doing something more to help these sheithole countries. I believe that all of our Noble and caring liberal friends should volunteer to do a 1 for 1 swap with the US, for every person we take in, we send them one highly qualified liberal or socialist to improve the sheithole country that the immigrant came from.

Or even better, also add to this, each immigrant is assigned a loving caring liberal sponsor to help them in their goal at becoming successful members of the community.

This would be a win win for everyone.
The sheithole countries immigrants can come here and be mentored properly to become contributing Democrat voters.
Our caring liberal friends feel better about themselves as they improve a sheithole country.
While the rest of us, can sit back and relax knowing that all of our liberal friends are out doing "the greater good" while we care to national defense and the economy

Better yet. Why don’t you spend some time in a #^&#^&#^&#^&hole country. Learn to appreciate how you are viewed by the rest of the world and then if you can grasp empathy, perhaps you will understand the roots of terrorism and why terrorists attack innocent Americans
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[PaulS]

Originally Posted by Nebe

Better yet. Why don’t you spend some time in a #^&#^&#^&#^&hole country. Learn to appreciate how you are viewed by the rest of the world and then if you can grasp empathy, perhaps you will understand the roots of terrorism and why terrorists attack innocent Americans
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Usually eveyone just ignores him.

[Cool Beans]

Originally Posted by Nebe

Better yet. Why don’t you spend some time in a #^&#^&#^&#^&hole country. Learn to appreciate how you are viewed by the rest of the world and then if you can grasp empathy, perhaps you will understand the roots of terrorism and why terrorists attack innocent Americans
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20 years active duty navy, stationed in Japan for 6 years, completed three 6 month deployments to the Gulf and three 6 month deployments to South America. I have been to just about every country in South America and Asia. We as a country cannot feed and help the world by bringing their people to America. Our resources are finite and in the end all you will do is make the US just as bad.

We need to stop giving "handouts" and start giving jobs and opportunity. Want to immigrate to the US, we should have a job site, where people can view jobs and locations, apply for the job, get hired, pass a back ground check and poof, now you are a legal immigrant that is helping the country and not hindering it.

We are the "Land of Opportunity", not "Lactation Nation" where we breast feed you from cradle to grave. Try to feed the world and you will end up very dried up and sagging to your knees.

Immigration should be connected with employment and opportunity and not based entirely on charity.

[Nebe]

Originally Posted by Cool Beans

20 years active duty navy, stationed in Japan for 6 years, completed three 6 month deployments to the Gulf and three 6 month deployments to South America. I have been to just about every country in South America and Asia. We as a country cannot feed and help the world by bringing their people to America. Our resources are finite and in the end all you will do is make the US just as bad.

We need to stop giving "handouts" and start giving jobs and opportunity. Want to immigrate to the US, we should have a job site, where people can view jobs and locations, apply for the job, get hired, pass a back ground check and poof, now you are a legal immigrant that is helping the country and not hindering it.

We are the "Land of Opportunity", not "Lactation Nation" where we breast feed you from cradle to grave. Try to feed the world and you will end up very dried up and sagging to your knees.

Immigration should be connected with employment and opportunity and not based entirely on charity.

Thank you for your service. And yes, jobs would be nice. But wait. Done you want to make America great and do t those jobs need to be here in the US?

This is the conundrum.
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[Cool Beans]

Originally Posted by Nebe

Thank you for your service. And yes, jobs would be nice. But wait. Done you want to make America great and do t those jobs need to be here in the US?

This is the conundrum.
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Jobs and opportunity are good for Americans and legal immigrants alike.

If they are immigrating to the US, then yes the jobs should be in the US.

[Got Stripers]

Originally Posted by Cool Beans

20 years active duty navy, stationed in Japan for 6 years, completed three 6 month deployments to the Gulf and three 6 month deployments to South America. I have been to just about every country in South America and Asia. We as a country cannot feed and help the world by bringing their people to America. Our resources are finite and in the end all you will do is make the US just as bad.

We need to stop giving "handouts" and start giving jobs and opportunity. Want to immigrate to the US, we should have a job site, where people can view jobs and locations, apply for the job, get hired, pass a back ground check and poof, now you are a legal immigrant that is helping the country and not hindering it.

We are the "Land of Opportunity", not "Lactation Nation" where we breast feed you from cradle to grave. Try to feed the world and you will end up very dried up and sagging to your knees.

Immigration should be connected with employment and opportunity and not based entirely on charity.

First, thanks for your service. I agree that immigration should be tied to jobs, value or education. I certainly agree we enable far too many in this country to just coast on the free ride, but while I don't know the percentages; I'd bet the majority of those freeloaders are born and breed right here. I agree with states tying medicaid to jobs or volunteer work, if you are able bodied you should be working for the free meal or housing.

This thread started out of disgust for the comments made by our super sensitive POTUS, I don't think we were talking about feeding the world. Helping a select group of motivated and smart individuals get out of their sh*thole countries to either help our economy or to get educated to return and help their country is smart and proactive on our part. The more educated and resourceful immigrants we return to help their sh*thole countries, the less of a burden they are to those countries assisting them financially or with relief efforts.

[wdmso]

Originally Posted by Cool Beans

20 years active duty navy, stationed in Japan for 6 years, completed three 6 month deployments to the Gulf and three 6 month deployments to South America. I have been to just about every country in South America and Asia. We as a country cannot feed and help the world by bringing their people to America. Our resources are finite and in the end all you will do is make the US just as bad.

We need to stop giving "handouts" and start giving jobs and opportunity. Want to immigrate to the US, we should have a job site, where people can view jobs and locations, apply for the job, get hired, pass a back ground check and poof, now you are a legal immigrant that is helping the country and not hindering it.



We are the "Land of Opportunity", not "Lactation Nation" where we breast feed you from cradle to grave. Try to feed the world and you will end up very dried up and sagging to your knees.

Immigration should be connected with employment and opportunity and not based entirely on charity.

if you spent that much time in the navy you have seen the true face of immigration of those who stood next to you .. or did you treat them with the same arrogance and mis information you display here..

its a republican fantasy that immigration is based on charity ! thats the story it tell its base before they go to bed same with chain migration ... a lie

the current system is a republican design .. they had prayed that immigration was going to come from western europe and when they got here they would bring their families who were like them and all would be safe and white

but in the 70-and 80s the demographic change it was Africa and south Americans (brown people ) who came legally and brought their families under the system that republicans built..

Nigerians will 'never go back to their huts'
Haitians immigrants 'all have AIDS'
Lottery program sends us 'their worst'
Mexico is sending 'rapists' and 'drug dealers'

So feel free to keep defending this embarrassment

[Cool Beans]

Originally Posted by wdmso

if you spent that much time in the navy you have seen the true face of immigration of those who stood next to you .. or did you treat them with the same arrogance and mis information you display here..

its a republican fantasy that immigration is based on charity ! thats the story it tell its base before they go to bed same with chain migration ... a lie

the current system is a republican design .. they had prayed that immigration was going to come from western europe and when they got here they would bring their families who were like them and all would be safe and white

but in the 70-and 80s the demographic change it was Africa and south Americans (brown people ) who came legally and brought their families under the system that republicans built..

Nigerians will 'never go back to their huts'
Haitians immigrants 'all have AIDS'
Lottery program sends us 'their worst'
Mexico is sending 'rapists' and 'drug dealers'

So feel free to keep defending this embarrassment

WOW! I am sorry I had no idea of the extent of your mental illness. If I offended you in any way please tell your Mommy that I am sorry that she raised a very "special" little boy/girl....

You didnt read a word I said or put even an ounce of thought into your reply, it's just utter nonsense...

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by Cool Beans

WOW! I am sorry I had no idea of the extent of your mental illness. ...

It's called liberalism. A tragic affliction that I wouldn't wish on anyone.

[wdmso]

Originally Posted by Cool Beans

WOW! I am sorry I had no idea of the extent of your mental illness. If I offended you in any way please tell your Mommy that I am sorry that she raised a very "special" little boy/girl....

You didnt read a word I said or put even an ounce of thought into your reply, it's just utter nonsense...

your very clear on you stance .. and how you feel about immigrants.. the only mental illness is your reasoning when it comes to immigration and how it works...

Even with all these immigrants from these #^&#^&#^&#^& hole country's and all the bad they bring (according to republicans) unemployment is at an all time low the markets up ... and republicans still want to blame immigration and keep the Base happy ( they are all still here and the sky hasn't fallen)

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by wdmso

your very clear on you stance .. and how you feel about immigrants.. the only mental illness is your reasoning when it comes to immigration and how it works...

Even with all these immigrants from these #^&#^&#^&#^& hole country's and all the bad they bring (according to republicans) unemployment is at an all time low the markets up ... and republicans still want to blame immigration and keep the Base happy all still here and the sky hasn't fallen)

One thing that I sincerely admire about liberals, is that they want those at the bottom to get ahead. Liberals like to bemoan that those at the bottom, don't see rising wages. Part of the reason why, is that between legel/illegal immigration, we have millions of penniless, unskilled workers, willing to work for next to nothing.

WDMSO, when you increase the supply of something, do you know what happens to the value of that something? It decreases. It is beyond dispute, that immigration has limited the ability of poor Americans to earn more.

That is a fact. And it's worth considering, when detailing immigration policy. We can't act like there's no downside.

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Originally Posted by Jim in CT

It is beyond dispute, that immigration has limited the ability of poor Americans to earn more.

This is up there with the most absurd things ever said in this forum.
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[wdmso]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

One thing that I sincerely admire about liberals, is that they want those at the bottom to get ahead. Liberals like to bemoan that those at the bottom, don't see rising wages. Part of the reason why, is that between legel/illegal immigration, we have millions of penniless, unskilled workers, willing to work for next to nothing.

WDMSO, when you increase the supply of something, do you know what happens to the value of that something? It decreases. It is beyond dispute, that immigration has limited the ability of poor Americans to earn more.

That is a fact. And it's worth considering, when detailing immigration policy. We can't act like there's no downside.

Immigration arguments like yours is like saying don't pee in the ocean it will turn it yellow ...
Immigration has no effect on poor American to earn more . But keep thinking that's why poor Americans are poor .... because of immigrants .. you nailed it

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Originally Posted by Jim in CT

WDMSO, when you increase the supply of something, do you know what happens to the value of that something? It decreases. It is beyond dispute, that immigration has limited the ability of poor Americans to earn more.

That is a fact. And it's worth considering, when detailing immigration policy. We can't act like there's no downside.

This has been studied a lot and found that it's really not true. Many immigrants aren't low skilled and fill gaps in the workplace. A lot of low-skilled labor based jobs Americans simply don't want. Farmers that rely on immigrant workers continually face labor shortages.

I'm sure you can find some specific anecdotes where it's the case but in a general sense doesn't seem to pan out.