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02-29-2016, 01:18 PM
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We've discussed this many times. Take out giving to churches and the #s are very close. My largest charity is to my church.
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02-29-2016, 01:31 PM
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Originally Posted by PaulS
We've discussed this many times. Take out giving to churches and the #s are very close. My largest charity is to my church.
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Agreed, it's very close, even with churches. I wasn't saying that conservatives are far more generous than liberals, so your pointing out the fact about churches, in no way responds to what I said.
YOU were the one who made th ecomment that democrats show compassion, implying to me, that you don't feel that conservatives share that compassion. That's demonstrably false. Unless I missed what you meant when you said this:
"They (Democrats) show some compassion for those that need a helping hand.
How is that?
What do Repub. do for Black people? "
The liberal policies that have been born out of that compassion, have been an abject disaster for blacks. Look at the urban areas that democrats have controled unilaterally for 40 years. Are they better, or worse, after 40 years of liberal rule, Paul?
If I asked you, or Spence, or Rockhound this question, how would you respond? Here's the question - please tell me what evidence there is, other than popular perception, that liberals care more about blacks than conservatives do? Seriously, how would you respond to that? |
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02-29-2016, 01:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Jim in CT
If I asked you, or Spence, or Rockhound this question, how would you respond? Here's the question - please tell me what evidence there is, other than popular perception, that liberals care more about blacks than conservatives do? Seriously, how would you respond to that?
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I can't answer for them but the policies of the 2 parties differs greatly. The Rep. always blame the problems of blacks and the poor as being no fault of anyone but themselves and say "look at so and so. They picked themselves up from a terrrible beginning and made a success of themselves. Why can't Blacks do it". The Dems. try to help those people by funding pre-k, headstart and other social service orgs. Tough to become a success if you're going to school w/an empty stomach, dirty clothes and you haven't been read to the night before.
Studies have shown that someone raised in poverty has very little chance these days of raising out of the economic class they were born to.
I used the word compassion and you attached a link to a story about giving. Certainly you can have compassion w/o giving $ (volunteering) but a lot depends on $. People aren't going to give $ for someone else to get food stamps or fund a pre K.
Waiting for Buckman to respond. Maybe he can tell me a little about the pandering?
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02-29-2016, 02:02 PM
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Waiting for Buckman to respond. Maybe he can tell me a little about the pandering?
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Come on! When Hilary goes to a black precinct and she CHANGES HER DIALECT to sound more black, that's not pandering? |
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03-01-2016, 08:15 AM
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Originally Posted by Jim in CT
If I asked you, or Spence, or Rockhound this question, how would you respond? Here's the question - please tell me what evidence there is, other than popular perception, that liberals care more about blacks than conservatives do? Seriously, how would you respond to that?
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Oh lookie, a political scientist studied this issue...
https://www.evernote.com/shard/s4/sh...713003733a.pdf |
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03-01-2016, 08:22 AM
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Your link doesn't work either
Posted from my iPhone/Mobile device |
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03-01-2016, 08:45 AM
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Your link doesn't work. Can you give me the cliffs notes version? |
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03-01-2016, 10:10 AM
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I saw notihng in there that explains why blacks in places in Hartford and Bridgeport, are better off under Democratic leadership, than they would be under Republican leadership.
Sorry Spence. You can't measure what doesn't exist, and no data exists to tell us whether or not the people of Hartford would be better off if the Tea Party was running the show. There is overwhelming empirical evidence to show that after 40 yeras of Democrat rule, they are far worse off. It's possible that conservatives would have done even worse, but we can't know. Because pepole like you cannot say out loud, that what we have been doing, has been a disaster. And somehow, you think that means you care more about them than I do.
Have fun with that. |
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03-01-2016, 09:33 AM
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For a minute I thought this might have been hosted on Hillarys server and she deleted it by mistake.
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"If you're arguing with an idiot, make sure he isn't doing the same thing."
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