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07-08-2016, 12:28 PM
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Face it cons. have no empathy and no sympathy for minorities and that it why it is going to be harder and harder for a R to get elected president.
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100% wrong about that Paul, that is your perception
I have plenty of empathy and sympathy and I am conservative because I choose to live within my means, support those who cannot support themselves, follow the constitution, not trample on it and obey the laws of our once great nation.
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It's time more people spoke up with the truth. Every time we let a leftist lie go uncorrected, the commies get stronger.
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07-08-2016, 12:44 PM
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100% wrong about that Paul, that is your perception
I have plenty of empathy and sympathy and I am conservative because I choose to live within my means, support those who cannot support themselves, follow the constitution, not trample on it and obey the laws of our once great nation.
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Sorry you feel we aren't a great nation anymore.
So would you support the increased spending on programs that help minorities more than whites (things like pre school programs, etc)?
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07-08-2016, 12:41 PM
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Cops are the people in society that we have charged to protect and serve ALL citizens in the US. If some citizens don't think they are being treated fairly, they have a right to protest peacefully. Every stat shows minorities (blacks) get treated worse by the criminal justice system. I'm sure if Jackson didn't talk about it, some conservative politician (Trump?) would do it instead - right?
THose are 2 different issues totally (and I laugh when conservatives always bring up the murder the rate in Chicago when Blacks protest police shootings). Face it cons. have no empathy and no sympathy for minorities and that it why it is going to be harder and harder for a R to get elected president.
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I am sorry to say you dodged my question completely.
I never said that legitimate police abuse should not be addressed. What I said, is that's what liberals obsess over (even though we both admitted that's a minor cause of black tragedy), and liberals almost never talk about what causes a huge majority of black tragedies (black on black violence, caused by a complete breakdown of family values).
We both know that you could not answer my question without admitting that your side is ignoring a genuine epidemic, in order to fabricate another epidemic, one which better serves the liberal agenda.
True cop racism is nowhere near the issue for the black community, compared to the cultural genocide that's taking place in urban areas. Yet cop racism is what gets 95% of liberals attention. As we saw last night, that has catastrophic effects.
And then here comes Obama, who naturally isn't going to concede that his hate speech had anything to do with it. Instead, he calls for gun control.
Amazing! Yesterday, Obama told America that cops are executing our citizens. Today, he is saying that we'd all be safer if only cops had guns.
He's a flip-flopping, racist moron. And he feels at least as much hate as you accuse me of, yet I never see you lament that. No one who feels that Al Sharpton can have a productive influence on race relations, is to be taken seriously.
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07-08-2016, 12:49 PM
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Face it cons. have no empathy and no sympathy for minorities and that it why it is going to be harder and harder for a R to get elected president.
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"Face it cons. have no empathy and no sympathy for minorities"
Paul, where does your hate come from? How does it feel to have so much hate? See what I did there?
It's also pure horesh*t. Please tell us, what do you base that on? I'd just love to see your facts that back that up.
It will make it harder to get elected POTUS. It's based on nonsense. But it's effective (clearly, it even fooled you), so liberals keep making that claim. They never seem to provide the logic to back it up, I notice...
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07-08-2016, 01:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Jim in CT
"Face it cons. have no empathy and no sympathy for minorities"
Paul, where does your hate come from? How does it feel to have so much hate? See what I did there?
It's also pure horesh*t. Please tell us, what do you base that on? I'd just love to see your facts that back that up.
It will make it harder to get elected POTUS. It's based on nonsense. But it's effective (clearly, it even fooled you), so liberals keep making that claim. They never seem to provide the logic to back it up, I notice...
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You're right. I'm sure the Rs will soon have then next President.
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07-09-2016, 08:23 AM
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"black lives matter" ....some (a lot) of its followers/supporters are celebrating and calling for more cop killings...totally disgusting.
Ferguson affect is taking hold and making a difficult job more dangerous than ever, cops can't even make an arrest in a lot of places without a crowd taunting them. Places like Chicago, the police have taken a step back, gangs rule the streets with multiple murders every day of the week no outrage from blm or potus.
Thank a policeman today for keeping us safe from what would be absolute chaos without them.
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07-10-2016, 07:13 AM
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Yesterday, Obama told blacks that white cops are out to get them.
Source ? Is this a direct quote or your interpretation of something that was said
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07-08-2016, 10:45 AM
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They (white cops) prob. approach a black suspect in a manor that leads to these type of incidents.
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Baseless nonsense. I saw the video of the guy in Baton Rouge, he fought the cops every step of the way. They gave him verbal commands, he fought. They tasered him, he fought. They tried to wrestle him, he fought.
If, at any time, that idiot simply complied, no sane person thinks he'd still be dead. And if the cops were out to hunt a black man, why did they give him so many chances to surrender peaceably?
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07-08-2016, 11:02 AM
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Baseless nonsense. I saw the video of the guy in Baton Rouge, he fought the cops every step of the way. They gave him verbal commands, he fought. They tasered him, he fought. They tried to wrestle him, he fought.
If, at any time, that idiot simply complied, no sane person thinks he'd still be dead. And if the cops were out to hunt a black man, why did they give him so many chances to surrender peaceably?
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How about the guy who was just shot in the car ? How can you defend that ?
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07-08-2016, 11:18 AM
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How about the guy who was just shot in the car ? How can you defend that ?
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I'm not defending it. Where did I defend that? I also don't think we know yet, that he was shot for no reason, any more than we knew that the cop in Ferguson was guilty, or any more than we knew that the Duke lacrosse players were guilty.
Obama's Justice Dept will investigate. Let's calm down until we know what happened.
I will plead guilty to this, I give the cops the benefit of the doubt. I can be convinced otherwise, but just because the cop is white and the deceased is black, that's not evidence of racism. But it's enough for the shameless race baiters like Sharpton and Obama.
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07-08-2016, 11:27 AM
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How about the guy who was just shot in the car ? How can you defend that ?
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Maybe after more facts come out it can be defended rather than just based on an 'after the event' witness video. Why was the officer dealing with the passenger, was he done with the driver? Seems as though you have already convicted the Asian cop as a racist murderer.
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07-08-2016, 04:05 PM
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How about the guy who was just shot in the car ? How can you defend that ?
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What got me wondering was this:
If your boyfriend/girlfriend is driving the car, and you get shot by a cop / thug, wouldn't you think they'd be just a little more emotional about you being shot? Wouldn't you think that taking a selfie-video explaining what happened like you were explaining how to open a door is a little weird? Even the "kid" in the back seat wasn't making any noise (based on the video the girlfriend posted to Facebook) AS IT HAPPENED!
The guy told the police he had a weapon, and was reaching behind him (for his wallet?). Now exactly how many police would have to be shot/killed by someone making the same motions before they can react accordingly?
Sad to say, but he may have caused his own death by virtue of moving at the wrong time. Is the cop at fault? Maybe so if his commands were unclear.
Here's another thing...she was driving, so because the police stop was due to a busted tail light, she would be the one to need the license and registration. Now in the course of the traffic stop a passenger ADMITS to having a gun, and then starts digging/reaching for something behind him or in his pockets, what are the police supposed to do or better yet what should they think?
Unfortunately the police have become a target for thugs, druggies, pushers and any number of worthless low-life scum.
Add to that willingly editing and misrepresenting the facts by the media and ALL politicians and the posting of cell videos by so-called "concerned citizens" and the police have to be so politically correct that they can't do their job as intended.
They have to be careful not to offend anyone or risk public scorn because some scumbag's friend took a video of their arrest/shooting that didn't show what started the event but ONLY the outcome. Sure, cop-cameras would solve a lot of these problems but I doubt the public would believe a cop-camera video over the victims friend.
Hey, what about the black man that was shot by an off-duty white cop in Brooklyn? He got out of his car, ran up to the cop's car and began pummeling him through the driver's window. Repeated haymakers to the head and face before the cop shot him twice.
Once in the head, once in the chest.
This thugs girlfriend told police that the cop got out of his car and approached her "good-guy" boyfriend before shooting him dead.
A local business owner has provided video proof to the contrary, proving the thug attacked the cop and paid the price for it.
Notice the media and the political wh*res aren't harping about that one?
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07-08-2016, 12:47 PM
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So a murder committed by a criminal should be lumped in with the execution by a cop of someone pulled over for a broken taillight who was getting his license like he was asked - that is hilarious.
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07-08-2016, 12:50 PM
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So a murder committed by a criminal should be lumped in with the execution by a cop of someone pulled over for a broken taillight who was getting his license like he was asked - that is hilarious.
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No one said we should ignore true police brutality. No one said that a cop committing murder is the same as a criminal committing murder.
A certain sign that I have beaten a liberal, is when they start responding to things that I never said, but rather, they respond to jibberish that no one even came close to saying.
You are coming un-glued.
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07-08-2016, 01:32 PM
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Your wife is aware you call woman the C word? Does she approve of that? If my wife heard me call someone that she throw her shoe at me.
The vast majority of people view the use of that word as offensive.
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07-08-2016, 01:46 PM
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Your wife is aware you call woman the C word? Does she approve of that? If my wife heard me call someone that she throw her shoe at me.
The vast majority of people view the use of that word as offensive.
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She is aware of it. She doesn't like it. But she knows that if I describe Hilary that way, I am more accurate, than say, you are when you say conservatives have no sympathy for minorities. You see, when I call Hilary that word, I can fill the Pacific Ocean with accurate examples of why I think of her that way. When I ask you why you say conservatives don't care about minorities, the best you can come up with is "I hear it all the time".
I also hear all the time, from your side, that Chicjk Fil A hates gays. Funny what the Florida Chick Fil-A's did (quietly) for the gay community after the terror attack there. Just because you hear something, doesn't make it remotely true. I keep hearing from your side that white cops are targeting black men. I hear that all the time. Because I hear it all the time, doesn't make it less asinine.
Liberals (as a group) cannot find a way to admit that someone can disagree with them, and still be a good person.
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07-08-2016, 01:49 PM
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The vast majority of people view the use of that word as offensive.
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Here's why I don't particularly care about that. Many of the people who are offended by that word, have no problem claiming tirelessly that conservatives are racist, sexist, homophobic, Islamophobic, etc.... Any rational person finds that offensive. So what's good for the goose...
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07-08-2016, 01:57 PM
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Here's why I don't particularly care about that. Many of the people who are offended by that word, have no problem claiming tirelessly that conservatives are racist, sexist, homophobic, Islamophobic, etc.... Any rational person finds that offensive. So what's good for the goose...
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Not if it is true
see your Presidential candidate. Somehow he beat everyone in the primaries. Most have been all the lib. crossing over and voting for him in the primaries.
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07-08-2016, 02:02 PM
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Not if it is true
see your Presidential candidate. Somehow he beat everyone in the primaries. Most have been all the lib. crossing over and voting for him in the primaries.
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Correct, not if it's true. In this case, it's laughably false.
Oh, you are gong to judge all conservatives by the character of our 2016 candidate? I forgot about Hilary's morality, honesty, integrity, and ethics!! Many conservatives are embarrassed by Trump, especially me. I don't know many liberals who are ashamed of Hilary. Can I similarly say that all liberals are extremely careless, and couldn't find the truth in a bucket with both hands? Paul, you tee'd that one up for me nicely.
In 2008 and 2012, were you saying that all liberals were racist jerks because of who your candidate was in those years?
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07-08-2016, 02:16 PM
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Correct, not if it's true. In this case, it's laughably false.
Oh, you are gong to judge all conservatives by the character of our 2016 candidate? I forgot about Hilary's morality, honesty, integrity, and ethics!! Many conservatives are embarrassed by Trump, especially me. I don't know many liberals who are ashamed of Hilary. Can I similarly say that all liberals are extremely careless, and couldn't find the truth in a bucket with both hands? Paul, you tee'd that one up for me nicely.
In 2008 and 2012, were you saying that all liberals were racist jerks because of who your candidate was in those years?
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Jim,
As I have previously, I'm making fun of you bc of all your stereotypes. Find 1 thing about what you don't like with a person in 1 political party and apply that to the whole party.
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07-08-2016, 03:14 PM
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I picked up Mikey's first contact lenses and waited for a non English speaking family that was before us in the line. When they left the store, the clerk let out a sigh and muttered something about more free glasses for these types.
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07-08-2016, 07:12 PM
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I picked up Mikey's first contact lenses and waited for a non English speaking family that was before us in the line. When they left the store, the clerk let out a sigh and muttered something about more free glasses for these types.
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I am sure that has happened many times in our history its not new or surprising
the 3 rd generation French American standing behind the german immigrant or the Rich new yorker standing behind the the Irish guy right off the boat or me standing behind the 80year old Portuguese
lady speaking Portuguese to the cashier at Stop and Shop ... today
and yet the USA is still Great why do you think people want to come here Just for free stuff the stuff that illegals can't and dont get because they are Illegal
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07-10-2016, 09:13 AM
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and yet the USA is still Great why do you think people want to come here Just for free stuff the stuff that illegals can't and dont get because they are Illegal
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U R wrong, illegals do get benefits...the one benefit that illegals get is emergency medical care, but it gets complicated, if they have children that R born in the USA they get welfare, food stamps legally....but alot of illegals get forged documents saying they R U.S. citizens and of course get benefits.
here is a true example of emergency care,this happened on a friends property....illegal climbs tree to cut a tree limb was not hired by owner....falls out of tree, breaks back taken to hospital....250 thou hospital bill paid by tax payers
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"When its not about money,it's all about money."...
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07-10-2016, 01:47 PM
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U R wrong, illegals do get benefits...the one benefit that illegals get is emergency medical care, but it gets complicated, if they have children that R born in the USA they get welfare, food stamps legally....but alot of illegals get forged documents saying they R U.S. citizens and of course get benefits.
here is a true example of emergency care,this happened on a friends property....illegal climbs tree to cut a tree limb was not hired by owner....falls out of tree, breaks back taken to hospital....250 thou hospital bill paid by tax payers
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And if he was a heroin addicted American High and fell from the tree or got narcaned 3 times in a day the tax payer would have still paid the bill cuz hes or shes on Mass health .. there is still more way more Legal lossers scamming but lets focus on the illegals we will attack them who far less likely to get benfits .. but fail to address the others and their rampant abuses
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07-10-2016, 01:50 PM
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And if he was a heroin addicted American High and fell from the tree or got narcaned 3 times in a day the tax payer would have still paid the bill cuz hes or shes on Mass health .. there is still more way more Legal lossers scamming but lets focus on the illegals we will attack them who far less likely to get benfits .. but fail to address the others and their rampant abuses
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How about the fact they shouldn't even be here.
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07-10-2016, 03:02 PM
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lets focus on the illegals
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07-11-2016, 06:53 AM
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And if he was a heroin addicted American High and fell from the tree or got narcaned 3 times in a day the tax payer would have still paid the bill cuz hes or shes on Mass health .. there is still more way more Legal lossers scamming but lets focus on the illegals we will attack them who far less likely to get benfits .. but fail to address the others and their rampant abuses
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When U R wrong such as your statement, "illegals do not get benefits," U like to switch to other subjects such as addicts....not talking about addicts....please stay on subject matter or just do not say more when U R wrong.....
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"When its not about money,it's all about money."...
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07-08-2016, 04:13 PM
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From 2004 to 2014 according to the FBI 43% of police killed in the line of duty were killed by 12% of the population.
Here are some other fun facts.
http://www.dailywire.com/news/7264/5...-aaron-bandler
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07-08-2016, 05:20 PM
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The girlfriend was NOT the driver, the video was reversed
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