Kansas abortion vote set for Aug. 2

[wdmso]

It’s funny I have said this should happen but of course the Republicans can’t help themselves they are so dishonest the vote isn’t going to happen during the general election nope

Republicans in the state legislature placed the abortion measure on the ballot as a special election alongside the previously scheduled primary, where traditionally only party-affiliated voters are allowed to vote. Many of the state’s unaffiliated voters — about 30 percent of the electorate — may not be aware they can vote this time, , a voter advocacy group, who called the move “blatantly anti-democratic.”

University of Kansas law professor Stephen McAllister, a former clerk for Supreme Court Justice Clarence Thomas who served as the Trump-appointed U.S. attorney for Kansas, said that they are being disingenuous, and the real goal of the amendment is to pave the way for the Republican-led legislature to pass an outright abortion ban in its next session in January.

Just another example of the lack honesty of Republicans and commitment to free and fair elections.

Who are cowards to not hold the vote during a General election ..

[Jim in CT]

you never heard of a referendum?

it’s undemocratic to let the people
vote for themselves? that’s the textbook definition of democratic.


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[RIROCKHOUND]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

you never heard of a referendum?

it’s undemocratic to let the people
vote for themselves? that’s the textbook definition of democratic.


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Then put it on the general ballot in November when turnout is likely more robust….
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[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by RIROCKHOUND

Then put it on the general ballot in November when turnout is likely more robust….
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are they keeping it a secret? is that what you think? wdmso found out about it.


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[wdmso]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

you never heard of a referendum?

it’s undemocratic to let the people
vote for themselves? that’s the textbook definition of democratic.


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Objectively isn’t your strong suit is it.

Any normal objective person sees this for what it is . and rock hound laid it out in the simplest of terms

But you seemed to have taken the GOP side ..

In a nut shell the GOP is doing what subway did .

Claiming to sell a 100% tuna sub (a Democratic vote) but minus the Tuna ( twisting and rushing a vote on a primary day )

While still saying their tuna sub is 100% tuna

Republicans are afraid of the ballot box that’s why they attack any attempts to make voting easy and accessible for everyone.

But gerrymandering the electoral college and voting restrictions are the way they can stay in power
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[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by wdmso

Objectively isn’t your strong suit is it.

Any normal objective person sees this for what it is . and rock hound laid it out in the simplest of terms

But you seemed to have taken the GOP side ..

In a nut shell the GOP is doing what subway did .

Claiming to sell a 100% tuna sub (a Democratic vote) but minus the Tuna ( twisting and rushing a vote on a primary day )

While still saying their tuna sub is 100% tuna

Republicans are afraid of the ballot box that’s why they attack any attempts to make voting easy and accessible for everyone.

But gerrymandering the electoral college and voting restrictions are the way they can stay in power
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gerrymandering is bad? none of you cared when NY democrats did it and got caught.
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[wdmso]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

gerrymandering is bad? none of you cared when NY democrats did it and got caught.
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yes they got caught and it didn't work but dont be honest Gerrymandering by Republicans is a policy to avoid American Voters and make GOP safe districts to avoid having to govern to get re elected

Again you are short on a historical perspective ... and everything the same

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by wdmso

Objectively isn’t your strong suit is it.

Any normal objective person sees this for what it is . and rock hound laid it out in the simplest of terms

But you seemed to have taken the GOP side ..

In a nut shell the GOP is doing what subway did .

Claiming to sell a 100% tuna sub (a Democratic vote) but minus the Tuna ( twisting and rushing a vote on a primary day )

While still saying their tuna sub is 100% tuna

Republicans are afraid of the ballot box that’s why they attack any attempts to make voting easy and accessible for everyone.

But gerrymandering the electoral college and voting restrictions are the way they can stay in power
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objectively, if you consider abortion to be the murder of babies, you’d want that vote as soon as possible, so as to hopefully end the slaughter sooner rather than later

Sorry if that’s going too fast for you.
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[wdmso]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

objectively, if you consider abortion to be the murder of babies, you’d want that vote as soon as possible, so as to hopefully end the slaughter sooner rather than later

Sorry if that’s going too fast for you.
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Abortion has been in world history since the beginning of time ...

All you wish to do is impose your beliefs on others as some righteous Zealot its the new GOP No different than the Sunnis in Iraq a religious and political minority. Whos only way to stay in power is to cheat and intimidate and lie and create a system where they are insulated by the vote of the Majority ... And who of course claim those in the Majority are tyrannical and are trying to oppress them and their religion .. By suggesting the liberal idea of treating All Americans equally Some how infringes on them and their life its all

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by wdmso

Abortion has been in world history since the beginning of time ...

All you wish to do is impose your beliefs on others as some righteous Zealot its the new GOP No different than the Sunnis in Iraq a religious and political minority. Whos only way to stay in power is to cheat and intimidate and lie and create a system where they are insulated by the vote of the Majority ... And who of course claim those in the Majority are tyrannical and are trying to oppress them and their religion .. By suggesting the liberal idea of treating All Americans equally Some how infringes on them and their life its all

you’re not hoping you’re beliefs become policy? i’m then only home who does that? sure.

it’s not totalitarian to be opposed to murder.

“just like
the sunnis.”

yup. just like them. how come everyone wants to move to red states?
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[RIROCKHOUND]

No, it’s not a secret, but they are banking on lower turnout, dominated by older, more conservative voters. As you like to say, tell me that’s wrong and why they can’t put it on the general ballot in November.
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[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by RIROCKHOUND

No, it’s not a secret, but they are banking on lower turnout, dominated by older, more conservative voters. As you like to say, tell me that’s wrong and why they can’t put it on the general ballot in November.
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they also have early voting underway already. who does that favor? if you think abortion is infanticide, there’s urgency to having the vote asap. i’d want it today. isnt there some validity to that?

can i ask you a sincere question? i saw Faucci on tv, he was being grilled about the effect of covid vaccines on women’s menstrual cycles, Faucci admitted there was concern, and said “we need to study it more.”

isn’t that the kind of thing you study, before essentially forcing everyone to get 3 doses of the drug?


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[Pete F.]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

they also have early voting underway already. who does that favor? if you think abortion is infanticide, there’s urgency to having the vote asap. i’d want it today. isnt there some validity to that?

can i ask you a sincere question? i saw Faucci on tv, he was being grilled about the effect of covid vaccines on women’s menstrual cycles, Faucci admitted there was concern, and said “we need to study it more.”

isn’t that the kind of thing you study, before essentially forcing everyone to get 3 doses of the drug?


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444 deaths from Covid today in the USA.
We are just seeing the effects of long Covid.
Just how prolife are you?
Only fetuses count?
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[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by Pete F.

444 deaths from Covid today in the USA.
We are just seeing the effects of long Covid.
Just how prolife are you?
Only fetuses count?
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i asked about the effect on menstruation. i didn’t see you offer a syllable on that topic.
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[Pete F.]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

i asked about the effect on menstruation. i didn’t see you offer a syllable on that topic.
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Gotta keep the broodmares producing
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[Pete F.]

https://youtu.be/faTNMTVsgAA
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[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by Pete F.

https://youtu.be/faTNMTVsgAA
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so you can’t make
me wrong, but you can’t bring yourself to say it.

jerk.
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[Pete F.]

“Women can’t have rights because they are ugly” is not the winning argument MAGAts like Jim and Matt Gaetz think it is.
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[Pete F.]

A vote for Republican in November is a vote to eliminate abortion, to restrict contraception, to prevent interstate travel for reproductive care, and to eliminate Medicare, Medicaid and Social Security.

"Extreme" doesn't even begin to cover it.
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[Pete F.]

That Headline was in a paper

Whatever makes you think red states are immune

“In February 2022, 14 of the top 50 metros had a rent share higher than 30% relative to the median household income,” Realtor.com reported. “The least affordable rental market was Miami, Fla., followed by western and Sun Belt metros like Los Angeles, Calif., Riverside, Calif., Tampa, Fla., and San Diego, Calif. In addition, affordability has worsened in each one of the 14 markets as the current rent share of income is higher than this time last year and also higher than the average for 2021 as a whole.”
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[wdmso]

Here is a story that of course completely makes Jim’s claim of people moving to red states are solely political and Jim please don’t say you never suggested that “ yup. just like them. how come everyone wants to move to red states?”

When the truth is How’s the internet services seems to be the number 1 concern of people looking to move into what’s considered rural community

Americans are moving to rural areas in ever-increasing numbers, reflecting their increased desire to seek out more space, embrace entrepreneurial opportunities, and take advantage of a lower cost of living. Politics was last on the list

DECIDING FACTORS
However, one factor, internet service, would be the deciding factor for 67% of those who responded to the Paulsen and Audience Audit survey.

Ultimately, many Americans would consider making a move if there had a reliable internet connection. This is one of the biggest issues that some folks have with the rural migration. If there is no service, then many people will not be able to keep their jobs and work from home


Among the top reasons that survey respondents said that they moved to a rural area include:

More land or space around home
Fewer people
More home for less money
Safe environment with clean air and water
Lower cost of living
No traffic
Different culture
Living in a place with different political affiliation



https://www.aem.org/news/the-rural-m...ere-its-headed
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[wdmso]

Found this interesting bit of knowledge

Federal Funding Per Resident: $2,187 In Fla

Federal Funding Per Resident: -$4,000 In Conn. yep that’s a minus

Massachusetts
Federal Funding Per Resident: -$2,343.

Georgia
Federal Funding Per Resident: $2,253


Kentucky
Federal Funding Per Resident: $9,145 Home of Rand Paul who works to combat government waste. That’s funny let’s start by cutting off his state. and Turtle Boy

Yep Jim blue states subsidize red states and their low cost of living taxes and fees. Again facts are not your friend
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[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by wdmso

Found this interesting bit of knowledge

Federal Funding Per Resident: $2,187 In Fla

Federal Funding Per Resident: -$4,000 In Conn. yep that’s a minus

Massachusetts
Federal Funding Per Resident: -$2,343.

Georgia
Federal Funding Per Resident: $2,253


Kentucky
Federal Funding Per Resident: $9,145 Home of Rand Paul who works to combat government waste. That’s funny let’s start by cutting off his state. and Turtle Boy

Yep Jim blue states subsidize red states and their low cost of living taxes and fees. Again facts are not your friend
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there’s also historically been a red state subsidy of blue states. blue states have higher state/local taxes. which is a deduction on federal income taxes. meaning, wayne, let’s say you’re in CT and i am in FL and we have identical
financials except for state/local taxes. you pay less federal income tax than i do, only because you live in a blue state.

that subsidy ( red states subsidizing blue states) existed forever. Trump reduced it with the SALT cap. you need to consider that too. but you guys always leave it out.

and leave KY out, people aren’t flocking there.
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[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by wdmso

Found this interesting bit of knowledge

Federal Funding Per Resident: $2,187 In Fla

Federal Funding Per Resident: -$4,000 In Conn. yep that’s a minus

Massachusetts
Federal Funding Per Resident: -$2,343.

Georgia
Federal Funding Per Resident: $2,253


Kentucky
Federal Funding Per Resident: $9,145 Home of Rand Paul who works to combat government waste. That’s funny let’s start by cutting off his state. and Turtle Boy

Yep Jim blue states subsidize red states and their low cost of living taxes and fees. Again facts are not your friend
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so the federal funding is 1,800 lower in CT then it is in FL. i pay $10,000 in state income tax in CT that i wouldn’t pay in FL. plus car taxes, gas tax, uconn is way more expensive than public schools in FL. the federal funding gap doesn’t explain much of the difference, does it?
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[The Dad Fisherman]

Originally Posted by wdmso

No Jim your lying about the reason. And you keep saying it over and over and over . Suggesting they are fleeing blue states to red states based on politics
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No that's not what he's saying, he's saying that people are moving to red states based on lower cost of living, because their tax burden is lower, which is seen as a trait of Red States, and he can have more money in his bank account for other things to improve his quality of life.

He's not saying that people are moving to get away from liberal politics

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by The Dad Fisherman

No that's not what he's saying, he's saying that people are moving to red states based on lower cost of living, because their tax burden is lower, which is seen as a trait of Red States, and he can have more money in his bank account for other things to improve his quality of life.

He's not saying that people are moving to get away from liberal politics

thank you. maybe they’ll see it now, probably not.
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[The Dad Fisherman]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

thank you. maybe they’ll see it now, probably not.
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As you predicted….


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[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by The Dad Fisherman

No that's not what he's saying, he's saying that people are moving to red states based on lower cost of living, because their tax burden is lower, which is seen as a trait of Red States, and he can have more money in his bank account for other things to improve his quality of life.

He's not saying that people are moving to get away from liberal politics

i’d say low cost is absolutely a trait of red states, not just perceived as such.
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[wdmso]

Originally Posted by The Dad Fisherman

No that's not what he's saying, he's saying that people are moving to red states based on lower cost of living, because their tax burden is lower, which is seen as a trait of Red States, and he can have more money in his bank account for other things to improve his quality of life.

He's not saying that people are moving to get away from liberal politics

Yes he has and still is !

Seems you haven’t been paying attention..

everyone but Jim has said what you’ve said .

Good luck finding any place where Jim has written anything remotely suggesting people move for a multitude of reason


He’s the only one who has insisted and connected politics to people moving to red states and does it repeatedly


But I must be imagining it
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[Jim in CT]

wdmso, uconn costs $35k a year for in state.

Florida State costs $23k a year for in state

the savings just keep adding up and up, meaning your federal funding gap accounts for very little of the cost differential.

if you had two kids you put through those schools for 4 years each, you’re saving $96k in FL. plus paying zero state income tax!

There’s just no comparison. None.
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