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[PaulS]

Nashville historically votes liberal. Tenn. conserv. If taxes are your main point, Tenn. wins. Educ. poverty rate, opportunity, etc. Conn wins.

Not a lot of insurance jobs in Tenn.(although I did have a insur. client in Brentwood in a prior job).

States and territories
Rank State Poverty Rate(by Household Income) People in Poverty
by Household Income
(in thousands) 2014 Poverty Rates
(includes unrelated children) Supplemental Poverty Measure (2010-2014 average)
(Geographically Adjusted)
- United States 14.8% 45,950 16.0%[1][2]

4 Connecticut
10.8% 376 10.6% 12.5%

41 Tennessee
18.2% 1,165 16.7% 15.5%

tough to read - sorry


Following from US news and world reports on an overall rating on crime, educ. opportunity, etc.

https://www.usnews.com/news/best-states/rankings

US News and World reports - 2014
Conn - #12
Tenn #39


Fattest states:
Conn: 21.4%
Tenn: 31.6%
fattest state Miss. 33.8%

Life expectancy at birth - Conn near top, Tenn near bottom
bachelors degree or higher - Conn near top, Tenn near bottom

The reddest states have long been the poorest. If the gov. didn't transfer lots of $ to those red states life there would be even worse.


another article';

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/07/31/op...y-is-blue.html

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by PaulS

Nashville historically votes liberal. Tenn. conserv. If taxes are your main point, Tenn. wins. Educ. poverty rate, opportunity, etc. Conn wins.

Not a lot of insurance jobs in Tenn.(although I did have a insur. client in Brentwood in a prior job).

States and territories
Rank State Poverty Rate(by Household Income) People in Poverty
by Household Income
(in thousands) 2014 Poverty Rates
(includes unrelated children) Supplemental Poverty Measure (2010-2014 average)
(Geographically Adjusted)
- United States 14.8% 45,950 16.0%[1][2]

4 Connecticut
10.8% 376 10.6% 12.5%

41 Tennessee
18.2% 1,165 16.7% 15.5%

tough to read - sorry


Following from US news and world reports on an overall rating on crime, educ. opportunity, etc.

https://www.usnews.com/news/best-states/rankings

US News and World reports - 2014
Conn - #12
Tenn #39


Fattest states:
Conn: 21.4%
Tenn: 31.6%
fattest state Miss. 33.8%

Life expectancy at birth - Conn near top, Tenn near bottom
bachelors degree or higher - Conn near top, Tenn near bottom

The reddest states have long been the poorest. If the gov. didn't transfer lots of $ to those red states life there would be even worse.


another article';

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/07/31/op...y-is-blue.html

"Educ. poverty rate, opportunity, etc. Conn wins. "

Nope. The marketplace has spoken , and they say you are wrong.

If you look at states as a whole, sure CT wins, we have Fairfield County and they don't. We win because we have a section of our state that's an easy commute to Manhattan.

There are certain cities in the Carolinas and TN that stink (also there are cities in CT that stink). However, there are cities in the Carolinas and TN that compare very well with nice CT suburbs in terms of quality of live, and far lower taxes. That is where many people are moving.

If those places are as crappy as you said, they would not all be on Amazon's list of finalists. Note that CT was bounced in the first round, but TN and NC are among the finalists.

CT liberal elites like to say the south is nothing but meth heads and trailer parks. Not remotely true. Look at Fort Mill SC. Rock bottom prices, and public schools as good as Avon CT. Those are the places we should be trying to emulate, but liberals won't concede they're doing anything better.

[PaulS]

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If those places are as crappy as you said, they would not all be on Amazon's list of finalists. Note that CT was bounced in the first round, but TN and NC are among the finalists.

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And all of the 20 cities (except I think Indiapolis) are liberal. So which of the following 20 cities do you think are conservative? I've entered my guesses.

Austin, Tex. – liberal
Boston– liberal
Chicago– liberal
Columbus, Ohio – Voted 80% for Obama
Dallas – 2nd most liberal city in Texas after Austin
Denver– liberal
Indianapolis - conservative
Los Angeles– liberal
Miami – leans liberal
Montgomery County, Md. – liberal
Nashville– liberal
Newark– liberal
New York– liberal
Northern Virginia– liberal
Philadelphia– liberal
Pittsburgh– liberal
Raleigh, N.C. – liberal
Toronto– liberal
Washington– liberal

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by PaulS

And all of the 20 cities (except I think Indiapolis) are liberal. So which of the following 20 cities do you think are conservative? I've entered my guesses.

Austin, Tex. – liberal
Boston– liberal
Chicago– liberal
Columbus, Ohio – Voted 80% for Obama
Dallas – 2nd most liberal city in Texas after Austin
Denver– liberal
Indianapolis - conservative
Los Angeles– liberal
Miami – leans liberal
Montgomery County, Md. – liberal
Nashville– liberal
Newark– liberal
New York– liberal
Northern Virginia– liberal
Philadelphia– liberal
Pittsburgh– liberal
Raleigh, N.C. – liberal
Toronto– liberal
Washington– liberal

How many cities that are mid-size or larger, aren't left of center?

People from CT are not moving to the Nashville suburbs because they like the liberal politics of the city of Nashville. Nor are people from CT moving to the Charlotte suburbs because they like the liberal politics of the city of Charlotte. They are moving to the Nashville /Charlotte suburbs because it's a much better bargain than the CT suburbs. They want to be near the cities of Nashville/Charlotte, because regardless of politics, many people like to be near a city for the food, music, sports, etc...

You are bending over backwards in a desperate attempt to convince yourself that there is zero connection between Connecticut's brand of liberalism, and the fact that people are moving to the Carolinas and TN.

If people in CT want to live near a smallish city that's liberal, they would stay right where they are, Hartford is plenty liberal.

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by PaulS

Not a lot of insurance jobs in Tenn.(although I did have a insur. client in Brentwood in a prior job).

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Tele-commuting. Allowing a lot of people to flee CT.

There are tons of math-related jobs in Charlotte, sometimes referred to as the banking capital of the country.

[PaulS]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

Tele-commuting. Allowing a lot of people to flee CT.

There are tons of math-related jobs in Charlotte, sometimes referred to as the banking capital of the country.

And Charlotte is liberal
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[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by PaulS

And Charlotte is liberal
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You sure? The taxes are dirt cheap and they don’t give unions a blank check.
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Originally Posted by PaulS

And Charlotte is liberal
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So is Asheville, in that county Clinton beat Trump by 14 points...as did most cities in NC or by more...I think in CLT she was up by 30.

I guess the next question would be if Trump's base is benefiting from the current economic environment or if it's mostly going to the Dems.

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by spence

So is Asheville, in that county Clinton beat Trump by 14 points...as did most cities in NC or by more...I think in CLT she was up by 30.

I guess the next question would be if Trump's base is benefiting from the current economic environment or if it's mostly going to the Dems.

I keep hearing its only trumps base that's benefiting from his policies. You just make stuff up as you go along now? You fault the gop because 51 is less than 60, now you are concerned that only liberals are benefitting from trumps policies?
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Originally Posted by Jim in CT

I keep hearing its only trumps base that's benefiting from his policies. You just make stuff up as you go along now? You fault the gop because 51 is less than 60, now you are concerned that only liberals are benefitting from trumps policies?
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The base that elected trump doesn't seem to be benefiting from his current policy.
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[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by spence

The base that elected trump doesn't seem to be benefiting from his current policy.
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Who would that be exactly? Because people who work and have IRAs and pay taxes, are doing insanely well. Stock market up, unemployment down, tax rates down, companies giving bonuses and raises. Who do you suppose his base is? Who isn’t benefitting, exactly? I’m all ears.
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[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by PaulS

And Charlotte is liberal
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Democrat in the the south, doesn’t always mean liberal. And you say that Nashville and Charlotte are booming, but not the suburbs? Hate to disagree with you. Most people are moving to the suburbs, and many of the nicest suburbs are absolutely white hot.
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[PaulS]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

Democrat in the the south, doesn’t always mean liberal. And you say that Nashville and Charlotte are booming, but not the suburbs? Hate to disagree with you. Most people are moving to the suburbs, and many of the nicest suburbs are absolutely white hot.
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I agree liberal-conservative certainly doesn't mean the same down south as it as up north. But again when someone from Connecticut decides to move to Tennessee they look at Nashville and then the surrounding area. They don't look for a area that is not near Nashville.
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[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by PaulS

I agree liberal-conservative certainly doesn't mean the same down south as it as up north. But again when someone from Connecticut decides to move to Tennessee they look at Nashville and then the surrounding area. They don't look for a area that is not near Nashville.
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For the same reason that most people in CT don’t live in the boonies. Many people like to be near a city for restaurants, music, sports, healthcare, etc. I don’t think it’s the politics of Nashville and Charlotte that attracts people. It’s the fact that it’s a city. Most people
Like suburbs not remote rural areas
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