Striper Talk Striped Bass Fishing, Surfcasting, Boating

     

Left Nav S-B Home Register FAQ Members List S-B on Facebook Arcade WEAX Tides Buoys Calendar Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read Right Nav

Left Container Right Container
 

Go Back   Striper Talk Striped Bass Fishing, Surfcasting, Boating » Build Stuff: Custom Plug & Lure Building, Rod Building » Plug Building - Got Wood?

Plug Building - Got Wood? Got Plug?

Reply
 
Thread Tools Rate Thread Display Modes
Old 10-21-2011, 04:37 PM   #1
Slipknot
Super Moderator
iTrader: (0)
 
Slipknot's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2000
Location: Middleboro MA
Posts: 16,107
Need help with fresh water plugs

I was hoping to get some suggestions from anyone who cares to help me out. I got a request from someone who fishes for rainbow trout way up in Canada on a very large long lake, I guess they troll slow like we do for stripers 1-2 mph but must use downriggers because they are 150' down in the water. He said he uses 4" mostly but also 6" and the best color is pink pearl( white with pink stripe down the middle).

I guess I could do some with some micro glitter in the epoxy also.

I am not sure what to make for bodies? should I use lexan for lips or metal? how big are the eyes?
So does anyone have any picture, ideas?

thanks
Slipknot is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-21-2011, 04:43 PM   #2
Grapenuts
Registered User
iTrader: (0)
 
Grapenuts's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: Between the thighs
Posts: 559
Rainbows eat little fish...google rainbows and see what comes up for their happy meal.
Grapenuts is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-21-2011, 05:04 PM   #3
Slipknot
Super Moderator
iTrader: (0)
 
Slipknot's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2000
Location: Middleboro MA
Posts: 16,107
will do Steve
he says he catches them about 20 pounds
Slipknot is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-21-2011, 05:36 PM   #4
Grapenuts
Registered User
iTrader: (0)
 
Grapenuts's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: Between the thighs
Posts: 559
something tells me they like rocky bottoms..I'd do metal lips....wonder how old a 20 lb'er is.
Grapenuts is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-21-2011, 05:48 PM   #5
iamskippy
Registered User
iTrader: (1)
 
iamskippy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: A village some where
Posts: 3,436
I have fished for this species alot including with down riggers, slip the best suggestion i can give is look and modeling repala's, they are made out of bulsa wood and are very effective, i would also suggest lexan lips.
Posted from my iPhone/Mobile device
iamskippy is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-22-2011, 05:48 AM   #6
nightfighter
Seldom Seen
iTrader: (0)
 
nightfighter's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2001
Posts: 8,182
PM Muskyslayer.... he's a fresh water guy and would have the right input from a luremaker's point of view.

“Americans have the right and advantage of being armed, unlike the people of other countries, whose leaders are afraid to trust them with arms.” – James Madison.
nightfighter is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 10-22-2011, 06:05 AM   #7
Raven
........
iTrader: (0)
 
Raven's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2002
Posts: 22,693
Blog Entries: 1
I second Skips view on using the rapala shaped body

a pink body at 20' depths would look silver to them
and have a much higher profile

you can troll them with great success UNTIL
the great winds blow all the leaves into the water

then the plugs get "leaf fowled" sliding down the line
when trolled....so you have to wait til they sink

then resume
Raven is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-24-2011, 10:45 AM   #8
Rockfish9
Registered User
iTrader: (0)
 
Rockfish9's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Reading Mass/Newburyport/merrimack river
Posts: 3,000
a 3" pikie works well on Brown trout and salmon... I just dont think I've come accross a rainbow( trout) yet big enough to eat one yet... Rainbow flash and goldfish( as close as I could get to CCB's original color) have worked the best on 'em..I've got the specs at the house if you like.. make them slim, not like we make striper pikies..

A good run is better than a bad stand!
Rockfish9 is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 10-24-2011, 10:59 AM   #9
fishsmith
DDG-51
iTrader: (0)
 
fishsmith's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2002
Posts: 3,467
In our neck of the woods, I troll stocked ponds in my canoe using a 3" rapala with a rainbow pattern. that's little to whittle, but they are effective.
fishsmith is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-24-2011, 04:47 PM   #10
Muskyslayer96
Registered User
iTrader: (0)
 
Muskyslayer96's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2010
Posts: 342
Slipknot,

I agree with the previous posts...rapala sized plugs are very effective as are spoons and J-plugs fished deep. I agree with the lexan lips as well, very durable.



MS

Muskyslayer96 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-24-2011, 05:20 PM   #11
Raven
........
iTrader: (0)
 
Raven's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2002
Posts: 22,693
Blog Entries: 1
i did catch a nice brown trout one afternoon on an orange crawdad imtation wart plug
Raven is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-25-2011, 09:53 AM   #12
stripercrazy
Hernia Pikie Maker
 
Join Date: Jun 2001
Location: e. prov r.i.
Posts: 1,164
smelt is what there eating in some of the lakes in maine

its no ones fault
stripercrazy is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-27-2011, 08:19 AM   #13
Slipknot
Super Moderator
iTrader: (0)
 
Slipknot's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2000
Location: Middleboro MA
Posts: 16,107
thank guys

rainbows can get up to 53 pounds in 7 years or so

this guy gets them about 20 pounds and also gets some salmon too.
Slipknot is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-01-2012, 05:49 PM   #14
Slipknot
Super Moderator
iTrader: (0)
 
Slipknot's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2000
Location: Middleboro MA
Posts: 16,107
I came up with a rapala type design so far.
I made it with AYC and made a plexiglas lip as I have no lexan.
I did not put weight in it and it swims pretty good. I might try a touch of lead to see the difference.

Maybe I will try more of these and try red cedar too.
I think i will make a metal lip for them and see how that goes.
Attached Thumbnails
Click image for larger version

Name:	swimmer.jpg
Views:	144
Size:	152.9 KB
ID:	50302  
Slipknot is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-01-2012, 08:02 PM   #15
new jack
Registered User
 
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: carver,
Posts: 465
Blog Entries: 1
Looks good Bruce!!
Posted from my iPhone/Mobile device
new jack is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-02-2012, 05:34 AM   #16
Muskyslayer96
Registered User
iTrader: (0)
 
Muskyslayer96's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2010
Posts: 342
Slipknot,

Looks awesome! should dig deep and with the thru wire, should be able to tune it up nicely. i have been using metal lips for my cranks in the past and like them a lot for their ability to be tunable.
Would love to see it finished up, How big is it?

MS

Muskyslayer96 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-02-2012, 06:58 AM   #17
Raven
........
iTrader: (0)
 
Raven's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2002
Posts: 22,693
Blog Entries: 1
put the Pats logo on it
and they'll try to kill it...

nice - plug there Bruce
Raven is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-02-2012, 07:15 AM   #18
Slipknot
Super Moderator
iTrader: (0)
 
Slipknot's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2000
Location: Middleboro MA
Posts: 16,107
Quote:
Originally Posted by Raven View Post
put the Pats logo on it
and they'll try to kill it...

nice - plug there Bruce
I know what you mean Raven
but these plugs are for a former Bruin player - "the Chief" number 9, so he will be getting their logo

been way too busy this week to do any more, but I will get back to them soon
Slipknot is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-02-2012, 09:15 AM   #19
Striperknight
Plug Paladin
iTrader: (0)
 
Striperknight's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Jackson, N.J.
Posts: 1,132
Looks nice.
Striperknight is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-03-2012, 02:41 PM   #20
vineyardblues
Registered User
iTrader: (0)
 
vineyardblues's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2002
Posts: 3,547
Slip never used wood , we always use these or other "wobblers" for lakers / trout/ salmon, down deep , they move "wicked"
toss a few in with your Home Made
Attached Thumbnails
Click image for larger version

Name:	$(KGrHqJ,!lgE8h9-Zn0fBPJ0f7DlM!~~60_3.jpg
Views:	153
Size:	60.9 KB
ID:	50337  
vineyardblues is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-03-2012, 03:32 PM   #21
PNG
Registered User
iTrader: (0)
 
PNG's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: Hard aground
Posts: 1,359
Cool stuff Bruce. Have you swam it yet?
What I've found in making that type of plug is a bigger lip is needed as compared to a similar sized plastic or balsa constructed lure. Ive wanted to try circuit board for the lip. There was a couple selling pre-cut lips but I lost the link and the drive to look. Let us know how it turns out.

Plugs Rule
PNG is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-03-2012, 07:11 PM   #22
Slipknot
Super Moderator
iTrader: (0)
 
Slipknot's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2000
Location: Middleboro MA
Posts: 16,107
Png it swam pissa w no weight
Posted from my iPhone/Mobile device
Slipknot is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-10-2012, 02:50 PM   #23
Slipknot
Super Moderator
iTrader: (0)
 
Slipknot's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2000
Location: Middleboro MA
Posts: 16,107
I guess these actually caught for him
I got a small envelope in the mail today and did not recognize return addy, thought it was a chain letter but inside was a photo of him holding a nice fat rainbow and he said it was on my hook
and said he finally got out fishing.
Glad they were a success.
Attached Thumbnails
Click image for larger version

Name:	handcarves.jpg
Views:	104
Size:	111.4 KB
ID:	52993  
Slipknot is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-10-2012, 05:34 PM   #24
Zeal
Always a Rookie
iTrader: (0)
 
Zeal's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: South Shore Long Island, NY
Posts: 461
I trout fish but not in such deep waters, the only 2 cents I feel I can give is coloration.

For brown trout I literally only use 1 lure and only need that 1 lure, the Rapala Baby Brown Trout. Brown trout are territorial where I'm at and it has given me great success.

Rainbows don't mind nailing the same thing. For color, I'd try one lure being a baby brown trout and the other being a baby rainbow. Maybe they are the same way in your neck of the woods.

Whoops, I forgot that the only other lure I'll use is a Yozuri little Crystal Minnow which is alright but the Baby Trout are by far the main killers

"Your first word was "Fishing", not "Mom", not "Dad", "FISHING." - Mom

Black, White, Chartreuse/Parrot = the Holy Trinity
Zeal is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-10-2012, 09:21 PM   #25
Hookedagain
Registered User
iTrader: (0)
 
Hookedagain's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2009
Location: Somerset Ma
Posts: 1,182
Bruce, does the top one with the plastic lip swim different than the ones with the metal lip?
Hookedagain is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-11-2012, 11:57 AM   #26
Saltheart
Registered User
iTrader: (1)
 
Saltheart's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2000
Location: Cumberland,RI
Posts: 8,550
How long are they?

Sometimes you only need 2.5 inches for trout. Orange flourescent works good.

The lazy Ikes work good too. The brownish color on the lower right is the best IMO.
Attached Thumbnails
Click image for larger version

Name:	$T2eC16JHJHoE9n3Kd6FdBQS77KkjH!~~60_3.jpg
Views:	67
Size:	93.5 KB
ID:	53010  

Saltheart
Custom Crafted Rods by Saltheart
Saltheart is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-11-2012, 01:12 PM   #27
Slipknot
Super Moderator
iTrader: (0)
 
Slipknot's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2000
Location: Middleboro MA
Posts: 16,107
Quote:
Originally Posted by Hookedagain View Post
Bruce, does the top one with the plastic lip swim different than the ones with the metal lip?

yes, it had a tighter wiggle
but they were tested before epoxy and paint

Quote:
Originally Posted by Saltheart View Post
How long are they?

Sometimes you only need 2.5 inches for trout. .
I think these were around 5"
he said he uses 4" and 6" minnow type baits


The plugs work like I said, he got a 12 pounder on it
Slipknot is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks

Thread Tools
Display Modes Rate This Thread
Rate This Thread:

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 06:37 PM.


Powered by vBulletin. Copyright ©2000 - 2008, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Please use all necessary and proper safety precautions. STAY SAFE Striper Talk Forums
Copyright 1998-20012 Striped-Bass.com