Another political question to Mass members - can Barney Frank be defeated?

[RIJIMMY]

yeah, pretty funny.
At the debate, Frank came across as such an arrogant bafoon. He literally blamed the republicans for not revamping Fannie and Freddie. I didnt realize he is over 70yrs old. Time to go, we need some young blood in there. The guy is usless. I missed the Bielat rally in Foxboro, we drove by when it was wrapping up. Still cant believe all the signs for him, even saw a bunch near the canal!

[spence]

Originally Posted by RIJIMMY

The guy is usless.

I think you're shorting his stock.

Frank is seen as someone who fights for the people and is one of the few in Congress who actually understands how the finance industry works. Like his policy or not, many believe he has value.

I know some pretty damn smart business people in his district who are staunch supporters.

He's far from perfect, but I wouldn't say he's usless.

-spence

[fishbones]

Originally Posted by spence

I think you're shorting his stock.

Frank is seen as someone who fights for the people and is one of the few in Congress who actually understands how the finance industry works. Like his policy or not, many believe he has value.

I know some pretty damn smart business people in his district who are staunch supporters.
He's far from perfect, but I wouldn't say he's usless.

-spence

Hitler had some staunch supporters who were considered pretty damn smart, too.

And before you get your panties in a bunch, I'm not comparing Frank to Hitler. I'm saying that just because someone has support doesn't mean they have the best interest of the public in mind.

[RIJIMMY]

Originally Posted by spence

Frank is seen as someone who fights for the people and is one of the few in Congress who actually understands how the finance industry works. Like his policy or not, many believe he has value.

-spence

Really? Im mean REALLY???
He gets how the finacial system works? Are you freakin kidding me? This guy had NO clue a crisis was coming, had no clue what to do to prevent it and he WAS CHAIRMAN OF THE FREAKING COMMITEE!!!!
All he knows how to do is react! And what was the reaction? The Frank-Dodd bill. Yup the two bafoons that were at the helm BEFORE the crisis have enacted the legislation to prevent a future one! And yes, there are some good things in the bill, but surpirise, surpirse, the bill creates another large govt oversight organization that has undefined powers, ie - more beauracracy.
Spence, Frank has one thing going for him, he is a Democrat in MA, thats all. Otherwise he would be history.

[FishermanTim]

He knows how the finance industry works, and he knows how to work it in HIS favor.
His "pretty smart business" supporters are only supporting him as long as what he does is good for them.
In other words, THEY must be receiving direct benefits from whatever Barney is screwing up!

What I find truly amazing is that when confronted by a staunch opponent, and with direct questions requiring a simple direct answer, he can't put 2 words together that don't shift blame to someone else.

Then when his boyfriend makes himself the center of attention by heckling Barney's opponent, it smells like a "pass the blame" scenario all over again.

We need new blood in office.
We need term limits.
We need to revoke their hefty pensions. And no more "double dipping" by working a private job while you are in office working for US!! If you can't devote 100% of your effort to the office, then what the heck are you good for?
We need to hold them accountable for ANYTHING they do while in office. No more playing the spineless blame game of "It was the OTHER guys fault!"

14 days and counting!

[justplugit]

Originally Posted by FishermanTim

We need new blood in office.
We need term limits.
We need to revoke their hefty pensions. And no more "double dipping" by working a private job while you are in office working for US!! If you can't devote 100% of your effort to the office, then what the heck are you good for?
We need to hold them accountable for ANYTHING they do while in office. No more playing the spineless blame game of "It was the OTHER guys fault!"

14 days and counting!

Agree 110% and once they are in office they need to have their
feet held to the fire. I believe the voters have reached the point
where if things don't get straightened out, WHOEVER is not part of the solution
is part of the problem and will be voted out.
Days of voter, "Oh Well " are over.

[FishermanTim]

We should also hold the voters accountable too, since many will vote "the party line" without any thought about what the candidate will do or has done. It was never more evident than with the governor's and presidential election. People voted along party lines without ever reading one article or listening to one debate regarding their political "saviors". What did they get? Nothing but losers & lies.
I wish we could hold politicians accountable for all of their campaign lies, since they all seem to promise you whatever you want to get your vote, and end up robbing you blind, kicking you in the jimmies and telling you that it's all good!

Here's a novel approach: Don't waste MY time telling me stories and lies to get my vote, just DO YOUR DAMN JOB CORRECTLY!
Don't promise me the moon and stars and tell me how great things will be with useless "hope & change" rhetoric, just do what's best for the people OR the people may be dragging your a$$ out onto the street and beating it to a pulp if you screw around!

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Originally Posted by FishermanTim

We should also hold the voters accountable too, since many will vote "the party line" without any thought about what the candidate will do or has done. It was never more evident than with the governor's and presidential election. People voted along party lines without ever reading one article or listening to one debate regarding their political "saviors". What did they get? Nothing but losers & lies.
I wish we could hold politicians accountable for all of their campaign lies, since they all seem to promise you whatever you want to get your vote, and end up robbing you blind, kicking you in the jimmies and telling you that it's all good!

Here's a novel approach: Don't waste MY time telling me stories and lies to get my vote, just DO YOUR DAMN JOB CORRECTLY!
Don't promise me the moon and stars and tell me how great things will be with useless "hope & change" rhetoric, just do what's best for the people OR the people may be dragging your a$$ out onto the street and beating it to a pulp if you screw around!

Fisherman Tim has my vote for whatever position he would like to have.
Well said.
I don't even know what parties (reb, dem) mean or stand for. Drives me INSANE how people just vote for people based on party affiliation, aka my wife, becuse she is a democrat and she has to vote for the democrat no matter how ignorant they may be cause that's the way it works, and if she doesn't vote for her party, the Gestapo will pay her a visit. Especially when she has no clue as to what their "agenda" are. I'm a democrat, so I vote for the democrat is her philosphy. A circus clown could be running, say he is a democrat, and my wife would vote for him simply on that principal.

As I have gotten older, I actually do pay attention and listen to who's got what lies and promises, then I just vote for the one seems to be best at lying..........and is most likely to let me keep my guns.