breonna taylor tragedy

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by RIROCKHOUND

1. Prove that they actually announced themselves 1X let along repeatedly
2. See Pete's post below. If that is true, the body cam should prove they announced as police before knocking the door in. If they did, case closed.

I also agree once it started, the police reacted as they are trained. One of the questions to ask, should they have been there in that form and way at all. It seems like the evidence was pretty muddled for that style of raid/arrest/search.

From Pete's post:
Walker admits he fired first. But he says he fired only after he and Taylor repeatedly asked who was pounding at the door, got no answer, and after a battering ram busted open the door. If Walker reasonably believed that the men breaking into the apartment were not police, he had every right to defend himself and Taylor. At that point, the police also had the right to return fire. The latter would be true even if the courts later determined that the police had failed to properly identify themselves (which would make this a no-knock raid) and the no-knock portion of the warrant was later determined to be illegal (which it was). That’s how the law works.

a neighbor said he heard them. and the cops said they did.

it’s not case closed if they did. he still might not have heard them. it’s not always a good idea for them
to announce themselves, sometimes surprise is a good idea.

bry, occasionally horrible things will
happen. that’s what happens. it’s not always a crime. certainly not in the case of her death.

yes i’ll
believe the washington post,m

i have zero issue with re examining he process. but bryan, do you think that if a cop is shot, he returns fire but hits someone accidentally, should he go to prison? it’s a crime to miss? that’s what almost everyone on the left wants. it’s bonkers.
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[RIROCKHOUND]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

a neighbor said he heard them. and the cops said they did.

it’s not case closed if they did. he still might not have heard them. it’s not always a good idea for them
to announce themselves, sometimes surprise is a good idea.

bry, occasionally horrible things will
happen. that’s what happens. it’s not always a crime. certainly not in the case of her death.

yes i’ll
believe the washington post,m

i have zero issue with re examining he process. but bryan, do you think that if a cop is shot, he returns fire but hits someone accidentally, should he go to prison? it’s a crime to miss? that’s what almost everyone on the left wants. it’s bonkers.
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Not if the shooting was justified. No. Again read my posts and don’t try and assume a position Jim.
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[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by RIROCKHOUND

Not if the shooting was justified. No. Again read my posts and don’t try and assume a position Jim.
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i didn’t assume, that’s why i asked. id have bet $$ that you’d be the one
liberal here sane enough to say that.
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Originally Posted by Jim in CT

a neighbor said he heard them. and the cops said they did.

Wait, these cops???

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/louisvi...cident-report/

And it was like one neighbor out of 13 interviewed. And the one that did say he heard them say police didn't recall that until they were asked a third time I remember reading.

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by spence

Wait, these cops???

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/louisvi...cident-report/

And it was like one neighbor out of 13 interviewed. And the one that did say he heard them say police didn't recall that until they were asked a third time I remember reading.

yes these cops. versus people very likely involved with drugs. you’re taking the druggies word. shocker. good
luck with that.

the neighbor is also lying?

the guy in the apartment has a very self serving reason to claim he never heard them.
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Originally Posted by Jim in CT

i have zero issue with re examining he process. but bryan, do you think that if a cop is shot, he returns fire but hits someone accidentally, should he go to prison? it’s a crime to miss? that’s what almost everyone on the left wants. it’s bonkers.
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It depends on the situation, but I think most people want not automatic prison but rather to go to a public trial where the process isn't secret. We have no idea what information was presented to the grand jury on Breonna Taylor's behalf...per rockboy's point. I don't think there's a felony murder case here, but the whole thing was so botched it seems like other's need to be held to account other than the taxpayer having to front 12m. Remember they tried to sweep everything under the rug.

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by spence

It depends on the situation, but I think most people want not automatic prison but rather to go to a public trial where the process isn't secret. We have no idea what information was presented to the grand jury on Breonna Taylor's behalf...per rockboy's point. I don't think there's a felony murder case here, but the whole thing was so botched it seems like other's need to be held to account other than the taxpayer having to front 12m. Remember they tried to sweep everything under the rug.

a trial requires an
arrest, which requires a criminal act taking place.

this might be news to liberal snowflakes, but nowhere in the criminal code does it say that the requirements to charge someone with a crime can be set aside if liberal whiners feel sufficiently entitled to a trial. that’s not the standard.

what you and you stupid fascist ilk want, doesn’t matter, nor does it matter how much you feel
entitled to it.

very big of your that you’re willing to not just execute the cop in the spot, that you will allow a trail.

the grand jury said no thanks.

so did the black AG. and we saw how he was treated by the left, because they like blacks so much. at least, they like the ones who don’t stray off the plantation. he was called
an uncle tom and worse, and the people who called him that, never stop seeing racism
on my side, but don’t see it when it’s dripping out of their own mouths.
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Originally Posted by Jim in CT

a trial requires an
arrest, which requires a criminal act taking place.

this might be news to liberal snowflakes, but nowhere in the criminal code does it say that the requirements to charge someone with a crime can be set aside if liberal whiners feel sufficiently entitled to a trial. that’s not the standard.

what you and you stupid fascist ilk want, doesn’t matter, nor does it matter how much you feel
entitled to it.

very big of your that you’re willing to not just execute the cop in the spot, that you will allow a trail.

the grand jury said no thanks.

so did the black AG. and we saw how he was treated by the left, because they like blacks so much. at least, they like the ones who don’t stray off the plantation. he was called
an uncle tom and worse, and the people who called him that, never stop seeing racism
on my side, but don’t see it when it’s dripping out of their own mouths.
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The police had a right of self defense against Walker but not against Taylor. The AG got the law wrong in his press conference which makes it more likely the grand jury could have been misled.
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