Who has the guts-

[Karl F]

not Lincoln

"The test of our progress is not whether we add more to the abundance of those who have too much; it is whether we provide enough for those who have too little… I see one-third of a nation ill-housed, ill-clothed, ill-nourished."
FDR 1937

[justplugit]

Originally Posted by Karl F

not Lincoln

"The test of our progress is not whether we add more to the abundance of those who have too much; it is whether we provide enough for those who have too little… I see one-third of a nation ill-housed, ill-clothed, ill-nourished."
FDR 1937

I would agree with that Karl , imho we are not doing enough to help the real
needy and way too much to help those that are able bodied and are
milking the system.

It's like the guy who asks for $5 for food for his family, if I give it to him and that's the case I gave him too little,
if he's spending it on "other stuff", I gave him too much.

[justplugit]

Whoops, looks like i misqouted Lincoln as the author of Lincoln's Creed.
Karl brought to my attention it was written by Rev. William Boetkner and
was mixed in with a political phamphlet with other Lincoln qoutes around
1916. Therefore the confusiion.
Boetkner was a wise man,his 8 cannots attributed to Lincoln were right on.

[Jackbass]

Originally Posted by Karl F

not Lincoln

"The test of our progress is not whether we add more to the abundance of those who have too much; it is whether we provide enough for those who have too little… I see one-third of a nation ill-housed, ill-clothed, ill-nourished."
FDR 1937

This is not FDR's democratic party
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[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by Jackbass

This is not FDR's democratic party
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You damn right it's not. The left was making a big deal recently, about the idiotic notion that the GOP is so radically conservative, that even Reagan would have not be welcomed there today. That's demonstrably false, and here is the proof. In 2008 and 2012, the GOP's presidential nominees were far less conservative than Reagan.

In my parents' generation, it was unthinkable for a Catholic to not vote Democrat. Today, I don't see how anyone who claims to be Catholic can even consider voting for a Democrat at the national level. The Catholic catechism has not changed since then, but the platforms of the Democratic party sure have. In the 1960's, the Democratic party abandoned traditional family values for the radicalism that came about from the opposition to the Vietnam War and the sexual revolution.