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12-06-2009, 07:58 AM
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Is this the Place?
Am I too early?
Sorry, the Danish didn't make it.....  |
He that would make his own liberty secure, must guard even his enemy from oppression; for if he violates this duty, he establishes a precedent that will reach to himself.
Thomas Paine
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12-06-2009, 08:06 AM
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Oblivious // Grunt, Grunt Master
Join Date: Nov 2005
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Shhhhhhhhhh......Eddy will hear us.
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12-06-2009, 08:09 AM
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G'morning, George. Get your snow shoveled yet? |
He that would make his own liberty secure, must guard even his enemy from oppression; for if he violates this duty, he establishes a precedent that will reach to himself.
Thomas Paine
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12-06-2009, 08:14 AM
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Oblivious // Grunt, Grunt Master
Join Date: Nov 2005
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Here's what I've started.
A smaller version (to fit a lefty1 lip) of the low floating, slow wagging, unstable, skinny donny (white pictured) that have done so well for me.
A fatter, higher riding, tail weighted, full size version of the same plug (green cloud)......that I gave to early bird, and swam fantastic, but he under-appreciated so I took it back.
Some Musso/BM wad clones to try.
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12-06-2009, 08:17 AM
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Oblivious // Grunt, Grunt Master
Join Date: Nov 2005
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And these are some variations on a big 3 oz needle of my own I've been fishing the last several years and liking.
Also a picture of my secret plug building weapon
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12-06-2009, 08:21 AM
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You've been very busy. So far I have 3 protos spun.
One being that Norris needle, using my patented WAG method from the pic.
I marked some squares to turn some pikies later today.
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He that would make his own liberty secure, must guard even his enemy from oppression; for if he violates this duty, he establishes a precedent that will reach to himself.
Thomas Paine
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12-06-2009, 08:23 AM
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Do I see correctly, do you use an actual plug for a pattern with that duplicator?
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He that would make his own liberty secure, must guard even his enemy from oppression; for if he violates this duty, he establishes a precedent that will reach to himself.
Thomas Paine
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12-06-2009, 08:30 AM
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Oblivious // Grunt, Grunt Master
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Backbeach Jake
Do I see correctly, do you use an actual plug for a pattern with that duplicator?
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Yeah, that is a first. I usually use a plexiglass template in a holder that goes in the same spot. Making the templates accurately has proven difficult (without slicing the original plug in half). I tied the copier trick but it didn't work for me, and tracing the original is always off by the thickness/angle of the pencil. Then cutting and smoothing the plexiglass leads to inaccuracies. |
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12-06-2009, 08:25 AM
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Oblivious // Grunt, Grunt Master
Join Date: Nov 2005
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I've been thinking pikies as well. Seems like the GRS slim has been a good plug for some people (I've never seen one), and I'm intrigued by the shape Rock posted of one of his early plugs. Then again, these musso pines I've built swim subsurface well so I'm not sure what I will gain by moving to a pikie shape (other than a prettier plug).
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12-06-2009, 08:28 AM
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Good morning guys.
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Originally Posted by Flaptail
"Throw plugs like we do that will cause them to suffer humility. Pogies make any fisherman look good when bass are around. Bait is easy."
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12-06-2009, 09:17 AM
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Uncle Remus
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Lakeville Ma.
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*@#%^$&*()&)* I feel like crap. I thought I'd say that cause my wife and daughter don't care.
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"A beach is a place where a man can feel he's the only soul in the world that's real"
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12-06-2009, 09:22 AM
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Nice plague going around, couple of them actually. They've had me looking over my shoulder for a month now, lucky so far. Get better soon.
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He that would make his own liberty secure, must guard even his enemy from oppression; for if he violates this duty, he establishes a precedent that will reach to himself.
Thomas Paine
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12-06-2009, 09:23 AM
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Hydro Orientated Lures
Join Date: Oct 2002
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ProfessorM
*@#%^$&*()&)* I feel like crap. I thought I'd say that cause my wife and daughter don't care.
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Are you sick and tired of being sick and tired ? We can run a meeting here if you like .. |
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12-06-2009, 09:24 AM
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Turned some small poppers last night also painted up a some bottledarters.
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Originally Posted by Flaptail
"Throw plugs like we do that will cause them to suffer humility. Pogies make any fisherman look good when bass are around. Bait is easy."
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12-06-2009, 09:26 AM
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Hydro Orientated Lures
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cool pattern on that paint Lu ... sick of the same old screens ... thats very different
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12-06-2009, 09:29 AM
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Thanks Eddy.That plug is a blem i was practicing on i have a few good patterns like that i got from a member at the second plugbash he had some great patterns.
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Originally Posted by Flaptail
"Throw plugs like we do that will cause them to suffer humility. Pogies make any fisherman look good when bass are around. Bait is easy."
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12-06-2009, 09:32 AM
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Good Morning Guys. I passed out after I woke. Had a little headache. Must of been the smell of wood chips and sealer!!!. Heres whats coming out of my Plug Dungeon. 5" Stubbys needles( My stapleford), A-40's copied from an old 50"s wallhanger & BM repros . Next round of spinning will be the Atom jr style from the early seventys, BM spin Atom and a odd Atom Jr. which was given to me by an old friend. It was broke at the rear hook hanger. I epoxied it together and fish with skin. This model is slightly thinner in body and shorter by1/4". This plug also had a tail weight. Is it an Atom 54B ??
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Billy D.
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12-06-2009, 09:35 AM
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Geeze I gotta get to work, you guys are burying me..with awesome stuff no less..
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He that would make his own liberty secure, must guard even his enemy from oppression; for if he violates this duty, he establishes a precedent that will reach to himself.
Thomas Paine
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12-06-2009, 09:42 AM
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Hydro Orientated Lures
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that is very strange ... the placement of the weight below the thru wire ..
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12-06-2009, 09:50 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Tagger
that is very strange ... the placement of the weight below the thru wire ..
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Yes you are right that must of been a pain to drill as you need a big hole and then either fill or just cap it.I would guess is to lower the center of gravity to not get as much roll. |
Originally Posted by Flaptail
"Throw plugs like we do that will cause them to suffer humility. Pogies make any fisherman look good when bass are around. Bait is easy."
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12-06-2009, 09:58 AM
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Uncle Remus
Join Date: Mar 2003
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Where the hell is the Lawrence? hungover?
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"A beach is a place where a man can feel he's the only soul in the world that's real"
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12-06-2009, 10:19 AM
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Paul on the jigspook did you insert your weight side to side and then drill through it?
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12-06-2009, 10:22 AM
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Uncle Remus
Join Date: Mar 2003
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Quote:
Originally Posted by the greek
Paul on the jigspook did you insert your weight side to side and then drill through it?
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yes and I really liked the action. It is a pretty big weight for that size plug but it is kind of a fat plug too so it is a wash. |
"A beach is a place where a man can feel he's the only soul in the world that's real"
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12-20-2009, 07:26 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Tagger
that is very strange ... the placement of the weight below the thru wire ..
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Good Morning all. I'm early. No paper yet. Got 8" snow w/ wind blown drifts up to 2" . God I hate snow. Gotta plow later. George, I've been studying the 2- A54B pixs. In the xray it looks like the wire hole is say 5/16" and the weight is on the bottom and the wire slides over the top. It doesn't seem like a double cut hole by the shadow marks. I finally got the blank template set up on the lathe. Using my plastic Atom version, I come up with 1 1/16" diameter, 5 3/8" length. The pix looks like 1 1/8" dia. like an Atom Jr w/ 5 5/8"length. Do you know what the swim characteristics were in this plug w/ just a recessed tailweight? I looks to cast better the an A-jr. |
Billy D.
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12-20-2009, 07:32 AM
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Prof M. here is the rear view of my weight placement of my belly weight Wadd. the hole 3/16" and below a 1/4" dowel plugging up the remaining hole. Put entire blank on lathe and spin away. I do go slower when I approach the dowel area.
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12-20-2009, 09:08 AM
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Oblivious // Grunt, Grunt Master
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Quote:
Originally Posted by pbadad
George, I've been studying the 2- A54B pixs. In the xray it looks like the wire hole is say 5/16" and the weight is on the bottom and the wire slides over the top. It doesn't seem like a double cut hole by the shadow marks. I finally got the blank template set up on the lathe. Using my plastic Atom version, I come up with 1 1/16" diameter, 5 3/8" length. The pix looks like 1 1/8" dia. like an Atom Jr w/ 5 5/8"length. Do you know what the swim characteristics were in this plug w/ just a recessed tailweight? I looks to cast better the an A-jr.
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The small wooden atom jr I have is 5 1/2" long and 1.18" (1 3/16' I think) wide.
The larger unfinished wood atom jr body I have is 6 1/4" long and 1.20 thick. No hook holes. The tail is .53" wide, the tail taper begins about 2 1/2" from the end and is straight over the last 2 ". The diameter at 2" from the tail is 1.17" (approx 1 1/8). The nose is quite blunt, curving over about 3/8". The plug is very tight grained white cedar. Old growth I'll bet. Nothing like the white cedar we can get now.
The smaller version (whose xray I posted) is .68" at the tail, begins it's taper a 2 1/2 ", most of which occurs after 2", but instead of straight is a hair concave. It's hooks are 1" and 3 1/2" back. The daimeter at the second hook is 1.09" (about 1 1/6).
The line tie is 5/16" below the lip slot. The lip is similar to the one Salty sells.
Last edited by numbskull; 12-20-2009 at 09:16 AM..
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12-06-2009, 09:36 AM
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Uncle Remus
Join Date: Mar 2003
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that's the problem with being the last in the house to get sick. Nobody wants to hear about it any more ok back to plugs. Here is what I did this week and weekend.
First is a needle I am addicted to. I made some skinner maple ones and some of th normal size AYC. Got the soft maple from Scott and it is beautiful stuff and not too much waste. I always use a few varieties of wood to see if some really good might happen.
Second is the Nike size I like and out of a few different woods
Third is the slim danny, Gary2 copy. I gave my next to last one to George's friend. Really like this plug. Kind of an in between plug. I tried some out of Port Orford for the first time but I prefer AYC.
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"A beach is a place where a man can feel he's the only soul in the world that's real"
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12-06-2009, 09:43 AM
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Great looking plugs guys looks like 2010 is going to be a good plugbuilding year.Sorta like wine i can smell the ayc bouquet with a hint of port oxford in that nike.  |
Originally Posted by Flaptail
"Throw plugs like we do that will cause them to suffer humility. Pogies make any fisherman look good when bass are around. Bait is easy."
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12-06-2009, 09:46 AM
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Hydro Orientated Lures
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Paul ,,, that needle .. is that your own design ? ...
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12-06-2009, 09:53 AM
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This weeks work
Hello to all, this is what I have been working on this week! Thanks to Prof. M I got a Nike done last night. I'm pretty satisfied with it. Trying to get more info on some of the old plugs so I can reproduce this winter, love the old ones!! Lou
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 "The lips stand out because she wants to suck on your Pikie."....Mike Laptew
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