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Old 07-09-2010, 05:30 PM   #1
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John - I'm using a Penn Spinfisher metall 6500 and a Lami SK10MHS 3-8 oz....probably beginner equip, but I am just that.

It's just frustrating, cause I'm doing great from my kayak in the southern worc county ponds ....then I go to the Canal and..well....just not so good.

Anyways, thanks guys and I'm going to continue to hit this field near me and simply practice, practice...
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Old 07-09-2010, 07:18 PM   #2
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Casting is fun and often distracts you from fishing effectively. It is hard not to cast as far as you can on every cast which often results in fishing the structure close to you poorly. Start tight and work out.
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Old 07-09-2010, 08:12 PM   #3
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I cast like a chick. Distance is usually overrated.
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Old 07-09-2010, 08:31 PM   #4
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I cast a country mile. When I want to I can launch a plug...even an eel a country mile....

That being said, I often get trimmed out there by people who cast 1/2 as far... Drive for show, putt for dough.

The charm of fishing is that it is the pursuit of what is elusive but attainable, a perpetual series of occasions for hope. ~John Buchan
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Old 07-10-2010, 12:26 AM   #5
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I love my braid helps me cast that country mile. How come the guys that cant cast far can launch a lure way out when there line snaps? LOL
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Old 07-10-2010, 03:28 AM   #6
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I cast like a chick. Distance is usually overrated.
....Look like a chick.....dress like a chick....
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Old 07-10-2010, 07:10 AM   #7
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Old 07-11-2010, 10:01 PM   #8
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Rather be the guy catching fish than the guy who casts the farthest!! I have rarely seen the two go hand in hand??

Almost time to get our fish on!!!
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Old 07-12-2010, 08:35 AM   #9
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Rather be the guy catching fish than the guy who casts the farthest!! I have rarely seen the two go hand in hand??
It happens. Casting distance isn't the end all to catching fish. But it sure helps to be able to launch a plug out there when you NEED to.

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Old 07-12-2010, 08:35 AM   #10
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Rather be the guy catching fish than the guy who casts the farthest!! I have rarely seen the two go hand in hand??
I agree I think its so funny when guys are like I can cast farther than you. Casting distance to me is way over rated.
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Old 07-12-2010, 09:29 AM   #11
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Rather be the guy catching fish than the guy who casts the farthest!! I have rarely seen the two go hand in hand??
Nothing wrong with trying to hit breaking fish when you got the skunk on. I had casting envy awhile back. This site helped me gear up properly and focus on my swing. After reading Arra's book, watching videos and practicing, it helped me on my all around casting game. I would have never focus on casting technique withou the envy, which has helped me a great deal even outside the canal. Let the guy go for it, you never know where it will take him
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Old 07-12-2010, 12:04 PM   #12
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Rather be the guy catching fish than the guy who casts the farthest!! I have rarely seen the two go hand in hand??
Ask anyone who has fished a strong onshore wind with MAKAI. Throwing sandeels or tin while trying to punch through winds 15-20 in your face has consistently proven to me that distance can often make all the difference. Numerous times last year, that extra 20-30 yards has been the difference between getting 30-40" fish as opposed to 20-30" fish.

I'd rather have the tools and not need them, then not have the tools at all.
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Old 07-12-2010, 12:21 PM   #13
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Ask anyone who has fished a strong onshore wind with MAKAI. Throwing sandeels or tin while trying to punch through winds 15-20 in your face has consistently proven to me that distance can often make all the difference. Numerous times last year, that extra 20-30 yards has been the difference between getting 30-40" fish as opposed to 20-30" fish.

I'd rather have the tools and not need them, then not have the tools at all.
I agree. I've fished a spot where I was the only guy out of 5 or 6 people fishing that was catching anything bigger than schoolies. The bigger fish were way out from shore and I was the only guy who had the gear and heavy enough plugs to reach them.

Sometimes the fish are in so close that my wife could reach them, but sometimes they are out of range for a lot of people. Why do guys get in wetsuits and swim out to rocks to stand on if it doesn't matter how far out you get your bait?

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Old 07-12-2010, 01:09 PM   #14
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Rather be the guy catching fish than the guy who casts the farthest!! I have rarely seen the two go hand in hand??
I have.

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Old 07-12-2010, 01:43 PM   #15
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Old 07-12-2010, 01:45 PM   #16
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Another thing to ponder is that maybe those bass that hit at your feet, some of them have followed the bait all the way in from far out only to hit it at the last second before it escapes into the shoreline or the instinct of the fish tells itself to strike before he misses his chance sort of. they are fish, they swim.
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Old 07-12-2010, 02:37 PM   #17
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Well......I have no trouble doing both......however my point was that distance means zippo if the rest of your game is not good! You have to know how to present what you are using! More often than not, IMO......the fish are generally in closer than one needs to cast. I stress...MORE OFTEN THAN NOT!

Almost time to get our fish on!!!
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Old 07-12-2010, 01:16 PM   #18
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Rather be the guy catching fish than the guy who casts the farthest!! I have rarely seen the two go hand in hand??
Couldn't disagree more!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Seems to me it actually matters often!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Can be the difference between going small and large also !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I think I got a pretty damn nice pencil popper that seems to cast a mile recently. Was that a waste of money???????

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Old 07-11-2010, 05:37 PM   #19
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John - I'm using a Penn Spinfisher metall 6500 and a Lami SK10MHS 3-8 oz....probably beginner equip, but I am just that.
What are you throwing? Lures? Bucktails (or jigs as you northerners call them) ? What weights?

If your rod is rated for 3-8 oz and you are throwing 1 or 2 oz lures then they are not going to load up the rod properly resulting in poor distance.

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Suggest buying or borrowing Ron Arra's book and practice casting off the ground as he describes. It really helped me to understand what loading the rod really means and recognizing when you find the sweet spot. Not just for distance casting, but for casting in general. Also, I got some great suggestions form the guys on this sight about matching rods and reels for the canal. Use the search feature and you'll find some good stuff on this topic. Then find a low bank on the canal and go to the top. Get a pencil at about the middle of the rod rating or slightly higher than the middle. Use the "off the ground" technique and I think you'll be surprised.

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