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Old 03-09-2018, 02:49 PM   #31
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"You keep assuming that what the Conservative news says is America's viewpoint"
Here you go
"Obama answered the question...
America was repulsed by the answer..."


Never said anything like that in this thread, not even close. I said the media has a huge left-leaning bias. And frustration over that bias, helped Trump. You disagree?

"Most Americans would have forgotten Hillary, Obama and certainly Bill by now if the person in office did not keep bringing them up "

You don't get it. People are tired of the double standard. That's the only reason why they are still part of the conversation, evidence of the glaring double standard.
Trumps Gaslighting seems to have removed your ability to think critically

"inability to have an agenda other than to make sure any thing that his predecessor did was eliminated or soiled"

That's Trump's entire agenda? He hasn't done anything in terms of the economy that's helping people? Nothing?
Trumps effect on the economy is far less than he claims, look at the monthly GDP and employment for the last ten years and show me the magic, now remember that when he was campaigning all those numbers were BS. Now they have miraculously become real and he is taking credit for anything possible to move attention away from the "witch hunt"

I'm not a huge Sarah Palin fan, there's all kinds of legitimate ways to criticize her. But you absolutely dodged the point I made, which is that the media used her Down Syndrome baby against her. You have no comment on that, apparently. Fine.
You seized on a dot in time that has long been forgotten to prove a nonexistent point. A media source becomes The media, if you repeat lies often and long enough they become true,
ask Donald Trump if it works
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"America was repulsed by the answer...""

I see. You are denying that when Obama said we need to "spread the wealth around" that America hated that answer. If you deny that, it's very difficult to see how we can have a rational discussion. Polling showed that answer was unpopular, which is why the liberal establishment focused its wrath on the guy who asked the question. Deny that all you want. But that's what happened.

"Trumps Gaslighting seems to have removed your ability to think critically"

I have been harshly critical of Trump.

"Trumps effect on the economy is far less than he claims"

Oh, I see.

You said hi sonly agenda is to make people forget Obama. He picked a superb Supreme Court Justice, he signed popular tax changes into law, he removed all kinds of burdensome business regulations.

"look at the monthly GDP and employment for the last ten years and show me the magic"

Unemployment isn't low? That's what you are saying?

"You seized on a dot in time that has long been forgotten to prove a nonexistent point"

Which is it? Is my example old, or is it irrelevant? Using a Down Syndrome baby as a political weapon obviously means nothing to you, as long as your side gains. You have the right to that opinion. I think it's disgusting.

I could have pointed to a million examples of media bias (CNN giving debate questions to Hilary comes to mind). I chose ones I found to be particularly offensive.

"You do know Bill Maher is a comedian, perhaps a political one"

I wasn't legitimizing Bill Maher. The only reason I posted that was to show the date of the rumors., it had nothing to do with Maher. Spence seemed to be saying that the rumors about Palin's grandson were not part of the 2008 presidential election, and obviously they were. So I'll ask again, why on Earth, would Karl Rove sabotage the McCain/Palin ticket, in the fall of 2008? Karl Rove wanted Obama to win? That's what Spence believes? In any event, you guys seemed to think those rumors came about in an election other than the 2008 election. It was in 2008.
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Old 03-09-2018, 03:13 PM   #32
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Spence seemed to be saying that the rumors about Palin's grandson were not part of the 2008 presidential election, and obviously they were. So I'll ask again, why on Earth, would Karl Rove sabotage the McCain/Palin ticket, in the fall of 2008? Karl Rove wanted Obama to win? That's what Spence believes? In any event, you guys seemed to think those rumors came about in an election other than the 2008 election. It was in 2008.
The Rove whisper campaign was in the 2000 primary when McCain won NH and Bush need to win SC.
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Old 03-09-2018, 03:26 PM   #33
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The Rove whisper campaign was in the 2000 primary when McCain won NH and Bush need to win SC.
You are talking about the rumors that McCain fathered his adopted daughter, not the rumors about Palin and her son. You were correct.
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Old 03-22-2018, 08:48 AM   #34
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Hope DJT isn't the white Bill Cosby, with porn stars and playboy models coming out of the woodwork now, we all know how easily distracted he can get and don't get me started on how thin his skin is.

Does it embarrass anyone that the president of our country feels the need to get into a sticks and stones can break my bones childish argument with Joe Biden over how Joe would have treated Donald had they met in high school?

He doesn't listen to advice by those that are paid to give it. He is obsessed with TV and the media; how is this guy doing a job for those that voted for him? If you feel he is doing a job, I suspect any means towards an end is OK. While I agree with "some" of what he has done, I think the example he is setting and the new acceptable conduct in the white house, is really IMHO so wrong on so many levels.
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Hope DJT isn't the white Bill Cosby, with porn stars and playboy models coming out of the woodwork now, we all know how easily distracted he can get and don't get me started on how thin his skin is.

Does it embarrass anyone that the president of our country feels the need to get into a sticks and stones can break my bones childish argument with Joe Biden over how Joe would have treated Donald had they met in high school?

He doesn't listen to advice by those that are paid to give it. He is obsessed with TV and the media; how is this guy doing a job for those that voted for him? If you feel he is doing a job, I suspect any means towards an end is OK. While I agree with "some" of what he has done, I think the example he is setting and the new acceptable conduct in the white house, is really IMHO so wrong on so many levels.
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Yeah Bill had some issues too, but Bill was intent on doing a good job too, watching this administration is like watched the apprentice on TV. That too was an embarrassment, but was more like real life, man not happy with marriage and wife; add some presidential power and wallah blue stained dress and he has some explaining to do.

Why do we and DJT too, have to be blaming or comparing what other administrations or other politicians have done, why can't we focus on the here and now. Nothing can change the past, I'm more concerned out the present and more importantly HOW THIS CHANGES THE FUTURE.
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Hope DJT isn't the white Bill Cosby, with porn stars and playboy models coming out of the woodwork now, we all know how easily distracted he can get and don't get me started on how thin his skin is.
well, on the up side, he hasn't drugged anyone that we know of....yet.


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Why do we and DJT too, have to be blaming or comparing what other administrations or other politicians have done, why can't we focus on the here and now. Nothing can change the past, I'm more concerned out the present and more importantly HOW THIS CHANGES THE FUTURE.
You may have wanted to bring that up during the "BUSH'S FAULT" era

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Hope DJT isn't the white Bill Cosby,
shouldn't you be hoping he is so they can get him out of there asap?
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shouldn't you be hoping he is so they can get him out of there asap?
Much as I can’t stand this clown, I still wish he would shut off the GD TV, delete his Twitter account and spend all that free time focusing on governing. His impending trade war is already screwing around with my retirement funds, not looking forward to what impeachment proceedings would do to them.
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Much as I can’t stand this clown, I still wish he would shut off the GD TV, delete his Twitter account and spend all that free time focusing on governing.
If he can't watch Fox and Friends where is he going to get his daily intel briefing?
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If he can't watch Fox and Friends where is he going to get his daily intel briefing?
yawn......got any new material?
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The people from Fox who are in or close
Kudlow
Bolton
Nauert
Schlapp
McFarland
Hegseth
diGenova
Who's gone from State News, oops Faux, I mean Fox
George Will
Megyn Kelley
Rich Lowry
and the staunch Trump supporters moved to the forefront
Laura Ingraham
Mark Levin
Sebastian Gorka

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The people from Fox who are in or close
Kudlow
Bolton
Nauert
Schlapp
McFarland
Hegseth
diGenova
Who's gone from State News, oops Faux, I mean Fox
George Will
Megyn Kelley
Rich Lowry
and the staunch Trump supporters moved to the forefront
Laura Ingraham
Mark Levin
Sebastian Gorka
who cares?....
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who cares?....
Trump booting out anyone with a shred of competence and replacing them with cable news talking head yes men? Why would anyone care. What could go wrong?
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Is this a step up or down?

The White House press office is getting a bit more Sunshine these days -- former Disney Channel star Caroline Sunshine, that is. She's joining the team as a press assistant.

Sunshine, 22, is known for her role alongside Zendaya as Tinka Hessenheffer in "Shake It Up," a Disney Channel show about teen dancers that ran from 2010 to 2013. She was also in the 2010 film "Marmaduke," among other roles.
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Is this a step up or down?

The White House press office is getting a bit more Sunshine these days -- former Disney Channel star Caroline Sunshine, that is. She's joining the team as a press assistant.

Sunshine, 22, is known for her role alongside Zendaya as Tinka Hessenheffer in "Shake It Up," a Disney Channel show about teen dancers that ran from 2010 to 2013. She was also in the 2010 film "Marmaduke," among other roles.
It's a non-story.....

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Ahh, a new Hope for the White House

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Agreed.
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Is this a step up or down?

The White House press office is getting a bit more Sunshine these days -- former Disney Channel star Caroline Sunshine, that is. She's joining the team as a press assistant.

Sunshine, 22, is known for her role alongside Zendaya as Tinka Hessenheffer in "Shake It Up," a Disney Channel show about teen dancers that ran from 2010 to 2013. She was also in the 2010 film "Marmaduke," among other roles.
Press assistant. Not head of the CIA. You are really reaching...
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The people from Fox who are in or close
Kudlow
Bolton
Nauert
Schlapp
McFarland
Hegseth
diGenova
Who's gone from State News, oops Faux, I mean Fox
George Will
Megyn Kelley
Rich Lowry
and the staunch Trump supporters moved to the forefront
Laura Ingraham
Mark Levin
Sebastian Gorka
Megyn Kelly left to get paid a jillion dollars a year, in a way that allowed her to be home at night. What's your point?
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Press assistant. Not head of the CIA. You are really reaching...
Just shows what a bunch of crappy people he has hired. His former caddy, Amarosa, lawyers with no experience for judgeships, etc. He told us that he had the A team in his cabinet and now I guess we are down to the B team.
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Just shows what a bunch of crappy people he has hired. His former caddy, Amarosa, lawyers with no experience for judgeships, etc. He told us that he had the A team in his cabinet and now I guess we are down to the B team.
How do you know she's not qualified for whatever job she was hired for?

My God, with all the mountains of legitimate criticism this guy deserves, this is what has you worried? The person he hired for a job you never heard of?
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are there any leftists that aren't smarter than everyone else?
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Megyn Kelly left to get paid a jillion dollars a year, in a way that allowed her to be home at night. What's your point?
I guess you could ask her opinion of Trump and his lawyer?

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are there any leftists that aren't smarter than everyone else?
No, just none dumber than Authoritarians
https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/b...so-differently

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Megyn Kelly left to get paid a jillion dollars a year, in a way that allowed her to be home at night. What's your point?
I think how the network handled her criticism of the harassment problem at Fox actually had a lot to do with it.
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How do you know she's not qualified for whatever job she was hired for?Did I say that in my intial post?

My God, with all the mountains of legitimate criticism this guy deserves, this is what has you worried? The person he hired for a job you never heard of?
And it bothered you enough that you had to respond. Maybe we should discuss whether Pres. Obama was truly disrespecting the office of the President when he wore a brown suit since that go so much press from the right when it happened.

It is just funny how unqualified some of the people he has hired have been. Betsy Devoss looks silly every time she appears before Congress.
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leftists aren't smarter than everyone else but it appears Fox news viewers know less about current events than people who don't watch the news.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/quora/2.../#42b2643112ab
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I guess you could ask her opinion of Trump and his lawyer?
She hates Trump. That's not why she left Fox, your post implied that she was one of many people who left Fox because they didn't like Trump.
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