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05-29-2019, 05:41 PM
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Mark the date, May 29th
Mueller just handed over an invitation to impeach on a silver platter....
What now? Who blinks? Does this day go down in history?
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05-29-2019, 05:44 PM
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I think it’s even more inevitable now. Pelosi has been slow walking this for the obvious reasons but Mueller was pretty clear today in setting the record straight with what Barr has spun.
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05-29-2019, 06:46 PM
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Barr should go too, two bad apples for sure, send Trump back to NY so he can have some more legal fun,
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05-29-2019, 07:18 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Got Stripers
Barr should go too, two bad apples for sure, send Trump back to NY so he can have some more legal fun,
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Mueller said he was ok with the way Barr handled the report. did he not?
impeachment more
likely.
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05-29-2019, 08:47 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Jim in CT
Mueller said he was ok with the way Barr handled the report. did he not?
impeachment more
likely.
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No.
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05-30-2019, 12:23 PM
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Mueller's remark was very narrowly constrained to Barr's releasing of the document. The fact that he stood up to rebuke much of Barr's spin on the findings suggest Mueller has plenty of questions about Barr's good faith. |
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05-29-2019, 07:20 PM
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Mueller wouldn’t have spoken out today if he was ok with Barr’s spin of the report.
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05-29-2019, 07:38 PM
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he said today he feels
barr acted in good faith.
Muellers intent today seems
to be to
nudge congress towards impeachment. he likely succeeded.
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05-29-2019, 07:54 PM
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And on another note The Wall Street Journal just reported that Trump did not want to see the USS John McCain so they put a tarp over the name and when the tarp fell off moved a barge in front of the ship amongst other things. What a sad small man we have as president.
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05-29-2019, 08:06 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by PaulS
And on another note The Wall Street Journal just reported that Trump did not want to see the USS John McCain so they put a tarp over the name and when the tarp fell off moved a barge in front of the ship amongst other things. What a sad small man we have as president.
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Surprised he even has time to deal with such chit that would normally be the domain of an event planner..... And how does that sit with any sailor who is ordered to cover up the name of his warship???? |
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05-30-2019, 05:23 AM
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What a sad small man we have as president.
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he’s very vindictive and small.
The remedy for that is the next election, not impeachment.
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05-30-2019, 06:57 AM
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Dems keep going to the left - I might actually vote for Trump this time.
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~Fix the Bait~ ~Pogies Forever~
Striped Bass Fishing - All Stripers
Kobayashi Maru Election - there is no way to win.
Apocalypse is Coming:
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05-30-2019, 07:16 AM
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Dems keep going to the left - I might actually vote for Trump this time.
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if there’s an impeachable offense, i’m assuming we both want him impeached. but it appears as if this is all because they can’t stand the guy. and he acts in a way that makes it very challenging to like him, I’ll give the liberals that.
Anything to avoid an honest, accurate discussion about whether or not his ideas or Bernie Sanders’ ideas, are best for all of America.
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05-30-2019, 07:31 AM
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Quote:
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Dems keep going to the left - I might actually vote for Trump this time.
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I said I might vote for him because that is what they deserve for the way they have behaved since the election
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05-30-2019, 08:10 AM
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Quote:
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Dems keep going to the left - I might actually vote for Trump this time.
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Repub. went far to the right so I stopped voting for them. I think I've still voted for more Repub. Pres. than Dems. |
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05-30-2019, 09:51 AM
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Originally Posted by PaulS
Repub. went far to the right so I stopped voting for them. I think I've still voted for more Repub. Pres. than Dems.
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when was the national GOP far more moderate than it is now? Mitch McConnell, Paul Ryan are conservative extremists? Come on. John McCain, Mitt Romney, even Trump isn’t that conservative.
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05-31-2019, 04:50 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by PaulS
And on another note The Wall Street Journal just reported that Trump did not want to see the USS John McCain so they put a tarp over the name and when the tarp fell off moved a barge in front of the ship amongst other things. What a sad small man we have as president.
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This didn’t happen, even CNN is admitting it didn’t happen, Trump played zero role.
the media will say or do
anything to make him look bad. Can’t we just stick to facts? Arent there enough truthful moral lapses to criticize him for?
You need to take everything they say, with a grain of salt. Everything. They are not capable or reporting accurately on Trump, they are literally incapable of doing it.
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05-29-2019, 08:10 PM
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Supposedly, because their caps say USS McCain, they were given the day off....
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05-30-2019, 05:31 PM
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Jeff is hot on the trail of code red time!
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05-31-2019, 07:08 AM
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The fact was that someone in Trump's admin. know that the baby in chief wouldn't want to see the ship or even the badge of a sailor w/the name on it. A tarp was even put over the name. So we have an whole admin. who now is as petty and small as our Pres. If this was the Obama admin. you would be talking about for years. He again mocked a deceased American (hero) even after duck ing out on military service. How is this not bad?
Why bring up CNN when WSJ broke the story?
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05-31-2019, 07:23 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by PaulS
The fact was that someone in Trump's admin. know that the baby in chief wouldn't want to see the ship or even the badge of a sailor w/the name on it. A tarp was even put over the name. So we have an whole admin. who now is as petty and small as our Pres. If this was the Obama admin. you would be talking about for years. He again mocked a deceased American (hero) even after duck ing out on military service. How is this not bad?
Why bring up CNN when WSJ broke the story?
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i don’t know that we
know why it was moved, or who requested it. what we
know is that the WSJ said trump had it moved, and we
know he didn’t. I mention CNN because they have also been known to lie to attack trump, but they are reporting that this story was fabricated by a wsj reporter who has a well documented history of blatantly dishonest reporting to smear Trump. Add the wsj to the list of media outlets that can’t be trusted. i honestly don’t know who’s left? Fox has Sean Hannity who is a dishonest clown, and from where i sit, almost everyone else is the mirror image of him.
that wasn’t a critique of
you Paul, not at all, you know i think you’re mostly fair
and honest. that was a critique of the media, all of whom have abandoned any journalistic integrity they had remaining after the obama years, in an attempt to take down the guy who humiliated them all. they can’t be trusted any more than sean hannity can be trusted. i know of one person in prime
time who regularly criticized his own side when they deserve it, and regularly praises the other side when hey deserve it - Tucker Carlson. Who else routinely praises and criticizes both sides?
obama
once gave a speech at notre dame, and some catholic items behind obama were covered with a tarp during the speech. You’re right i was offended by that. I’d also be offended if trump had that ship
moved or had a tarp put on the name. we
don’t know that trump did that. i’m not a glaring hypocrite, i am disgusted by how small and petty and vindictive trump is. but his policies are working wonderfully, and that’s far more important than his bedside manner.
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05-31-2019, 07:30 AM
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Even if Trump didn't direct that action to hide the name, it's pretty sad that our military is playing partisan politics, because we have a thin skinned commander and chief who has no respect for those that have served if they aren't playing his game.
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05-31-2019, 07:54 AM
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Originally Posted by Got Stripers
Even if Trump didn't direct that action to hide the name, it's pretty sad that our military is playing partisan politics, because we have a thin skinned commander and chief who has no respect for those that have served if they aren't playing his game.
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"it's pretty sad that our military is playing partisan politics"
if that's what happened, I agree with you. Do we know for sure what happened? All I know, is that a WSJ reporter got caught lying.
"we have a thin skinned commander and chief who has no respect for those that have served "
Trump spoke at the Air Force academy graduation this week, and shook hands with 1,000 graduating students.
If you took a poll of the entire US military and asked them who respects them more, Trump or Obama...do you really have any doubt what the results would be?
Obama is a plutocrat who is more comfortable with the swells. Trump isn't that. Trump is a lot of bad things, but what he's not, is an elitist.
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05-31-2019, 07:46 AM
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Yes, no complaints about how our Pres. has attempted to politicize the military.
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05-31-2019, 07:54 AM
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Yes, no complaints about how our Pres. has attempted to politicize the military.
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Here you go...it's disgusting when Trump tries to politicize the US military.
OK?
And trumps refusal
to let go of his feud with McCain, is pathetic. i think trump is a million times better as a politician than mccain ever was in terms
if enacting policy that helps people, but mccain was the better man by far. we elected trump
to improve our lives, not to be a role model for how to behave.
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05-31-2019, 03:54 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Jim in CT
Here you go...it's disgusting when Trump tries to politicize the US military.
OK?
And trumps refusal
to let go of his feud with McCain, is pathetic. i think trump is a million times better as a politician than mccain ever was in terms
if enacting policy that helps people, but mccain was the better man by far. we elected trump
to improve our lives, not to be a role model for how to behave.
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that statement is very sad indeed .... to bad he has done neither .. PS who is We
Trump’s tariffs are equivalent to one of the largest tax increases in decades... but again the faithful look the other way |
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05-31-2019, 04:58 PM
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that statement is very sad indeed .... to bad he has done neither .. PS who is We
Trump’s tariffs are equivalent to one of the largest tax increases in decades... but again the faithful look the other way
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stock market up, unemployment down, gdp up, wages up. personal
income taxes down.
sorry wdmso, he gets credit for
some of that. if you deny that, you are incapable of having a conversation with.
it’s also worth pointing out that the alternative candidate wasn’t exactly a model of virtue either. character wasn't on the ballot, THATS what is truly sad. if it’s a choice between two reptiles, and it was exactly that, I prefer the one who will help the economy, protect individual rights, take jihadists seriously, and appoint judges who are guided by the constitution and not by their personal activism.
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05-31-2019, 05:00 PM
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Trump’s tariffs are equivalent to one of the largest tax increases in decades... but again the faithful look the other way
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His tariffs won’t be permanent, and are also helping to bring more jobs back - you left that part out, gee i wonder why. US steel is
investing in a huge steel
plant in PA. just in time for the 2020 election.
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