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07-28-2022, 02:08 PM
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#31
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Originally Posted by pbadad
Looks like a level.sink. 8" long?
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Slight tail down, and have a shimmy in the water. Think superstrike 1 3/4oz and a Habs 2oz combined. |
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07-28-2022, 06:25 PM
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#32
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Originally Posted by t_man7
Carlezon needlefish duplicates.
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Tommy, birch dowels? grain looks different then the ones i bought. i have been starting to use more belly weights in needles and getting a better swim/glide out of them. |
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07-28-2022, 07:35 PM
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#33
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Originally Posted by derekH
Tommy, birch dowels? grain looks different then the ones i bought. i have been starting to use more belly weights in needles and getting a better swim/glide out of them.
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Birch and one sugar maple, the grain is obvious on the maple one.
These are kiln dried birch dowels from kelloggs hardwood years ago.
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07-29-2022, 07:43 AM
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#34
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Tommy is that a screw eye hook hole? Looks like a recession to fill w/ epoxy.
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07-29-2022, 12:39 PM
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#35
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Originally Posted by pbadad
Tommy is that a screw eye hook hole? Looks like a recession to fill w/ epoxy.
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Yes, wanted to keep it traditional. I figured through drilling with a 5/32 bit would remove too much wood buoyancy and impede upon the action.
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07-29-2022, 02:43 PM
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#36
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Tommy, back in 2008 Flaptail posted the "sd special needlefish" its for an eelskin. it is also built with screw eyes. It is worth building a couple. It works, i changed it a little to thru wire this last year. but the original caught worked good for me
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07-29-2022, 05:47 PM
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#37
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Originally Posted by t_man7
Yes, wanted to keep it traditional. I figured through drilling with a 5/32 bit would remove too much wood buoyancy and impede upon the action.
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True. Maybe thru one and drop the equivalent weight of wire. Im sure u can create the same effect.
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Billy D.
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07-30-2022, 11:42 AM
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#38
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Originally Posted by derekH
Tommy, back in 2008 Flaptail posted the "sd special needlefish" its for an eelskin. it is also built with screw eyes. It is worth building a couple. It works, i changed it a little to thru wire this last year. but the original caught worked good for me
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http://www.striped-bass.com/Stripert...ial+needlefish
Neat plug, I’ll have to give it a shot. Thanks for sharing! |
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07-30-2022, 12:41 PM
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#39
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Derek what’s the diameter on the SD SPECIAL?
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07-30-2022, 06:32 PM
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#40
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Tommy, first ones i made i used 3/4 . birch dowel. the thru wire i am playing around with this year i am using ayc and more lead mid plug.
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07-30-2022, 09:18 PM
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#41
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Originally Posted by derekH
Tommy, first ones i made i used 3/4 . birch dowel. the thru wire i am playing around with this year i am using ayc and more lead mid plug.
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Upload some pics, I would like to try my hand at a few; and learn from your mistakes as well!
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07-31-2022, 05:04 AM
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#42
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Originally Posted by t_man7
Upload some pics, I would like to try my hand at a few; and learn from your mistakes as well!
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tommy, tried to put pictures on computer years ago, never figured it out. could not figure out how to save them or where they were, dont have a cell phone other then old flip phone in truck for emergency. It would be nice to be able to sell stuff, but i made it this long so the hell with it |
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08-01-2022, 11:31 AM
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#43
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Originally Posted by derekH
tommy, tried to put pictures on computer years ago, never figured it out. could not figure out how to save them or where they were, dont have a cell phone other then old flip phone in truck for emergency. It would be nice to be able to sell stuff, but i made it this long so the hell with it
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If you can email me them, I can post them up.
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08-01-2022, 01:30 PM
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#44
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Very Grumpy bay man
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: Rhode Island
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Some not so recent.
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No boat, back in the suds.  
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08-01-2022, 05:15 PM
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#45
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Originally Posted by t_man7
If you can email me them, I can post them up.
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I cant email them to me! i couldnt figure how to get them on the computer. computer i have now has no place to put the card thing. i was told i have to buy something that plugs into the computer.. I was happy with film |
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08-01-2022, 06:44 PM
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#46
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Originally Posted by derekH
I cant email them to me! i couldnt figure how to get them on the computer. computer i have now has no place to put the card thing. i was told i have to buy something that plugs into the computer.. I was happy with film
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Hmm, if I ever see you bring it along. Problem solved haha
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08-07-2022, 12:22 PM
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#47
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Very Grumpy bay man
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OK!!! I have had it with this heat. I am giving up on working on one of my decks and going to the plug room in the basement to TURN!!!!!
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No boat, back in the suds.
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08-07-2022, 12:42 PM
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#48
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Originally Posted by piemma
OK!!! I have had it with this heat. I am giving up on working on one of my decks and going to the plug room in the basement to TURN!!!!!
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SMART MAN! My dog will sit in the shop with me for hours while I test my designs in the pool. Best plug partner I’ve had. He will watch them swim, if they’re good he keeps his eyes locked in on it.
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08-09-2022, 04:57 AM
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#49
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Originally Posted by t_man7
SMART MAN! My dog will sit in the shop with me for hours while I test my designs in the pool. Best plug partner I’ve had. He will watch them swim, if they’re good he keeps his eyes locked in on it.
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Love it Tommy. We should figure out how to fish at least once during the fall run. |
No boat, back in the suds.
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08-09-2022, 10:24 AM
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#50
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Originally Posted by piemma
Love it Tommy. We should figure out how to fish at least once during the fall run.
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Totally, let’s do it
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08-15-2022, 06:36 PM
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#51
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MS Slammer
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08-16-2022, 01:59 AM
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#52
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Very Grumpy bay man
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WOW!!
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No boat, back in the suds.
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08-16-2022, 07:34 AM
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#53
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Tommy u joining the "mouse " club!LOL
Bet it swims great on top with that lip.
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08-17-2022, 01:23 PM
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#54
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Originally Posted by pbadad
Tommy u joining the "mouse " club!LOL
Bet it swims great on top with that lip.
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Ha, this one I cut the tail fin slot too wide and stuck a sluggo in. The rest get a soft plastic tail.
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10-11-2022, 08:14 PM
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#55
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Anyone turning?
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10-12-2022, 05:03 AM
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#56
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Originally Posted by t_man7
Anyone turning?
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Experimental sand eel swimmers and Darter hell. and soon to enjoy system 3 and cold temperatures. I need to build a enclosed box that i can control temp |
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10-13-2022, 08:54 PM
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#57
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Originally Posted by pbadad
Derek you may have sealer bleed. 4hrs is way too long to soak. The excess sealer internally may not of fully cured even though its been awhile. I say this because I tried hot soak birch a couple years ago. Yes it absorbed the sealer quick but too much. I was increasing the needle weight by 6-9 grams. The wood weighed unsealed 28 grams. Thats approx 25%. Within a couple weeks of finishing the process of prime- epoxy., I noticed clear coat lifting on half of the needles. The clear cost lifted everything from the bare wood.
Mind you Ive been doing this same needle for 10yrs or so and the only difference done was this excessive soak. Immediately I went back to my proven.method of 30minute cold soak in 60/40 spar varnish and mineral spirits.
BTW I ended up scraping off all the needles to bare wood and let them dry for a month. I weighed them first then after. Found a drop of half the added weight from the sealer. Fellow builders have done experiments in sealing soak times and found no benefit from soaks longer than 10 minutes.
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I heat some of my plugs, specifically maple darters to be epoxy sealed. Because epoxy chemically cures there is no off-gassing issue later. The result is a super strong plug, especially considering the bottom lip takes abuse and maple is not sealed well splits, I find the extra time to epoxy seal darters is worth it for me. Ayc darter lips, even if sealed this way still break. |
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10-16-2022, 12:20 PM
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#58
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Very Grumpy bay man
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Anyone turning?
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Tommy, I have been making some needles for DZ and Bob Huddy. We are fishing The Block the last week of the month on the New Moon. I'll post some pics when I get 5 seconds to breath. My better half has me transplanting stuff after I worked at the GC this morning. |
No boat, back in the suds.
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10-17-2022, 11:48 PM
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#59
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Originally Posted by derekH
Experimental sand eel swimmers and Darter hell. and soon to enjoy system 3 and cold temperatures. I need to build a enclosed box that i can control temp
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Epoxy and cold temps do not mix. Best of luck!
What style sandeel swimmers? I found the slopehead gives them a little better swim, and cupping the lip.
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10-18-2022, 05:00 AM
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#60
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Originally Posted by t_man7
Epoxy and cold temps do not mix. Best of luck!
What style sandeel swimmers? I found the slopehead gives them a little better swim, and cupping the lip.
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The sand eel swimmer that Rockfish9 posted a how to on,Tried a couple different lips. rwc, pine, ayc. and some board thats been in the shop for 40 years +. I thought it was pine but sucks up sealer more then any wood i tried.
Lost 2 Agitators to huge bluefish last couple days. so they are on the list to do now |
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