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Old 02-14-2003, 09:38 AM   #1
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Homefront Security

How's everyone else handling this heightened state of national security and the precautions we're supposed to be taking on the homefront? My wife's freaking out telling me we have to rig a room in our house like it's nothing short of a bomb shelter. I can see having a plan and stocking up on supplies just in case we lose power or water gets contaminated, stuff like that, but I don't understand how enclosing a room in plastic is going to prevent anything as far as chemical fallout, if it comes to that, just prolong the period before it gets to us. What does anyone think or know about all the hype and 48 hour survival kits and such?
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Old 02-14-2003, 01:08 PM   #2
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How about that nutjob guy on the news who wrapped his whole house in plastic? I am not going to live in a bubble, I have faith in our guys overseas, and if there are terrorists here to cause harm, then we will find them too.
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Old 02-14-2003, 01:22 PM   #3
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We need rain or snow to knock the stuff out of the air. I don't think there is much you can really do except get out of the area till the contaminants dissipate...........

Don't know how much we can really do but have faith in God and the people who protect us.

You may want to have food water gasoline a full oil tank and cash around just in case our infastructure is attacked.
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Old 02-14-2003, 01:34 PM   #4
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Nothing wrong with being a little prepared... But wrapping your entire house?

I lived in Germany in the Mid 80s. When Chernobyl went up in a radioactive cloud some of that radiation moved as far west as France. Where we were in Germany we tested the High School's ventilation filters and they were 47 times normal. It took months of cleaning public facilities, plenty of rain storms, and lots of testing before our area was considered marginally safe.

There are so many potential variables IF something were to happen that wrapping a room in plastic will probably do no good. If practical you need to exit the area and stay upwind, like Fishpart said.

One part of me says to have a little faith in the officials and I do trust our guys overseas like Slip says. But having lived under different terrorist threats from a different class of terrorist when living in Europe, thinking worst case scenarios or even considering how to carry them out is really easy. So in the best of circumstances, it "could" still be easy for a terrorist to get away with attacks. That's one thing that really peeves me about the news media. They go out of their way to come up with scenarios and maybe even inadvertantly shown the bad guys a trick or too....

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Old 02-14-2003, 10:34 PM   #5
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the other weekend I flipped off a war protester....yup I did!

so I wanna know if the same people protesting are the same people freaking out and wrapping their buttholes with saran!???

guess what ...thats why we need to do this....these kinds of threats should not exist...we arent talking bam...a few people die..we are talking about biological chemical etc....guess what...??? Thousands of people get sick and die, today next week, next month, in ten years...or how about if all the soil and water for many many miles was completely contaminated???? think of the chaos short term AND LONG TERM!!!

I say this sicko needs to go!!!

and God bless those who make it happen!
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Old 02-15-2003, 11:59 AM   #6
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theres a big protest planned!!

i think in washington coming up the warning says stay away from big gatherings! may god watch over these protesters there americans, and could be potential targets i hope nobody opens a can of s..t on them! i think they need to go home and watch the videos of sept 11, again!! and rethink this over!!
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Old 02-15-2003, 03:55 PM   #7
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Homeland security???? You decide.
Former Coastie sends...

Armed Cuban border guards defect in Key West
BY JENNIFER BABSON
jbabson@herald.com

KEY WEST - Four heavily armed members of the Cuban Border Guard -- dressed in green fatigues and wearing black boots -- sprinted by boat early Friday to Key West, where they flagged down a police officer near the city's main entertainment strip and were taken into custody.

The men told a Key West police officer that they were patrolling Cuban waters in a speedboat when they decided to make a run for freedom.

When they arrived in Key West at about 4 a.m., the men tied up their boat at a hotel marina and set out on foot. The trip had taken three hours.

A Key West police officer spotted them walking around several blocks from where they docked. Affixed to the waistband of one of the men: A loaded, Chinese-made handgun. He was also carrying an extra magazine, police said.

The Cubans told another officer who interviewed them in Spanish that they were ``tired of the impoverished conditions and frustrated with not being able to own their homes.''

They also asked to telephone family members in Miami.

One of the men told police he was a 14-year veteran of Cuba's Border Guard.

Authorities had no trouble finding the boat in which the men made their voyage. Tied up in a hotel marina, it was affixed with a blue light bar and a Cuban flag. The boat is now moored at a Coast Guard station in Key West.

The boat's radio was also tuned to the Coast Guard's frequency, police said.

When police searched the speedboat, they found two AK-47s and eight fully loaded magazines containing about 240 bullets.

The men were taken into police custody and transported to the Monroe County Detention Center. Early Friday, they left Key West in the custody of the U.S. Border Patrol.

An Miami-based FBI spokeswoman said Friday morning that the bureau would also be interviewing the men.

The Coast Guard had no comment Friday morning about the incident.

''I can't say anything yet,'' said Luis Diaz, a Coast Guard spokesman. ``This is a very sensitive issue that has to go through the State Department.''

The U.S. State Department said it planned to issue a statement in a few hours.

''We are aware of the situation and we will have coment on the matter later this afternoon,'' said Robert Zimmerman, a spokesman for department's Western Hemisphere bureau.

U.S. Sen. Bill Nelson said, ``The net that we have around the country -- in this case Coast Guard patroling -- is not 100 percent foolproof. That's the lesson.''

Nelson noted that the migrants in this case were ''not intent on harm,'' but were ``intent on freedom.''

Calls to a spokesman for the Cuban Interests Section in Washington, D.C. were not immediately returned Friday.

The unusual landing was the second disturbing security breach in six days that the Coast Guard appears to have missed in the Keys.

On Saturday, five Cuban fishermen in a large state-owned boat bearing Spanish lettering motored right into a piece of U.S. Navy owned property in Key West in broad daylight.

The fishermen brought the stolen 40-foot boat between 150 and 200 yards from a massive cruiseship, jumped into a dinghy, and rowed 20 feet to shore, according to a Key West police officer who saw them land.

Not far from where the group reached shore is the secretive Joint Interagency Task Force East -- a key nerve center for the drug war that houses over 200 U.S. military officials, federal agents, and liason officers from Latin American countries.
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Old 03-29-2011, 08:37 PM   #8
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i went and bought KELP

5 lbs worth to fertilize all my home grown veggies with
so i'll be eating plenty of iodine
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Old 03-29-2011, 09:40 PM   #9
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talk about digging this one from the grave....

but they are bringing this crap up on the news again. talking head i saw a few nights ago said you should have 6 months living expenses in CASH!!! WTF LOL. Should I keep it in my treasure room with my gold bars and piles of jewels??

i bent my wookie
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Old 03-29-2011, 10:48 PM   #10
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All am stocking up on is guns and ammo, I can use this to get as much water and supplies I need lol
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Old 03-30-2011, 04:39 AM   #11
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but they are bringing this crap up on the news again. talking head i saw a few nights ago said you should have 6 months living expenses in CASH!!! WTF LOL. Should I keep it in my treasure room with my gold bars and piles of jewels??
Heck NO! the treasure room must be in your YAUGHT vault.
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