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Was a dumbass thing to sat though I won't do the pavlovian leap and blame it on the Obama admin unless it turns out some political appointed hack made the call...
What do you expect? He was a COMMUNITY ORGANIZER! And don't tell me he was pissed. His first emotion should have been embarassment, not anger. It's his plane, on his orders. He should have issued an immediate apology to the people of New York. Is this the leadership we are waiting for?
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What do you expect? He was a COMMUNITY ORGANIZER! And don't tell me he was pissed. His first emotion should have been embarassment, not anger. It's his plane, on his orders. He should have issued an immediate apology to the people of New York. Is this the leadership we are waiting for?
Where exactly is your evidence that it was "on his orders"?
I, for one, would like to think our President has better things to do than know where Air Force One is at every moment of the day. He appoints people to keep track of things like of that nature, and the appointed person got a reaming over the incident.
If he were sitting in the plane 'enjoying the view', then I'd be right there with you. Or maybe he should have had Marine One land on Wall St. with a big banner that said "Mission Accomplished" after the Dow got back over 8000 points.
I like how you try to throw in the "COMMUNITY ORGANIZER" like it's some ultra-derogatory term, kind of like how new-cons throw around "those libs". Especially since that part of your comment has absolutely nothing to do with anything, and the rest of your comment is just incorrect.
Looks like this was a pretty standard event where they update official photos of Air Force One flying near landmarks. State and local authorities were notified according to the White House.
Just some confusion but I can certainly see people being freaked out.
I'd wager that had the White House stated they were going to cancel all landmark photos because it might frighten people you'd be ranting that Obama's being intimidated by terrorists
Looks like this was a pretty standard event where they update official photos of Air Force One flying near landmarks. State and local authorities were notified according to the White House.
Just some confusion but I can certainly see people being freaked out.
I'd wager that had the White House stated they were going to cancel all landmark photos because it might frighten people you'd be ranting that Obama's being intimidated by terrorists
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I find it hard to believe either Obama or someone very close to him didn't know about this, as there are only 2 of these planes. Whenever he travels, both planes are in the air, so someone had to inform him or ask him about it to ensure he would not be traveling that day. It may have seemed like no big deal, "Hey Boss, we are going to be using Air Force One for a photo op and fly around NYC. Don't worry about it, the authorities know about it and it will be escorted the whole way."
To claim total ignorance to it is hard to believe. You have only 2 planes and you cant go anywhere this day. I'm sure due to the security reasons, with it being unavailable for an emergency that would require him to use the plane, someone, if not Obama was aware.
Bottom line it was extremely stupid on the governments part! What if someone was hurt, trampled or killed during the panic that was caused? Very Irresponsible!
Looks like this was a pretty standard event where they update official photos of Air Force One flying near landmarks. State and local authorities were notified according to the White House.
Just some confusion but I can certainly see people being freaked out.
I'd wager that had the White House stated they were going to cancel all landmark photos because it might frighten people you'd be ranting that Obama's being intimidated by terrorists
-spence
Standard event Happens all the time. 9/11 and this time
The Prez says he wasn't told of the engagement, no one believes that? It's all his fault? Like how many people work in the White House?
Give it a rest, it was Cheney's idea anyway.
The left blames Bush for every mistake made during his 8 years, from Abu Grahib, Gitmo, Iraq, Afghanistan to the Stock Exchange and the Housing crisis and even for 9/11 in some parts of the left. Obama is big enough to shoulder the blame for this. He left the idiot in charge of the plane.
It was stupid not to notify the city in advance. When you have people running out of buildings crying, you did something wrong. I don't think people outside NYC realize how much 9/11 effected them - so much more than any other city.
The City was notified problem was no one told the mayor.
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Saw this of the people freaking out as it flew over. Sounds like they scared em pretty good. Today, it's no big deal, but if it would have been a Bush mistake, people would be talking about lawsuits for mental trauma caused by his stupidity.
It was stupid not to notify the city in advance. When you have people running out of buildings crying, you did something wrong. I don't think people outside NYC realize how much 9/11 effected them - so much more than any other city.
You are so right PS. 9/11 affected everybody in the country, but unless you lived in the area there is know way of knowing how it really felt.
Like with the Oaklahoma bombing, i felt it deeply, especially with some children involved,
but know for sure i didn't really know how they felt being so far away.
Out of sight, out of mind, just part of human nature.
Now, please bear with me here as I'm not very smart. I understand that updated photos of Air Force One are paramount to our country getting out of this financial crisis and erradicating the swine flu, but did they have to do it in NYC? Again, I'm not too bright, but couldn't they just get a new photo of the airplane and photoshop the Statue of Liberty into it? I would think that the staff of the President of the United States would have decent enough technology available to make a nice photo of his plane without having to fly it over the city that has suffered the worst domestic terrorist attack ever at the hands of men who used planes as weapons.
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Is it true the city was notified and the higher-ups were not notified?
either way, not a wise decision..
Bryan
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"For once I agree with Spence. UGH. I just hope I don't get the urge to go start buying armani suits to wear in my shop"
Well since you guys like to bring Bush into everything, if he had done it you would think it was felony stupid.
So let me understand this, Obama didn't know anything about it and neither did his Homland Security Sec.. Right, someone just took the plane for some campaign photo ops. and know one knows who or why.
The only thing more stupid, would be believing they didn't know.
Well since you guys like to bring Bush into everything, if he had done it you would think it was felony stupid.
So let me understand this, Obama didn't know anything about it and neither did his Homland Security Sec.. Right, someone just took the plane for some campaign photo ops. and know one knows who or why.
The only thing more stupid, would be believing they didn't know.
buckman, you'll like this...
For starters, it wasn't a campaign photo op. It was "standard procedure" as the government has done for quite sometime. I truly don't believe Obama knew a thing about it. As even you have said, the President should only be focused on important issues.
However, it pisses me off. Why in the hell are my tax dollars being put to work to "update photos of Air Force One flying over landmarks"? We have a g-damn economic crisis going on, but it's ok to dump a few hundred thousand dollars so Air Force One can buzz the Empire State Building??
It's bad enough 200 staff, 6 military cargo aircraft, Marine One, a portable Presidential sh!tter and who knows what else travels everywhere the President goes. Now we're wasting extra money for a photo op?
I want to see the video of everyone in Idaho running scared to death over this. This comment is silly..
and your continuing to try to blame the Pres. for the flight is stupid as if he ordered and/or is involved in every detail of what goes on w/the administration. We just had a Pres. where people were told to keep the briefings short and that people should keep papers they were going to give him to under one page b/c he didn't need to know every detail.
It just shows what a complete fraud Obama and his minions are.
"Change" my A$$.
That money could have saved a few teacher positions, but what the hell.
Happens all the time. 9/11 and this time
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