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Old 06-23-2018, 08:58 AM   #31
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And yet he was only the second president to balance the budget
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Congress is in charge of the budget.

My point in citing Presidents who had opposing views yet thought (in my opinion) that they were doing the best for all of the people, is that without an agreed upon standard, "best" is subjective. The only official political standard of what is best, that should apply to all politicians, is preserving, protecting, and defending the U.S. Constitution. All other "bests" are matters of opinion.
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Some might say that Character was assumed, but that does explain the last election.
Since Character was not on the list it was not accounted for, by either party.
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I didn’t read all ththe pst posts but what I think is needed to make a great president is to take the reigns and put aside EVERYTHING to do what is best for all people of this country and not pander to one party over another. It’s pretty obvious none of that is going on now
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For a terribly brief time after being dragged there by Congress.

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Congress is in charge of the budget.
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Old 06-23-2018, 09:13 AM   #33
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Congress is in charge of the budget.

My point in citing Presidents who had opposing views yet thought (in my opinion) that they were doing the best for all of the people, is that without an agreed upon standard, "best" is subjective. The only official political standard of what is best, that should apply to all politicians, is preserving, protecting, and defending the U.S. Constitution. All other "bests" are matters of opinion.
Duh, yeah, but the president with control can certainly blow up the budget and we have yet to see what each years submission is going to include, but I'm guessing balancing the budget isn't in the cards during this administration.
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Old 06-23-2018, 09:14 AM   #34
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What trump is doing is creating a circus to distract us from the fact that they are dismantling the government piece by piece and taking away protections set in place for the environment. To prove this, look no further than melanoma’s jacket stunt yesterday. “I don’t care, do you?” It’s all a circus created to cause a smoke screen.
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Old 06-23-2018, 09:18 AM   #35
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Too much kool-aid

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I think you are confused about what the phrase means.
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No, no, no. we’re 30… 30, three zero.
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Old 06-23-2018, 09:21 AM   #36
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And according to the tally that actually matters, he clobbered her. .
Clobbered her by less than almost all other candidates clobbered there opponents. I guess if that makes you feel better...
If 0.6% of the vote in Florida and 0.35 % of the vote in pa flipped, she wins.
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No, no, no. we’re 30… 30, three zero.
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Old 06-23-2018, 10:08 AM   #37
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Duh, yeah, but the president with control can certainly blow up the budget

Duh, no, the President does not have the power to force congress to spend money or balance a budget. He may propose a budget, or veto one, but it is entirely up to Congress to spend the money. And no, Bill Clinton did not balance the budget: https://www.cato.org/publications/co...balance-budget

and we have yet to see what each years submission is going to include, but I'm guessing balancing the budget isn't in the cards during this administration.
There have been few budgets to balance since the Gingrich one. It's been mostly continuing resolutions. In any case, the national debt, a far more important metric, has continuously risen, even when Gingrich's Congress balanced the budget. And it will continue to rise under Trump. The last Presidential administration to lower the debt was Calvin Coolidge's
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Clobbered her by less than almost all other candidates clobbered there opponents. I guess if that makes you feel better...
If 0.6% of the vote in Florida and 0.35 % of the vote in pa flipped, she wins.
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This is where people opine "Only if she went to Wisconsin"

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Old 06-23-2018, 04:54 PM   #39
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Clobbered her by less than almost all other candidates clobbered there opponents. I guess if that makes you feel better...
If 0.6% of the vote in Florida and 0.35 % of the vote in pa flipped, she wins.
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It. Wasn’t. Close.

“If” my aunt had wheels she’d be a tea cart.

And yes it does make me feel better.
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It. Wasn’t. Close.
But if it was, how would that make you feel?
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But if it was, how would that make you feel?
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like retreating to a safe space?......
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like retreating to a safe space?......
So now you’re resorting to fictional characters and magical trolls. Fitting.
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Old 06-23-2018, 07:35 PM   #43
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I’d feel just as good. But it wasn’t.
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Old 06-23-2018, 09:18 PM   #44
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I’d feel just as good. But it wasn’t.
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I'm sorry boys and girls. I voted for a guy that had a plan not for someone that wanted to plant there plump ass in a chair and smile doing nothing.
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I'm sorry boys and girls. I voted for a guy that had a plan not for someone that wanted to plant there plump ass in a chair and smile doing nothing.
Sorry your candidate didn't win the primary.
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No, no, no. we’re 30… 30, three zero.
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Old 06-26-2018, 08:03 AM   #47
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Since this thread is a train wreck anyways
"Somehow, some day, people - especially trump's base - will come to realize trump has NO interest at all in America - not the slightest hint of an interest. He is old, used up and in his dotage so he couldn't care less about anything other than having his ego stroked. That's why he goes to his rallies - his pity parties - to have a crowd cheer him. He doesn't care about the effect of his policies on the country. He cares that they stir dissension and more applause for him from his base. When someone dares to disagree, he tears into them with a vengeance to encourage his base to erupt.

Trump is what he's always been - a lying, hypocritical, bigoted fraud. He successfully dodged the draft but excuses himself by saying he worked hard to build "beautiful buildings" and create thousands of jobs. In fact what he did was trick and cheat banks, contractors and others who trusted him - including his wives. When the banks or contractors refused to cave to his determination to change the contract, he took bankruptcy - six times.

His only goal - if he really has one - is to grab what he can for his kids and cronies. He knows he'll stroke out soon and is not the least concerned about a legacy beyond the idea he got great tv ratings. For those who disagree, remember how he has said he thinks of you - stupid. So stupid he could shoot you in the street and no one would notice. So stupid he can tell you he'll have Mexico build his wall and you believed it. So stupid he can tell you how he's going to have health care for all and you believed it. Then the infrastructure and get us out of the mideast and stop mass murder by assault rifle. He's a lying con man with a base of gullible fools"
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Hey don't forget the impact that the trade war is and will be having on those who voted for him, they are in fact stupid if they think the little tax break they got is going to offset what they will pay in jobs and the cost of goods if the trade war continues. Hope they aren't planning on building a new home, the cost of their lumber just went through the roof.
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Hey don't forget the impact that the trade war is and will be having on those who voted for him, they are in fact stupid if they think the little tax break they got is going to offset what they will pay in jobs and the cost of goods if the trade war continues. Hope they aren't planning on building a new home, the cost of their lumber just went through the roof.
Layoffs are already happening.

Now the trade war is America vs America

Trump threatens Harley-Davidson with taxes ‘like never before’ and predicts its eventual collapse

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Imagine if President Obama threatened a company like Pres. Trump does. John would have to turn on that server in his basement just for the activity in that thread.
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Layoffs are already happening.

Now the trade war is America vs America

Trump threatens Harley-Davidson with taxes ‘like never before’ and predicts its eventual collapse

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...=.1af657fc61c6
When someone dares to disagree, he tears into them with a vengeance to encourage his base to erupt.

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When someone dares to disagree, he tears into them with a vengeance to encourage his base to erupt.
It's a cult addicted to the adrenaline rush. He can tear into friends and even Americans and they simply don't care...it's going to continue to get worse as the investigations start exposing the truth and Trump has to get even more extreme (if that's possible) in an attempt to distract and rally the troops.
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It's a cult addicted to the adrenaline rush. He can tear into friends and even Americans and they simply don't care...it's going to continue to get worse as the investigations start exposing the truth and Trump has to get even more extreme (if that's possible) in an attempt to distract and rally the troops.
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It's a cult addicted to the adrenaline rush.
I know right...

"Peter Fonda called for pedophiles to rape Trump's 12-year-old son.

Democratic congresswoman Maxine Waters called for mob violence against conservatives and Republicans wherever they are seen in public.

Kathy Griffin symbolically performed a bloody beheading of Trump.

Snoop Dogg symbolically shot Trump in the head.

Madonna expressed her desire to blow up the White House.

Deranged Democrat Laurence Key vowed to kill Republican Brian Mast's kids over our immigration policy.
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I know right...

"Peter Fonda called for pedophiles to rape Trump's 12-year-old son.

Democratic congresswoman Maxine Waters called for mob violence against conservatives and Republicans wherever they are seen in public.

Kathy Griffin symbolically performed a bloody beheading of Trump.

Snoop Dogg symbolically shot Trump in the head.

Madonna expressed her desire to blow up the White House.

Deranged Democrat Laurence Key vowed to kill Republican Brian Mast's kids over our immigration policy.
Context


or Intent


or Protest


or....or....or.....C'mon, there's gotta be some reason why this is OK.

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or....or....or.....C'mon, there's gotta be some reason why this is OK.
Funny thing is I pay a lot of attention to politics and haven't heard of a single one of those events in the media. That being said, just being crude is a far cry from actually showing bigotry to those who are under your sphere of control.

You guys keep arguing pennies and hundred dollar bills are the same thing because they're both money...
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Funny thing is I pay a lot of attention to politics and haven't heard of a single one of those events in the media. That being said, just being crude is a far cry from actually showing bigotry to those who are under your sphere of control.

You guys keep arguing pennies and hundred dollar bills are the same thing because they're both money...
you are out of your mind
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He pays attention to half of politics.
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