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02-22-2022, 06:30 AM
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Originally Posted by Pete F.
Russia continues to occupy Ukraine
Trump was Putin's fan and beneficiary. Putin was never our good friend.
Words matter. It's a Putin crisis, not a Ukraine crisis. There are no separatists; they are Russian occupation forces. There is no Russian president; there is a dictator with nukes who wants the world to dance to his tune. Words matter, but they have never stopped a dictator.
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again, what does it mean that Putin didnt do this during Trump’s 4 years, and he started moving his pieces so early into the Biden administration?
isn’t it fair to say that Putin senses a weakness now, that he didn’t think was there before?
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02-22-2022, 06:34 AM
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#182
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Robert Gates, Obama’s secretary of defense:
“Biden has been wrong on just about every foreign policy and national security issue, over the last four decades.”
Even before he had dementia, he couldn’t get these things right.
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02-22-2022, 07:17 AM
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#183
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Stiff sanctions should have been put in place weeks ago, it’s way past the point diplomacy will work, it’s just a matter of time now.
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02-22-2022, 07:38 AM
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#184
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Originally Posted by Jim in CT
“Biden has been wrong on just about every foreign policy and national security issue, over the last four decades.”
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and still going strong....hey, how about kamala?...yikes......  ...maybe send hillary with the reset button again.... |
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02-22-2022, 07:53 AM
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#185
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Trump withholding support for Ukraine in his lame attempt to get dirt on Biden and his outstanding job at dividing Americans and weakening NATO was a gift to Putin, leaving him this military option as his only way to take back Ukraine before they can join nato.
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02-22-2022, 07:55 AM
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#186
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Got Stripers
Trump withholding support for Ukraine in his lame attempt to get dirt on Biden and his outstanding job at dividing Americans and weakening NATO was a gift to Putin, leaving him this military option as his only way to take back Ukraine before they can join nato.
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time to stop blaming trump ...brandon is effing everything up now... |
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02-22-2022, 08:05 AM
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#187
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Originally Posted by scottw
time to stop blaming trump ...brandon is effing everything up now...
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Trump helped Putin and harmed Ukraine and like everything else he touched left it to the next administration to clean up, but I agree Biden should have pulled the trigger on stiff sanctions as soon as it became apparent what was coming. |
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02-22-2022, 08:18 AM
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#188
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Well if this administration doesn’t see these Peacekeepers as an invasion and they do not sanction russia. They should have been imposed after Putin’s press conference!
Even if the EU or other nation choose not to . They are morons and the term weak won’t begin in describing Bidens Actions
I would suggest the term cowardly…. he huffed he puffed and he blew nothing down !
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02-22-2022, 08:27 AM
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#189
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Originally Posted by wdmso
the term weak won’t begin in describing Bidens Actions
I would suggest the term cowardly…. he huffed he puffed and he blew nothing down !
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he probably forgot.... |
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02-22-2022, 08:47 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Got Stripers
Trump ........ and his outstanding job at dividing Americans
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Trump didn't divide Americans, Americans divided Americans. All he was, was a catalyst that brought people's ugliness to the surface (both sides). People are responsible for their own actions on how they treated people, not the Orange Man. |
"If you're arguing with an idiot, make sure he isn't doing the same thing."
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02-22-2022, 09:06 AM
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#191
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Originally Posted by The Dad Fisherman
Trump didn't divide Americans, Americans divided Americans. All he was, was a catalyst that brought people's ugliness to the surface (both sides). People are responsible for their own actions on how they treated people, not the Orange Man.
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And he didn't weaken Ukraine by "withholding" support. Ukraine got the support, and more than Obama gave. No wonder they keep getting it wrong, they keep believing their own lies. |
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02-22-2022, 09:27 AM
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#192
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Quote:
Originally Posted by The Dad Fisherman
Trump didn't divide Americans, Americans divided Americans. All he was, was a catalyst that brought people's ugliness to the surface (both sides). People are responsible for their own actions on how they treated people, not the Orange Man.
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That common sense argument, spits in the face of liberalism, which is largely based on the idea that nothing that anyone does, is their own fault. Everything is someone else's fault. That's liberalism. |
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02-22-2022, 01:15 PM
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Tell us about the 8 senators, all GOP, that went to Moscow on July 4, 2018
Be specific, what were they all doing there?
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02-22-2022, 01:20 PM
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Remember the great days, when Putin was frightened by Donald Trump. Terrifying for Russia to have a POTUS who stood there like a whipped puppy and denigrated his own intelligence services, kissed Putin's ass, and tried to blackmail Ukraine. Amazing Putin lived through it.
Trump was owned by Russia, protected by Republicans.
Traitor to America
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02-22-2022, 01:53 PM
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#195
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Quote:
Originally Posted by detbuch
And he didn't weaken Ukraine by "withholding" support. Ukraine got the support, and more than Obama gave. No wonder they keep getting it wrong, they keep believing their own lies.
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Again another captain obvious, I'm well aware Trump eventually released what CONGRESS approved, even though he had no right to hold it up for his little political Rudy driven craziness about getting Ukraine to help dig up dirt, but by holding it up he was given Putin a good laugh that his browmance with Trump might bear fruit. |
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02-22-2022, 02:48 PM
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#196
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Got Stripers
his browmance with Trump
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he admired his eyebrows? |
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02-22-2022, 03:16 PM
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It's February 22nd in Donbas. Putin launched the escalation of his invasion on the eight-year anniversary of the end of EuroMaidan, Ukraine's revolution of Dignity, the popular uprising that ousted his puppet, first brought to power by Paul Manafort.
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02-22-2022, 03:26 PM
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Another Trump/Putin tankie
Russia's state TV is proudly showing off Mike Pompeo's recent commentary, where he said about Putin: “Very shrewd. Very capable. I have enormous respect for him."
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02-22-2022, 03:53 PM
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#199
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Pete F.
Another Trump/Putin tankie
Russia's state TV is proudly showing off Mike Pompeo's recent commentary, where he said about Putin: “Very shrewd. Very capable. I have enormous respect for him."
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and that, not perceived weakness of Biden, surely is what incentivized Putin to invade.
A lot going wrong for Pudding Brain.
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02-22-2022, 03:54 PM
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Of all the former secretaries of state under Democratic and Republican presidents, only one is taking to cable news and social media during a moment of peril in Europe to praise Russian President Vladimir Putin and chastise the Biden administration.
Welcome to the new GOP
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02-22-2022, 04:01 PM
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#201
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Quote:
Originally Posted by wdmso
Of all the former secretaries of state under Democratic and Republican presidents, only one is taking to cable news and social media during a moment of peril in Europe to praise Russian President Vladimir Putin and chastise the Biden administration.
Welcome to the new GOP
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yup. explains why he gop got creamed in VA and why they’re polling so low in generic ballots before the midterms.
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02-22-2022, 04:02 PM
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#202
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trump I know [Russian President] Vladimir Putin very well, and he would have never done during the Trump Administration what he is doing now, no way!
Not once does his criticize Putin actions
Only Biden
Another example of his and his administration Putin man crush
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02-22-2022, 05:09 PM
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#203
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Got Stripers
Again another captain obvious, I'm well aware Trump eventually released what CONGRESS approved, even though he had no right to hold it up for his little political Rudy driven craziness about getting Ukraine to help dig up dirt, but by holding it up he was given Putin a good laugh that his browmance with Trump might bear fruit.
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Now I understand . . . you didn't mean that Trump weakened Ukraine, but that he gave Putin a good laugh . . . maybe that's why Putin didn't invade Ukraine then, because he was having too good a time laughing. Maybe Biden should have given Putin a good laugh too, so he would 't invade Ukraine. |
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02-22-2022, 05:12 PM
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i’m old enough to remember when obama mocked romney for saying Russia was a serious threat, and ALL the liberals thought Obama was so witty and clever.
Remember? “Hey Mitt, the 1980s called, they want their foreign policy back.”
Ha ha ha, my stomach hurts from laughing.
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02-22-2022, 05:17 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Jim in CT
i’m old enough to remember when obama mocked romney for saying Russia was a serious threat, and ALL the liberals thought Obama was so witty and clever.
Remember? “Hey Mitt, the 1980s called, they want their foreign policy back.”
Ha ha ha, my stomach hurts from laughing.
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You Trumplicans have gone from supporting Confederate monuments to supporting rebuilding the Soviet empire. Its like you have a fetish for losers.
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Frasier: Niles, I’ve just had the most marvelous idea for a website! People will post their opinions, cheeky bon mots, and insights, and others will reply in kind!
Niles: You have met “people”, haven’t you?
Lets Go Darwin
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02-22-2022, 06:31 PM
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#206
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Pete F.
You Trumplicans have gone from supporting Confederate monuments to supporting rebuilding the Soviet empire. Its like you have a fetish for losers.
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i’ve long said statues to insurrectionist slave owners should
come down.
and i’m not pro ussr.
funny accusation coming from a socialist.
but again, you and wdmso seem to be off i. terms of what you claim the gop believes.
gotta go beat my wife and watch Hee Haw reruns.
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02-22-2022, 07:11 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Pete F.
You Trumplicans have gone from supporting Confederate monuments
Supporting American history is a loser?
to supporting rebuilding the Soviet empire .
Simply not true.
Its like you have a fetish for losers.
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Making America great again is a loser? |
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02-22-2022, 07:47 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by detbuch
Making America great again is a loser?
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America has never stopped being Great
Making America great again . Is just a slogan and a conservative ploy to promote grievance politics pushing division between citizens for votes suggesting other America’s are the true enemy .. of the nation
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02-22-2022, 07:54 PM
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#209
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Quote:
Originally Posted by wdmso
America has never stopped being Great
Making America great again .
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probably the best political slogan of all time...made leftists so mad they wanted to beat up people for wearing red hats..  |
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02-22-2022, 07:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Pete F.
to supporting rebuilding the Soviet empire.
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yeah weird, you'd think it would be AOC and Bernie supporting this... |
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