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Old 04-11-2007, 08:43 PM   #61
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halle.....

no because she's shaving her head for the part Jay...

she'll be completely bald.

8 sponsers have dropped the imus in the morning show...

he's basically all done....

i hope he starts his own show or retires....

i am going to boycot msnbc indefinately
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Old 04-11-2007, 10:25 PM   #62
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I made a deliberate effort to stay away from here until The Season started.

"Imus" needs to go to rehab.
His career is over.
Waaaaaah.
Same ch*t; different month.
Remember Kramer?
And he has to apologize to Al Sharpton?
Why?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tawana_Brawley

Back under my rock......
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Old 04-11-2007, 10:33 PM   #63
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Basturbed...
you use EVERY anti-asian term you can, but because of your heritage is it ok?
well, to be completely 100% sincere with you, there IS a difference between deliberately trolling for sport in an online forum vs. pointlessly insulting a group of young people who have done nothing to deserve such scorn. i don't know what imus had to gain by calling them "nappy headed ho's" in front of a national audience. honestly.

anyways, yes, i can get away with saying that "all those damn litterbug beach-pooping scup poacher gooks ought to be deported."

Partly b/c it's true.

But you can't, cuz I'll go tactical on you with my yerrow ar shalpton persona.

hmmm, you just gave me a great idea for a new handle...

p.s. i can't make fun of nips over at SOL anymore. Who does that leave?

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Old 04-11-2007, 11:18 PM   #64
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Your all full of crap.If it were Al Sharpton calling your daughter or wife a pasty white c____, the lynch mob would come out.What he said was wrong it was not a generic statement expressed in a comedy routine.It was a derogetory and inflammible remark directed at a specific group.And not all of black America listens to rap or thinks Al & Jesse are there leaders.And lets not forget that these 2 men have walked through streets in which white people spat and threw rocks at them in hate.
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Old 04-11-2007, 11:26 PM   #65
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So Imus got dumped fron MSNBC, but who the hell watches MSNBC anyway?

What a freakin' joke this whole thing is.

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Old 04-12-2007, 06:12 AM   #66
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well, to be completely 100% sincere with you, there IS a difference between deliberately trolling for sport in an online forum vs. pointlessly insulting a group of young people who have done nothing to deserve such scorn. i don't know what imus had to gain by calling them "nappy headed ho's" in front of a national audience. honestly.
Yea, my racism is better than your racism

I'll bet his %$%$%$%$ doesn't stink either.

What a hypocrite.

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Old 04-12-2007, 06:53 AM   #67
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there are none more deserving of a eugenics intervention than Spence's parents.

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Old 04-12-2007, 07:07 AM   #68
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So Imus got dumped fron MSNBC, but who the hell watches MSNBC anyway?

What a freakin' joke this whole thing is.
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if you watched Imus... on occasion .... you realize that he had some influence with
politicians or the political process anyway and many
listeners liked how he typically cut to the chase and either broiled
a candidate or endorsed him... like when he called hillary a fat pig
or saying she's phony or "just awful" ...

and when the vet hospital snafu happened his broadcast hastened the firing
of several military officials by bringing it more to the media's attention
....in other words he had some pull or sway with
America's voters ...enough so, that they (his enemies) were
chomping at the bit to find a way to get rid of him....

the nappy headed ho comment.... was their "ticket"
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Old 04-12-2007, 07:23 AM   #69
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This thing has gone way too far. Don's problem at this point is that somewhere along the line he developed some credibility. The rest of the jocks and comedians will continue to get away with their jokes, regardless of their race.
I really feel bad about this whole thing. Don truley is doing alot of good with these cancer kids and his critics so not seem to care. Don does care, this has got to be killing him. What ever happened to freedom of speech. Sharpton is advocating his own form of sensorship. This is a real scary thought.
Yes, he said something wrong. He does not deserve to be shot and hung.
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Old 04-12-2007, 07:36 AM   #70
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i don't know what imus had to gain by calling them "nappy headed ho's" in front of a national audience. honestly.
Publicity.... and he got a lot of it.
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Old 04-12-2007, 07:37 AM   #71
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Angry the freaking Pecking order

wait til he reaches the ... I'm mad stage......

and people wonder about crusification....

he maybe needed to retire.... but not like this
in shame.... or under these conditions...

he has a tremendous following and a very competent
crew..... i hope he still has the gumption to grab the bull
by the horns and sidestep the the whole system by
buying his own radio station
and says F - you (msnbc) people in style.
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Old 04-12-2007, 07:44 AM   #72
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it's hard for me to explain this, but i have the feeling many of you guys don't really understand racism until you've felt it directed at yourself.

i haven't really articulated this before, but my everyday experiences have been and are colored by both overt and subtle racism. as many of you know, i come from a family of hard-working, industrious, hard-drinking stubborn well-educated rice #^&#^&#^&#^&s. and no, I wasn't adopted.

let me spell it out for some of the perpetually indignant limp-wristed lily white new england limousine liberals browsing this forum (I can't mention Spence by name, can I?).

it is a fair thing to say, from a minority's perspective: a white man calling a mostly black female team a bunch of "ho's" has the appearance of being a racist comment even if no malice is intended.

a black man who does the same thing is NOT in my mind considered to be racist, whether you like it or not or think this is right or wrong. at worst that man is a boorish misogynist IMO. and i would venture to guess that most black people would agree with me on this.

i'm not accusing anyone here of being racist (and I could care less if you are) - but you just don't know what it's really like until you've had it dished out at you from caucasian people. it does change your perspective.

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Old 04-12-2007, 07:51 AM   #73
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Old 04-12-2007, 07:53 AM   #74
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I'll finally jump in, what the heck.

I watch him (past tense now) in the morning, having caffeine and waking up, before I have to face reality for the day.

Good side - having great guests on, calling it straight-on with alot of issues, charity with the "Ranch", being able to take alot of $%#*& from his staff and some of his guests.

Bad side - some times they all went too far, at least for me, Mayor Ray Negron from New Orleans - walking the line there, and maybe even worse than the Rutgers line, and then the Rutgers line.

The networks got coverage because of Imus, then they got advertisers, and money. They LET him say alot of $%#^, now the advertisers get antsy because of the stirring up, and the networks cut him off at the neck - "let's keep'em until the heat is too much, the advertising revenue is too great, when he really %^%$*'s up then we'll let him go".

As far as Sharpton, etc etc., they are making this into a cause for all of America. Good ole Jessie Jackson on CNBS this morning, "how many black announcers on TV?", come on Rev, stay on the issue, don't turn it into "let's change the world", lets fire Imus and all will be right with the world????, I don't think so.

Hey, the world is not perfect, sadly so, and neither are any of us. We all make mistakes, let the punishment fit the crime.
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Old 04-12-2007, 08:10 AM   #75
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I think I read somewhere today that the average gpa for the whole team is 3.0. And they have a no-nonsense coach in Vivian Stringer.
I only heard small parts of her talk, but most of the part I heard dealt no just Imus but all people (spec. rappers) who demonize others and use insulting words like nappy head and ho. She was very balanced unlike many people I have heard who some how try to minimize Imus' statement but focusing on either sharpton, etc. or rappers.
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Old 04-12-2007, 08:11 AM   #76
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Anyone with half a brain should see through Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton, who are milking this incident politically for all its worth.

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Old 04-12-2007, 08:44 AM   #77
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wait til he reaches the ... I'm mad stage......
I think that time is come. This morning Imus asked when Sharpton is apologizing.
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Old 04-12-2007, 08:45 AM   #78
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it is a fair thing to say, from a minority's perspective: a white man calling a mostly black female team a bunch of "ho's" has the appearance of being a racist comment even if no malice is intended.

a black man who does the same thing is NOT in my mind considered to be racist, whether you like it or not or think this is right or wrong. at worst that man is a boorish misogynist IMO.
Absurdity.

Your own use of asian slights pollutes a conversation regardless of your personal context to which most readers are not even aware.

Context certainly is important as racist remarks do fall on a spectrum, but the notion that you're exempt or that a black person is exempt in these circumstances is not only silly, it's wrong.

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Old 04-12-2007, 08:48 AM   #79
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Talking yeah but

how do you " really know " you weren't adopted...
(perhaps you have a real real good memory )

i think my mom had her egg invetrofertilized

aboard an Alien ship and my Dad just assumed

he was the father .....
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Anyone with half a brain should see through Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton, who are milking this incident politically for all its worth.
I only have 1/4 a brain and can see that.
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Old 04-12-2007, 08:57 AM   #81
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I think that time is come. This morning Imus asked when Sharpton is apologizing.
i'm waiting for A UPS truck to bring me a new satelite reciever today
for my direct TV connection.... otherwise i would have watched that.

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Old 04-12-2007, 08:57 AM   #82
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Eben, 1/4 of a brain...
Thats because of too much







I could give a rat's ass what Imus, or chappelle or anyone says.
What pisses me off is Sharpton and jackson coming full bore on this, and not apologizing for verbally lynching the Duke lacrosse players w/ NO EVIDENCE.. simply race, and they were on it like flies on %$%$%$%$.

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What pisses me off is Sharpton and jackson coming full bore on this, and not apologizing for verbally lynching the Duke lacrosse players w/ NO EVIDENCE.. simply race, and they were on it like flies on %$%$%$%$.
Too bad that didn't break a week ago...Imus would still have his sponsors

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Old 04-12-2007, 09:02 AM   #84
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spence,

you can wring your paws all you want about racism ... but as far as i'm concerned you're just another shallow #^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^& that doesn't get it.

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be prepared to see Imus' buffalo wing hot sauce on sale this week at stop and shop..
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you can wring your paws all you want about racism ... but as far as i'm concerned you're just another shallow #^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^& that doesn't get it.
You're free to your own opinion, even if it is wrong.

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Isn't Rosie (Basketball Head) O'Donnell a little late interjecting her under-informed, hypocritical opinion on the Imus issue?
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Old 04-12-2007, 09:48 AM   #90
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What comes out of the Imus affair is that conduct that tends to polarize race relations has to be punished strongly. It would therefore seem to me that NC Atty General's office should strongly go after the DA and any other officials in the Duke lacrosse case where it appears that a prosecution was brought to in large part advance the political ambitions of the DA. The family of each student should sue the same individuals (although they may be depleted of funds and the student want to get on with their lives) and I think there may even be grounds for the Federal Government to bring an action.
This travesty did significant damage to race relations and now that we have set a benchmark lets prosecute!
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