Marijuana Decriminalization Bill - Striper Talk Striped Bass Fishing, Surfcasting, Boating

Joe · 07-31-2008, 01:26 PM

Good idea?
Seems to me - even though in the words of David Byrne, "I have tried marijuana, I get nervous every time."
The Dutch seem to be doing pretty well not spending money sending people to jail for drugs. We've got the largest percentage of people in prison in the western world.

reelecstasy · 07-31-2008, 01:30 PM

"Legalize it, and I will advertise it...."
~Peter Tosh

Honestly, there are far more serious pressing issues that the money used to bust people smoking pot could be used for IMHO.

Nebe · 07-31-2008, 01:32 PM

Im all for it.

alcohol is far more destructive than herb..

zacs · 07-31-2008, 01:38 PM

makes sense to me.

fishbones · 07-31-2008, 02:05 PM

A fine for possessing small amounts would save a lot of taxpayers dollars. There is way too much time and money spent prosecuting pot cases in court. I do feel that if someone is caught with a large amoount, they should be prosecuted for intent to distribute.

Joe · 07-31-2008, 02:23 PM

With the "three stikes" law - it's possible to go to jail for the rest of your life over a bag of pot.
Police and DEA agents working on drug investigations cost becoup - particularly with their retirement packages. Same thing with the Coast Guard - a tremendous amount of money and resources.
Is this cycle of long imprisonment and costly enforcement realistically sustainable? Has it even made a difference?

EarnedStripes44 · 07-31-2008, 02:36 PM

Slingah · 07-31-2008, 04:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Nebe

Im all for it.

alcohol is far more destructive than herb..

I'll second that...does not make sense to me that booze can be legal and pot not...
at the least decriminialize it...

Raven · 07-31-2008, 04:32 PM

The Fact that it is illegal is what makes
it profitable ..... and worth 10 - 20 times
it's real value...

Look what happened during alcohol prohibition

it was a mistake when Richard Nixon
started the counter culture WAR
and it's been costing the tax payer ever since.

basswipe · 07-31-2008, 04:57 PM

Yes.Legalize it.

Partnership for a drug free America,our government and the cops need to get their priorities in order.They focus almost exclusively on weed when it comes to talking to America's youth about drugs.Guess they forgot about crack,meth and smack...you know those highly addictive drugs that actually kill people and ruin families.

Weed really does have medicinal purposes both physical and mental.

The most dangerous thing about weed is its illegality.Its illegality promotes curiosity and that leads to use which means it has to be done behind closed doors with other illegal things.At some point in time the person smoking illegal weed will more than likely encounter someone doing illegal dope like crack etc....."try this."The only thing that makes weed a "gateway" drug is that the stupid laws governing weed has put it in the same category as crack,heroin,meth etc.

Btw I don't smoke pot.I'm just using common sense.

basswipe · 07-31-2008, 05:06 PM

And before someone brings up alcohol as being legal lets not forget billions of $$$ is spent advertizing drinking alcohol as being "fun".Billions spent.

Clammer · 07-31-2008, 05:23 PM

legalize it >>>>>....need a price drop ><><

afterhours · 07-31-2008, 06:42 PM

[QUOTE=Karl F/2463[/url]

seen guys have one martini and think they are King freaking Kong...wanna fight the world...yet.. if they'd been puffin, alll they woulda wanted is a cheeseburger... and a nap...

good one..

hulkyj61 · 07-31-2008, 06:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Karl F

seen guys have one martini and think they are King freaking Kong...wanna fight the world...yet.. if they'd been puffin, alll they woulda wanted is a cheeseburger... and a nap...

Ben and Jerrys and a nap.

But seriously, the only thing i would worry about is people driving. Similar to alcohol it makes you less aware and less reactive, therefore causing accidents on the road. Since some people are just dumb and not stoned it may be tough for a cop to tell if theyre stoned or just plain dumb sometimes

Raven · 07-31-2008, 06:53 PM

are the prescription drugs...

the abuse has risen 700%

and yet the Doctor's keep prescribing
all this crap that makes people commit suicide
or they die from an over dose...
especially when combined with BOOZE

and that stuff is all legal

ridiculous as hell

niko · 07-31-2008, 07:09 PM

it will never be legal. too many nonsmokers making the rules. they just don't get it and never will

MotoXcowboy · 07-31-2008, 08:01 PM

im all for it.. booze (especially to much) is bad news..you end up in fights, doing dumb s#$%^, and regretting things the day after. with smoke you just chill out, relax, and enjoy what you are into doing.

the price of govt regulation, policing, prisons. all could be spent on better more important issues. i agree its not a gateway to harder drugs. never was for me at least.. cigs and booze was 1st things i did when i was young, still smokin cigs and got alot of incidents w/ alcohol i wish never happend. weed on the other hand..cant say its personally hurt me really. well wait there was that one time with the police....

oh yeah my uncle just scored a license to smoke..(100% disabled) i gotta say i am f$%^&*$ jealous. hopefully w/ people starting to have licenses to smoke it will work (hopefully) and help other people (polititans) realize its not that bad.

protty31 · 07-31-2008, 09:02 PM

I definately say make it legal.The problem is that it can be
very dangerous if the quality is too high (pun intended) for
someone who doesn't smoke often.There is stuff out there
that will knock even the most experienced on thier arse

stiff tip · 08-01-2008, 04:50 AM

thats right your all wrong. how many peaple have been killed by a stoned driver . or beat his girl friend up high on pot.. 0 its a joke ...tax it and sell it like booze... revise woodstock .problem is to many anti smokers....

Brian L · 08-01-2008, 05:29 AM

Backbeach and I have an ongoing debate about this. Surprised he hasn't dropped in the first salvo... :^)

I'm for decriminalization all the way. Dozens of legal things more dangerous than smoke. I don't even smoke. (Anymore)

Probably wouldn't start either if it was legal, though I'd indulge in an occasional cookie.

How many violent crimes, suicides, etc.. related to it every year? Damn near none as far as I know. I'd much rather deal with someone on smoke than half in the bag drinking, though I doubt alchohol abuse would decrease if Marijuana was legal.

The Dad Fisherman · 08-01-2008, 07:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by protty31

There is stuff out there
that will knock even the most experienced on thier arse

But even that Worst Case scenario just means they'll find you asleep on the Couch in your underwear with Bright Orange Finger Tips hugging a half empty 2 liter bottle of Coke.

reelecstasy · 08-01-2008, 07:53 AM

Also, I think another reason that hinders its legalization is that it would be almost impossible to control. It is easily grown, in sand, mud, soil, hell rocks and never mind hydro

I also do not understand how alcohol can be legal and pot not. I have the "pleasure" of slinging drinks and I gotta say, booze turns 50% of the people into instant A-hole.
I know I would much rather be passing a bong at a hash bar than giving 21yr olds a few drinks w/shots=bad news.

fishbones · 08-01-2008, 08:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by reelecstasy

I also do not understand how alcohol can be legal and pot not. I have the "pleasure" of slinging drinks and I gotta say, booze turns 50% of the people into instant A-hole.
I know I would much rather be passing a bong at a hash bar than giving 21yr olds a few drinks w/shots=bad news.

The answer to why alcohol is legal and pot isn't is simple. Money. Big companies produce, market and sell alcohol. Pot is grown in second and third world countries and sold by some guy with dirty hair standing on the corner playing hacky sack. If Big Business, Inc. could find a way to get rich monopolizing the sale of weed, it probably would become legal. Then it would be reulated and the small time dealers would be stuck selling Phish bootlegs and magic mushrooms.

Flaptail · 08-01-2008, 08:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nebe

Im all for it.

alcohol is far more destructive than herb..

Absolutely and when and if it ever happens I will be seriously investing in Twinkie futures at Hostess Foods.

chasing down pot smokers and prosecuiting them is a waste of valuable time and resources for law enforcement.

Just look at your local court reports in the papers. Pot arrest, six months without a finding, 50.00 bucks court fees, no record.

Drunk driving 1st offense, 45 day license suspension, Alchohol counseling ( which you pay for 1000.00) 400.00 +/- court fees, record.

We have better things to worry about. Crack, unregistered guns on the street, Republicans.

ProfessorM · 08-01-2008, 07:40 PM

Start investing in cheetos and dorritos now

Fishpart · 08-01-2008, 07:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Raven

The Fact that it is illegal is what makes
it profitable ..... and worth 10 - 20 times
it's real value...

Look what happened during alcohol prohibition

it was a mistake when Richard Nixon
started the counter culture WAR
and it's been costing the tax payer ever since.

Saw an interesting show several years ago and the Nixon War on Drugs was a result of our great nation sending boys to Vietnam and having them come home hopelessly hooked on drugs, including heroin and opium. Weed got caught in the net, right or wrong, who knows, but with it being illegal now it serves as a gateway to other substances like Basswipe described...

striperman36 · 08-01-2008, 08:00 PM

I think the dorito's with mild salsa is the best munchie resolver.

protty31 · 08-01-2008, 08:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Dad Fisherman

But even that Worst Case scenario just means they'll find you asleep on the Couch in your underwear with Bright Orange Finger Tips hugging a half empty 2 liter bottle of Coke.

Did this happen TDF?

striperman36 · 08-01-2008, 08:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Slingah

I'll second that...does not make sense to me that booze can be legal and pot not...
at the least decriminialize it...

Its legal like tobacco is legal because of political graft

NIB · 08-01-2008, 08:21 PM

I was gonna post something but I forgot..
Dave's not here Man...
I remember when i was a kid..I thought Our Country would be so cool cause it would be my generation there to run it...
What the Hell happened..The dweeb I usta shoot spitballs at in the 5th grade is running the country..
They could pack it like cigarettes,sell it in liquor stores an tax the hell out of it.When U remove the money spent on all forms of enforcement and add the new revenue.I you would be talking about some large figures..
Here's what it comes down to..
Pot Smokers don't vote..
Right wing southern belt religious fanatics vote.How the hell else do u get George Bush for 2 tours..
Pipe Dreams..