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View Poll Results: Should this kid have been TASERED
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No way,he deserved it
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Those cops were unjustified
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09-18-2007, 11:31 AM
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Old Guy
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09-18-2007, 11:36 AM
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Boston Anglah
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excessive force, wtf...5 cops on him and then they do that. OMG, sure hopes he sues..that was disturbing  |
Used hard and put away dirty....
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09-18-2007, 11:44 AM
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Permanently Disconnected
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This is a raw video after they tasered him. The kid is kinda whacked out but WTF they tried to say he was INCITING A RIOT? It's on film so there's no disputing it now. NO way that kid was inciting a riot.
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09-18-2007, 11:50 AM
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Registered User
Join Date: Jul 2007
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I would not have tazed him. But they were justified to do so, he was actively resisting. the second you pull your arm away you are actively resisting, but I do think they could have handled him with out the tazer
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Beer is proof that God loves us and wants us to be happy
"The cure for everything is salt water - sweat, tears, or the sea" Isak Dinesen
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09-18-2007, 11:56 AM
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No offense to the officers, but they almost seemed to be acting like glorified "G-Men" (or hyper security guards).
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09-18-2007, 12:14 PM
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Registered User
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Location: Plymouth, Ma
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Back in the day it would have been a simple billy club to the head.
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The beatings will continue until morale improves
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09-18-2007, 12:16 PM
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Registered User
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Quote:
Originally Posted by stripersnipr
Back in the day it would have been a simple billy club to the head.
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I would rather be tazed than hit in the head with a billy club |
Beer is proof that God loves us and wants us to be happy
"The cure for everything is salt water - sweat, tears, or the sea" Isak Dinesen
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09-18-2007, 03:13 PM
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Registered User
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what ever happened to freedom of speech? those cops should be fired and then tazered
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09-18-2007, 03:29 PM
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cops that are well trained would know the techniques that are needed to place handcuffs on the subject. I can't believe it, that five ccps can't place the handcuffs on his wrist. These were campus cops? well that explains it.
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09-18-2007, 03:31 PM
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I counted 7 cops total.
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09-18-2007, 03:38 PM
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Registered User
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Quote:
Originally Posted by pal156
what ever happened to freedom of speech? those cops should be fired and then tazered
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Freedom of speech gives no one the right to enter a public building refusing to follow the rules of the forum, refusing to follow the orders of police and to be a general, obnoxious PITA. I dont know the degree of resistance he put forth so I dont know if the Tazering was justifed but in this case (and in most) I give the cops the benefit of the doubt. |
The beatings will continue until morale improves
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09-18-2007, 03:40 PM
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http://www.local10.com/news/14138122...s=mia&psp=news
I think they profiled him. If you read this article then you can understand why I say this. That's probably why they were standing around the microphone before he started speaking. Kids not an angel but I don't think he deserved to be arrested or tased.
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09-18-2007, 04:25 PM
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BigFish Bait Co.
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His 1st amendment rights were violated.....that kid can sit back for life on the settlement he is gonna get! Can you say Gloria Allred??? All he did was ask a question and Kerry seemed to have no problem with it...he was gonna answer it!
What, if anything, did Kerry have to say about the incident???
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Almost time to get our fish on!!! 
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09-18-2007, 04:52 PM
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Registered User
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The police in that instance initiated the confrontation, then escalated it. I think that they wanted to try out their new tazor. They simply had to let him finish his rant, and escort him out. End of story. Now they're gonna get sued and lose. Idiots.
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He that would make his own liberty secure, must guard even his enemy from oppression; for if he violates this duty, he establishes a precedent that will reach to himself.
Thomas Paine
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09-18-2007, 05:06 PM
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Red Eye Jedi
Join Date: Jan 2004
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You wouldn't believe the %$%$%$%$ that cops get away with. trust me on this one.
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09-18-2007, 05:17 PM
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Absolutely uncalled for! it was kinda funny though.. perhaps I'm just sick like that  , maybe because it wasn't me getting tasered. |
60 % of the time, it works every time.
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09-18-2007, 05:24 PM
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jducketts they were laughing about it on WZLX this morning, playing the ow ow ow ow thing over and over. It does kinda make you laugh when you hear it like that but it's not really funny if you were this kid.
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09-18-2007, 05:28 PM
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Kerry, D-Mass., said Tuesday he regretted that a healthy discussion was interrupted, and said he never had a dialogue end that way in 37 years of public appearances. "Whatever happened, the police had a reason, had made their decision that there was something they needed to do. Then it's a law enforcement issue, not mine," he told The Associated Press in Washington.
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Originally Posted by BigFish
His 1st amendment rights were violated.....that kid can sit back for life on the settlement he is gonna get! Can you say Gloria Allred??? All he did was ask a question and Kerry seemed to have no problem with it...he was gonna answer it!
What, if anything, did Kerry have to say about the incident???
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09-18-2007, 06:12 PM
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Registered User
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What a shock, another cop bashing thread. I wonder what some of your experience with the police has been. You all think it's easy. Carry on and continue to sh!t on us.
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"Love is like a snowmobile racing across the tundra then suddenly it flips over, pinning you underneath. At night, the ice weasels come."
Matt Groening, Life In Hell
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09-18-2007, 06:17 PM
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UNCLE MATT I didn't start this thread to %$%$%$%$ on cops. I thought what these guys did was totally out of line. What's YOUR take on what happened from a law enforcement view. I'd be very interested in hearing your views on what happened here...after you watch the videos.
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09-18-2007, 06:43 PM
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BigFish Bait Co.
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Uncle Matt....being a cop I thought you might have thicker skin for this type of discussion. I think that was way over the top! How bout all them LA Cop incidents......none of them were over the top??? All on video! I don't envy a Police Officer his job at all.....it has to be a tough job....naturally I cannot imagine as I have never been one. However, all the guy was doing was asking a question which....first of all he is allowed under the Constitution! Second he is allowed under the type of forum they were using.....so.....what did he do wrong?? Anyone???
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Almost time to get our fish on!!!
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09-18-2007, 06:49 PM
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Red Eye Jedi
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Uncle Matt
What a shock, another cop bashing thread. I wonder what some of your experience with the police has been. You all think it's easy. Carry on and continue to sh!t on us.
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IMO, most cops deserve the reputation they have.....
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09-18-2007, 06:51 PM
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Red Eye Jedi
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if it wasn't on camera, i'm sure they would've charged him A+B to cover themselves
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09-18-2007, 07:11 PM
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Registered User
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There are way to many things wrong with this scenario. He didn't ask a simple question, he had pages of notes in his hand. He refused to give the microphone up when asked, even when it was turned off. The cops (7?) were already near him when he got to the microphone. They took him out through the middle of the crowd. They stopped inside the room to handcuff and zap him in front of the cameras and crowd. If he was really zapped it shouda left him very docile and quiet man as he recovered, not a screaming idiot. As the article pointed out he was a different person off camera.
I would have zapped him first to shut him up, sounded like a tree hugging seal lover to me.
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09-18-2007, 08:26 PM
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Mosholu
Join Date: Feb 2007
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The cops could have handled the situation with a little more finesse but the guy is an %$%$%$%$%$%$%$. The sad part is that every politician who speaks at some public fourm has to run the risk of some butthead who wants his 15 minutes or worse. Being a democracy there is not much we can do about it.
It would be interesting to know why they were so focused on him before and during his rant. Did he have a reputation on campus? Was he acting strange in the room prior to asking his question?
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09-18-2007, 08:37 PM
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Shoulda zapped him just for being a dumb ass. He resisted when the cops confronted him. They had right to zap him.
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09-18-2007, 09:11 PM
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Wave Jumper
Join Date: Jul 2003
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I agree, it didn't look or sound like he got tasered. I think they should hold him and taser him again and see how he reacts, then we can tell if he was really tasered or looking for more notoriety for his web site.
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Insanity is a long and winding road ... I think I finally made it there.
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09-19-2007, 06:44 AM
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lobster = striper bait
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I couldnt get to my camera in time to record his entrance but this guy basically comes running in with 4 or 5 cops in tow and says he has been running around trying to get in to ask a question and the cops are going to arrest him for it
From one of the witnesses.
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Ski Quicks Hole
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09-19-2007, 07:13 AM
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Night Stalker
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Wish he got alot more than tazed......jackass.
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