Palin - Be afraid?

[spence]

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/0..._n_123205.html

Watch the entire video, you decide.

-spence

[MAC]

I'll admit I didn't watch the whole vid. But then again I don't care. Religious views aren't being voted on. And we are voting for the President, not Vice President.

Maybe the MESSIAH will want to be sworn in on the Koran instead of a bible if he wins?? If we bring up HIS religion or parents we are labeled racists for picking on them. But bring a white woman on the ticket and it is a field day...... Everyone has a skeleton or 2 in their closet. Obama is no different I'd bet.

I hope McCain/ Palin knock em out of the water come Nov. 4th. I really am getting sick of looking and seeing Obamas picture EVERYWHERE

[likwid]

Palin painted the current war in Iraq as a messianic affair in which the United States could act out the will of the Lord.

riiiiiiight

kool aid anyone?

[spence]

Originally Posted by MAC

I'll admit I didn't watch the whole vid. But then again I don't care. Religious views aren't being voted on. And we are voting for the President, not Vice President.

Maybe the MESSIAH will want to be sworn in on the Koran instead of a bible if he wins?? If we bring up HIS religion or parents we are labeled racists for picking on them. But bring a white woman on the ticket and it is a field day...... Everyone has a skeleton or 2 in their closet. Obama is no different I'd bet.

I don't think Obama has ever said that he's the messiah, his detractors did, yet it's clear that Palin believes the war in Iraq is the United States of America following her GOD's word.

-spence

[MAC]

Originally Posted by spence

I don't think Obama has ever said that he's the messiah, his detractors did, yet it's clear that Palin believes the war in Iraq is the United States of America following her GOD's word.

-spence

Putting religion aside. Are you telling me you are for socialism ? Because that is what Obama wants to bring.

[Bronko]

My god moonbats are scary. You really don't want to compare religious views and associations between VP candidate Palin and Presiential candidate Barak Hussein Obama Reverend Wright do you?

I'll tell you what. At a minimum McCain has the left and the pajama-hadeen bloggers scrambling.

[likwid]

Originally Posted by Bronko

My god moonbats are scary. You really don't want to compare religious views and associations between VP candidate Palin and Presiential candidate Barak Hussein Obama Reverend Wright do you?

Hello, its September, Wright is long gone.

I'll tell you what. At a minimum McCain has the left and the pajama-hadeen bloggers scrambling.

NVA wore pajamas and look at what they did to the US military.

Gotta respect the pajamas.

[Slipknot]

Mac, time to get a few of these

http://www.goptrunk.com/SearchResults.asp?Cat=21

[MAC]

Originally Posted by Slipknot

Mac, time to get a few of these

http://www.goptrunk.com/SearchResults.asp?Cat=21

good idea. And maybe a couple of these http://www.democraticstuff.com/Obama...-p/ys23239.htm

That way when Obama loses ya can put one on the lawn and maybe the house won't get ransacked

[spence]

Funny, I bring up something I saw about Palin, and Palin alone...

And you can't bring yourselves to deal with the issue.

John McCain (the real John McCain) once remarked about evangelical conservatives as "agents of intolerance" and yet he's picked one to be his number two...

-spence

[Nebe]

I just watched her speach in that link Spence.. Yes i am afraid. Anyone who thinks that the war in Iraq is God's wishes and that we are acting on the word of god is a quack in my book. Unless of course, goverment contractors are the true God..


* Oh and what struck me as exceptionally wierd was the fact that the Chruch's drumset was behind a lexan barricade. Things must get pretty rowdy in alaska if a Church has to protect its drummer from flying beer bottles....

[EarnedStripes44]

Originally Posted by spence

I don't think Obama has ever said that he's the messiah, his detractors did...

-spence

The Karl Rove school of politics 2008 edition. Opponents press ideas of the "messiah Obama...descending from the heavens" professing to be savior of the american people and credit this to his campaign. This is an attempt to drive a wedge right in between evangelicals and widespread support for Obama. Now my recollection of the bible is a bit hazy but I vaguely recall that upon his arrival it will be the anti-christ who will claim to be christ. This undermines Obama's widespread appeal in the mind of the devout christian voter.

This is a bit of a stretch but a similar trangression in Islam would be the depiction/illustration of god in human form, its blasphemy. Obama fixtured amongst the likes of the holy is a trangression against the faith of practicing christians & evangelicals eventhough it is Sean Hannity who has christened him "the annointed one"

[Nebe]

Originally Posted by EarnedStripes44

Now my recollection of the bible is a bit hazy but I vaguely recall that upon his arrival it will be the anti-christ who will claim to be christ.

That would be 'dubya'

[RIJIMMY]

Originally Posted by Nebe

I just watched her speach in that link Spence.. Yes i am afraid. Anyone who thinks that the war in Iraq is God's wishes and that we are acting on the word of god is a quack in my book. Unless of course, goverment contractors are the true God..


* Oh and what struck me as exceptionally wierd was the fact that the Chruch's drumset was behind a lexan barricade. Things must get pretty rowdy in alaska if a Church has to protect its drummer from flying beer bottles....

Ok, first things first . the drums. the drums are behind the plexiglass for miking purposes. That way the sound of the drums does not bleed into the other instruments microphones.

Now, Palin, I listened and guess I missed the part that the war was a messianic quest. She said that you need to pray for the troops, that the troops are sent by their leaders to do the work of god. She didnt say it in some hate filled wacky religious way, she said in in the sense that our country is doing the right thing. Is that wrong? My little girl starts first grade today and will stand up and say "One nation, UNDER GOD, indivisible.....
so, isnt Palin just saying that. How many times as Barak spoke about god? What do people mean when the say bless our troops? Its really a HUGE strtch to paint her as a religious wacko, she was presenting to a CHURCH's graduating class.

My observation is that she was all over the place and not a very good speaker

[EarnedStripes44]

Originally Posted by MAC

Putting religion aside. Are you telling me you are for socialism ? Because that is what Obama wants to bring.

I want to answer this question NO, but I first I need you to define socialism for me if you would please. Are we talking socialism in all its facets or are we talking the VA Hospital system, social security or welfare?

[RIJIMMY]

That Eisenhower is a religious kook too, ......blessing of God, what a nut job!

Soldiers, Sailors and Airmen of the Allied Expeditionary Force!
You are about to embark upon the Great Crusade, toward which we have
striven these many months. The eyes of the world are upon you. The
hopes and prayers of liberty-loving people everywhere march with you.
In company with our brave Allies and brothers-in-arms on
other Fronts, you will bring about the destruction of the German war
machine, the elimination of Nazi tyranny over the oppressed peoples of
Europe, and security for ourselves in a free world.

Your task will not be an easy one. Your enemy is well trained, well
equipped and battle hardened. He will fight savagely.

But this is the year 1944! Much has happened since the Nazi triumphs of
1940-41. The United Nations have inflicted upon the Germans great defeats,
in open battle, man-to-man. Our air offensive has seriously reduced their
strength in the air and their capacity to wage war on the ground. Our Home
Fronts have given us an overwhelming superiority in weapons and munitions
of war, and placed at our disposal great reserves of trained fighting men.
The tide has turned! The free men of the world are marching together to
Victory!

I have full confidence in your courage and devotion to duty and skill in
battle. We will accept nothing less than full Victory!

Good luck! And let us beseech the blessing of Almighty God upon this great
and noble undertaking.


SIGNED: Dwight D. Eisenhower

[likwid]

Eisenhower is dead and there's no Nazis.

[Bronko]

There are commies.

[RIJIMMY]

Originally Posted by likwid

Eisenhower is dead and there's no Nazis.

However, throughout history, US leaders have invoked God in their speeches. Its in our pledge and on our currency. I am not religious but have no fear of religion, unless its followers try to impose their beliefs on me.

Fear of religion is a tactic used by the Democrats. Plain and simple.
Its never worked in the past and it wont work now.

[likwid]

Originally Posted by Bronko

There are commies.

Are you respecting the pajamas yet?

Originally Posted by RIJIMMY

However, throughout history, US leaders have invoked God in their speeches. Its in our pledge and on our currency. I am not religious but have no fear of religion, unless its followers try to impose their beliefs on me.

It worked great when the majority was god fearing and went to church every Sunday.

Fear of religion is a tactic used by the Democrats. Plain and simple.
Its never worked in the past and it wont work now.

I'm pretty sure a hot topic on the right is fear of muslim extremists, who just happen to be doing what they're doing in the name of religion.
Would you like to cite examples of the left using fear of religion?

[Nebe]

thanks for clearing up the drum thing Jim. That makes sense. However, her speech did not. Regardless of wether she said it was Gods will or not....Anyone who speaks the word of god with certainty makes no sense to me. Furthermore, anyone who SAYS that they speak the word of god while pushing any agenda other than one that is 100% religious is not to be trusted... especially in politics. End of story. When was the last time you had a beer with god and worked out a game plan?? what did he say? hey, go invade Iraq please.. i want you to tell everyone I said it was OK.... What a crock.

Lord help us

[EarnedStripes44]

Nebe,

Dubya is the sitting republican president right, why was he not at the Republican convention, its the most important event on his parties political event calendar and he's not even in the nosebleeds. He did not have to do hurricane duty this time around (not that he did it during the first "huge storm"). The rumor mill is saying he was disinvited by McCain after Rove's initial dissapproval of Palin as VP.

[Nebe]

I know. I must give props to Mccain for distancing himself from Bush..

[RIJIMMY]

Originally Posted by Nebe

thanks for clearing up the drum thing Jim. That makes sense. However, her speech did not. Regardless of wether she said it was Gods will or not....Anyone who speaks the word of god with certainty makes no sense to me. Furthermore, anyone who SAYS that they speak the word of god while pushing any agenda other than one that is 100% religious is not to be trusted... especially in politics. End of story. When was the last time you had a beer with god and worked out a game plan?? what did he say? hey, go invade Iraq please.. i want you to tell everyone I said it was OK.... What a crock.

Lord help us

You need to read the Declaration of Indepenence and the Constitution, also, hand over you $ to me, its all printed with the name God on it

[Nebe]

apples and oranges. God does not tell me how i should spend my money, nor when I spend it, Do I tell others that I am spending it under god's will... perhaps you should give me some of yours for some spiritual guidance

[RIJIMMY]

Your $ says "In God we Trust" which implies divine intervention in this countries direction. Listen to the Big O -
"No matter how religious they may or may not be," Obama said, "people are tired of seeing faith used as a tool of attack. They don't want faith used to belittle or to divide. They're tired of hearing folks deliver more screed than sermon."

[Nebe]

and I agree 110%

[buckman]

Why has the left made God out to be such a bad thing? Then they get their panties in a bunch when an American treats the Coran in a disrespectful way. I'm not very spiritual but I see no harm in being spiritual. To each his or her own. Are you saying Obama is only spiritual for political purposes? Do you believe him when he says he follows God?

[The Dad Fisherman]

God shouldn't even come into the equation...remember you need to Seperate Church from State

[Nebe]

Originally Posted by buckman

Why has the left made God out to be such a bad thing?

The left doesnt believe God is a bad thing at all...The issue is how the religious right has sort of taken hold of the GOP. Add the fact that Bush and now Palin have said publicly that the war in IRAQ is God's wishes and we might as well have the taliban in office..

Religion should be kept out of politics plain and simple..