US raid against Islamic State

[Pete F.]

There’s always a Trump tweet for any occasion
10/23/12
The military and Navy Seals should be given more credit for Bin Laden's death, not Obama, who works hard to take all the credit away from them.
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[Sea Dangles]

Keeping America safe makes it easy to believe we will see another term from our great president.
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[JohnR]

There are always those that call out a R prez that the language is too harsh and will just foster more violence.

Then some of those same gloss over that austere religious scholar.

Reason # 136 you have Trump

The #WaPoDeathNotice was hilarious https://twitter.com/search?q=%23WaPo...ypeahead_click

Originally Posted by Got Stripers

Trump as usual really doesn’t understand Isis or the Islamic terrorist mentality. Losing the leader is important, but it by no means ends their efforts. If fact Trump provided them a wonderful recruitment video that will no doubt be of great help as they move forward. A dog insult in their culture is a low blow and they will use Trumps description of his death to recruit the next generation. In typical Trump fashion, he claimed Isis uses the internet better than anyone except him of course, because he always has to be the best.
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This is a very bad take, Bob.

Originally Posted by wdmso

al qaeda survived bin laden death and morphed into to todays Isis .. the killing of both of them is a good thing .. but we tend to only kill them long after they killed so many. Until the idea is killed by a resonable standards of living in the middle east they will always be rebuilding in the shadows..

Iraqis are rioting in the streets in vast numbers its an incubator for extremists..

And Trumps granstanding and name calling .(yes he deserved to die a horrible death) and ive heard it before he's says it like it is,or hes not a politician or some just like the tough guy act.. for me it only diminishes the office of The Potus ...

And all my years in the service and correction ..

Those who have done the most been or been in the worst battles .. alway Say the least .. but the message was alway clear..
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I don't think standard of living is enough (nor will happen). Their religion, at least among the mainstream needs a reformation and their culture makes many of them incapable of pulling themselves forward.

Religion or culture, mox nix, doesn't matter.

[Sea Dangles]

Originally Posted by Got Stripers

Trump as usual really doesn’t understand Isis or the Islamic terrorist mentality. Losing the leader is important, but it by no means ends their efforts. If fact Trump provided them a wonderful recruitment video that will no doubt be of great help as they move forward. A dog insult in their culture is a low blow and they will use Trumps description of his death to recruit the next generation. In typical Trump fashion, he claimed Isis uses the internet better than anyone except him of course, because he always has to be the best.
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Perhaps a letter of apology would be more flakeworthy. If we use rubber bullets will they love us?
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[Got Stripers]

Originally Posted by JohnR

There are always those that call out a R prez that the language is too harsh and will just foster more violence.

Then some of those same gloss over that austere religious scholar.

Reason # 136 you have Trump

The #WaPoDeathNotice was hilarious https://twitter.com/search?q=%23WaPo...ypeahead_click




This is a very bad take, Bob.





I don't think standard of living is enough (nor will happen). Their religion, at least among the mainstream needs a reformation and their culture makes many of them incapable of pulling themselves forward.

Religion or culture, mox nix, doesn't matter.

Being in IT John and knowing these nuts use the internet almost exclusively for communication and recruitment, I’m surprised you wouldn’t see his comments as damaging. It feeds their hatred hearing their leaders death described that way and provides a great recruiting video for future use. No issue taking a victory lap with commendation for intelligence, military and allies, the comments about how he died are most likely fabricated and completely unnecessary. You of course are entitled to you opinion, I stand by mine.
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[Got Stripers]

Originally Posted by Sea Dangles

Perhaps a letter of apology would be more flakeworthy. If we use rubber bullets will they love us?
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You like Trump think small and don’t see this war is far from over and those comments are typical Trump grandstanding.
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[wdmso]

The president acknowledged that he had informed some Republicans in Congress, the Russians and the Turks But not the house Democrats

He also claimed that Baghdadi's death was "the biggest"

then Lied again stating "had pointed out that the Al-Qaeda leader "had to be killed before he knocked down the World Trade Center" but that "nobody" had heeded his warning." PS Mr Trump never made such a statement in his book..

called people who oppose him Human Scum his press secretary in response They deserve strong language like that.”


Every day Trumps sound more and more like a fascists than an American president.

and his supporter prefer Trump the Fascists over American President

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by Got Stripers

You like Trump think small and don’t see this war is far from over and those comments are typical Trump grandstanding.
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has anyone said the war is over?

what should trump have done, once we knew where this guy was? sent him a nice floral arrangement?
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[Pete F.]

How ill advised words get used, why you need to be careful of your speech as a leader and above reproach. There is an internet full of examples.

A ranking IRGC (Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps of Iran) commander said that Washington aims to play down the role of Resistance Axis in fighting terrorism in the region.

“ISIL has been defeated by regional nations and the Resistance Axis and Americans aim to question the role of Resistance in the fight against terrorism and say that ‘we are the one undermining ISIL and fighting terrorism’, but this is not the case,” Brigadier General Ismail Kowsari, Deputy Commander of IRGC’s Sarollah Base, told Mehr News Agency on Tuesday.

Despite creating an anti-ISIL UScoalition, Americans didn’t adopt any measure against terrorists and rather, backed these terror groups with all might and the support still continues, he added.

Trump has repeatedly admitted during his presidential election campaign that ISIL was founded by the United States, Kowsari said.

“ISIL was created by Americans and supported by them during the past years; so Americans were well aware of the terror leader’s hiding place,” he added.

“US leaders came to this conclusion that ISIL was of no use for them any longer,” he said adding that they are now mounting propaganda to claim that they are the ones fighting with terrorism.

He noted that al-Baghdadi’s story is very similar to the case of Bin-Laden al-Qaeda, saying US created both and then as soon as their expiration date arrived, made a media buzz and said that they have killed leaders of Takifiri terrorism.

Source: Mehr News Agency



Russia: Satellite Images Prove US Smuggling of Syrian Oil 
Russia, citing satellite imagery, says the United States has been smuggling Syrian oil to other countries under the protection of its troops before and after the defeat of the Daesh Takfiri terrorist group in the region.

Russian Defense Ministry spokesman Major General Igor Konashenkov said on Saturday that “the space intelligence images showed that oil was actively extracted and massively exported for processing outside Syria, under the reliable protection of US troops, before and after the defeat of the Daesh terrorists.”

Konashenkov stressed that the convoys were guarded by US private military companies and special operations forces.

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by Nebe

Actually. The pentagon rushed to get this done before the Trump’s move to pull out troops had been completed. In other words, trump almost botched this
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so ignore that we got the guy, and focus on what could have gone wrong.

what are you afraid would
happen, if you just admitted this isna good thing? the snowflakes went in and in about how
much better off the world
was after Biden got a ukrainian prosecutor fired, but you cannot concede this victory.

enjoy your denial fest.
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[scottw]

Originally Posted by Sea Dangles

flakeworthy


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[Pete F.]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

so ignore that we got the guy, and focus on what could have gone wrong.

what are you afraid would
happen, if you just admitted this isna good thing? the snowflakes went in and in about how
much better off the world
was after Biden got a ukrainian prosecutor fired, but you cannot concede this victory.

enjoy your denial fest.
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Just admit this is a good thing

Lt. Col. Alexander Vindman, the top NSC expert on Ukraine and first current White House official to testify in the impeachment inquiry, arrives on Capitol Hill.

[scottw]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Got Stripers View Post
Trump as usual really doesn’t understand Isis or the Islamic terrorist mentality. Losing the leader is important, but it by no means ends their efforts. If fact Trump provided them a wonderful recruitment video that will no doubt be of great help as they move forward. A dog insult in their culture is a low blow and they will use Trumps description of his death to recruit the next generation. In typical Trump fashion, he claimed Isis uses the internet better than anyone except him of course, because he always has to be the best.
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This is a very bad take, Bob.


he must have been watching THE VIEW because that was the identical take that those lunatics had

[scottw]

Originally Posted by Got Stripers

You like Trump think small

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based on trump's empire...I don't think you can accuse him of ever thinking small

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by Sea Dangles

Perhaps a letter of apology would be more flakeworthy. If we use rubber bullets will they love us?
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perhaps.
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[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by Pete F.

Just admit this is a good thing

Lt. Col. Alexander Vindman, the top NSC expert on Ukraine and first current White House official to testify in the impeachment inquiry, arrives on Capitol Hill.

so celebrating a questionable impeachment, is the same as celebrating the killing of the head of ISIS.

i think it’s a good thing. but not for the same reasons you do. i think it’s likely that getting impeached by the squad, will help trump. it may destroy him, but it may help him. it’s a political gamble the democrats are taking.
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[Pete F.]

Keep believing in the reality TV star

[Pete F.]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

so celebrating a questionable impeachment, is the same as celebrating the killing of the head of ISIS.

i think it’s a good thing. but not for the same reasons you do. i think it’s likely that getting impeached by the squad, will help trump. it may destroy him, but it may help him. it’s a political gamble the democrats are taking.
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Better than the gamble of letting the Con man stay in office.

The Jurors are realizing what they will lose if he stays.

[PaulS]

Contrasting Trump talking about the raid vs Bush and Obama was very telling. What an unintelligent, vile man we have as Pres. Sad

[scottw]

Originally Posted by PaulS

What an unintelligent, vile man we have as Pres. Sad

let it all out buddy

[PaulS]

Originally Posted by scottw

let it all out buddy

I did get a chuckle when Pres. Trump said something like "....canine as they call it… I call it a dog"

[Pete F.]

Originally Posted by scottw

let it all out buddy

Faux News: “We should honor Tulsi Gabbard for her service. Her loyalty to this country can’t be questioned.”

Also Faux News: “Let’s disregard Lt. Col. Alexander Vindman’s service and insinuate he’s a spy.”

[PaulS]

Originally Posted by Pete F.

Also Faux News: “Let’s disregard Lt. Col. Alexander Vindman’s service and insinuate he’s a spy.”

disgusting. Where is the bottom?

[JohnR]

Originally Posted by Got Stripers

Being in IT John and knowing these nuts use the internet almost exclusively for communication and recruitment, I’m surprised you wouldn’t see his comments as damaging. It feeds their hatred hearing their leaders death described that way and provides a great recruiting video for future use. No issue taking a victory lap with commendation for intelligence, military and allies, the comments about how he died are most likely fabricated and completely unnecessary. You of course are entitled to you opinion, I stand by mine.
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And I would never squash your opinion ; )

I don't like half of Trumps speeches, sentences, bad theories, and insults.

I think the bad take (also heard when Bush was Pres) was about feeding into their Promotional / Social Media mastery. Being "nice" to these people (the bad ones) is not going to work and has not worked.

I have difficulty taking seriously the wisdom, reporting, and opinions of the like that call Baghdadi an austere religious scholar (WaPo - not you, Bob).

[Sea Dangles]

Originally Posted by Got Stripers

You like Trump think small and don’t see this war is far from over and those comments are typical Trump grandstanding.
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You think if we say nice things about them then they will be nice to us. This war will never be over no matter how we treat them.
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[scottw]

Originally Posted by Pete F.

Faux News: “We should honor Tulsi Gabbard for her service. Her loyalty to this country can’t be questioned.”

Also Faux News: “Let’s disregard Lt. Col. Alexander Vindman’s service and insinuate he’s a spy.”

Cuz tulsi looks better in a bikini on a surfboard......duh??
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[The Dad Fisherman]

Originally Posted by Sea Dangles

You think if we say nice things about them then they will be nice to us. This war will never be over no matter how we treat them.
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Bingo
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[Pete F.]

It's not about being nice.
It's about making sure that we do not furnish them the ammunition they use to recruit disciples and further their cause, while keeping the pressure on.
It requires restraint, planning and keeping the endgoal in mind, none of which Trump seems to be capable of.
Belichick, Brady and the Patriots are a good example of how this works, our military and diplomatic corp use the same methods and have quite successfully.

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by Pete F.

It's not about being nice.
It's about making sure that we do not furnish them the ammunition they use to recruit disciples and further their cause, while keeping the pressure on.
It requires restraint, planning and keeping the endgoal in mind, none of which Trump seems to be capable of.
Belichick, Brady and the Patriots are a good example of how this works, our military and diplomatic corp use the same methods and have quite successfully.

bullsh*t.

the fact that we let girls
go to school, drive, and not force them to dress like ninjas, is enough to make them want to kill us all. the fact that i choose not to wear a beard is enough to make them
want to kill us all. appeasement isn’t a viable option here, nor should we aspire to it.

can you libs get one right, even by accident, once in a while?
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[JohnR]

Originally Posted by Pete F.

It's not about being nice.
It's about making sure that we do not furnish them the ammunition they use to recruit disciples and further their cause, while keeping the pressure on.

Pete, this did not happen in a vacuum, overnight. What was the cause 20-30 years ago? 100 years ago? 500?

Originally Posted by Pete F.

It requires restraint, planning and keeping the endgoal in mind, none of which Trump seems to be capable of.

Originally Posted by Pete F.

Belichick, Brady and the Patriots are a good example of how this works, our military and diplomatic corp use the same methods and have quite successfully.

Has not been applied for decades and the results show.